ranger builds for DoA

ok... you have a point there Sir Mad... but you have to agree with me that for those people who don't want to spend 6 hours in a row doing the quest that is good enough for the other two parts of the quest... Stygian Veil and Foundry...

i for one wouldn't mind at all going with a B/P party and do those two "maps" and return to the Gate and think of another strategy for the other two parts...


don't you think its doable?

I really don't know. I remember I tried with a B/P build the day DoA was implanted, and we failed because rangers can't tank the foes there. Maybe a modified version of the build would do the job (something like a tank - warrior or even an ele - backed up by a bonder instead of an order, a healer, MM, and 4 barragers - that's just a thought, I've never tried).

But yeah, the 6 hours to do the quest are just... too much, and I've never tried hard to do the quests mainly for this reason (well, also because it's hard to find a decent team there and so far my alliance never set up a team for it), so I'm probably not the best person to talk about DoA.

me neither


my alliance is all PvP... and the ones that aren't.... i could only find one DoAnian...monk...


add me... perhaps someday we can get together and shake the foundations of the OF builds

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^ CG/Winter is also good for soloing stuff. With Mantra of Frost, it's not only 39% damage reduction, it's also +30AL for rangers (for those who have forgotten: the damage taken is divided by 2 every 40AL). So it also greatly increases the armor of the rangers in the team, but it also decrease the armor of most of the warriors vs physical damage (80 instead of 100 plus the shield eventually).

All you need as a ranger in DoA is:

All spirits available - You never know which ones your group might need, elite or otherwise. Mostly you'll be needing Symbiosis, EoE, Famine, QZ and maybe EW though.
Serpents Quickness - You WILL need this if you intend to ever keep QZ up constantly which would be your job.
Barbed Trap
Dust Trap
Flame Trap
Spike Trap
Vipers Nest (maybe)
Echo (Echo Dust Trap trapping is nice)
Rebirth
Signet of Return
Cautery Signet

Barrage has, for want of a better word, had the shit kicked out it for DoA. Stygian melee can hit for 450 in 1 hit and you take -50 if you dodge/block/evade. Stygian Fiends hit for 100-200 using Cripshot and Choking Gas. Flesh Tormentors ALL have Shields Up and Protectors Defence. Titans just couldn't be controlled. Margonites have extremely powerful healing and high damage. Even without the environment effects your stuffed before you begin really.

You really wont be needing Choking Gas. In general you want as little interaction with the enemies as possible until the eles can get a Meteor Shower onto there healer (Anur Ki's) or till they just generally need to move in and kill stuff. LB Gaze is powerful enough if you need to just run in, cast and run off (90ish damage to casters w/ Lvl7 Lightbringer).

I've heard the GC/Winter/MoF method is a little bit nooby now. If you think it through... it really doesn't help. It implies your entire team is gonna be getting hit which is still not a good thing. You want agro to be focused on only 1 person, your tank. If its not, only prot spirit will save you. Been hit for almost 300 damage from Searing Flames before, as a ranger thats not assuring.

Build i ran for Foundry - A spirit spammer w/ Famine as elite (were using AV/SV on an OF tank w/ 2 SF eles as assist). Sadly i lagged out at the 3rd prisoner...

Build i ran for City - Same as above really.

Gloom - This was a weird 1, QZ/EoE/SQ w/ Cautery Signet to help keep the monk tank clean of dazed. Also ran QZ/EoE/Lacerate/Brambles/Symb with an OF tank... just didn't work for us, the agro would constantly mess up and get us killed at the quest.

Stygian - Think this 1s entirely possible trapping. Unless i misunderstood, you can do pretty much everything that place has to offer with a 2 man trapper team, although not sure on the Mallyx quest. A trapper team definatly works here though so your general Echo trap build or R/Mo rebirth trap build works fine. DO NOT ENTER HERE WITHOUT A SPEED BOOST, Evasive stance isn't necessary. 1 enemy uses Harrier Haste, 1 uses Bulls Charge, they are extremely hard to make break agro if you dont have a speed boost and they will catch upto you.

As for Mallyx... *shrugs* Probably nothing more technical than the above.

As far as spirit spamming equipment goes. You need a +4 Beast Mastery mask, a +4 Wilderness Survival mask and an optional +3 Expertise piece of armour. Spirits last ages, lets face it. Only QZ = 47 and Famine = 94 that are likely to be needed with lower recharges. Having an available +4 BM/WS mask switch is extremely useful at getting that bit extra out of Symbiosis and EoE. A 47s QZ is only needed till you get it up and running. Once its active when you recast it, it recharges itself in 30 seconds, even at 12 WS you can keep it up constantly at this point. Any generally higher energy weapon will do, you usually have a BiP around to keep you tanked up if you need to spam QZ + others often.

As far as trapping is concerned. You MUST having a +4 Wilderness Survival mask. I don't give a toss if you don't like Superior runes because of the health loss. Traps are the only firepower you have, if they don't die from them that 75 extra health wont mean shit. I always go trapping with a +4WS mask and +3 Exp boots. Only 1 person needs to lure, so if thats not you you should never really be in danger anyway if your paying attention. You also need a staff. Insight w/ a +5e^50 (Hale and Hearty) inscription is advisable. A max of 53 energy (57 if you use 2 Attunements) is great for trapping when you don't have a BiP (like the 2-4man trips). A self heal in Stygian isn't much use. Enemies do too much for it to matter and any degen is insanely high and stacked so would do nothing to counter it. Personally, EW shouldn't last longer than 54s, better still, no longer than QZ, vipers nest has little use... things rarely degen to death and in the Stygians case, are, except Golems, all immune to bleeding/poison.

Important things to remember are.... watch your radar!!! If you agro too early by accident or are too greedy to wait to grab some crappy item you might screw the entire team over. Mobs also popup/spawn from nowhere. Keep your eye on the radar after mobs have died as you never know what might happen. If things do start to go wrong... don't lure everything back to your allies. If you have no speed boost, take 1 for the team and lure them away before you die, not to everyone.

Most importantly of all, NEVER take quests without asking people who may know better than you first. I'm sure alot of you remember Unwanted Guests in UW and the consequences of taking it.

But really, have fun and enjoy gaining LB points, getting good items and hoarding gems. DoA isn't as random as the agro can be on occasions. Much of it is very methodical. If your not prepared to keep spamming spirits for hours or retreat when asked during a trapper trip prior to luring... this isn't the place for you.

^ Nice explaination. Do you think solo echo (and eventually arcane echo) trapping in Stygian is doable? I guess the damage would be enough since you can nuke an aatxe with this build but can you manage the aggro?

Definatly not possible. The Aatxe have probably less health than the enemies here and in comparison are alot less deadly than them too. Stygian Brutes/Horrors hit hard and are immune to bleeding/poison so degen would go nowhere towards killing them. Golems are extremely quick and have Chilling Victory... which hits for about 120 regardless of whether there physical attack hits you. Fiends are ranged w/ Choking Gas so even doing ~10 a hit if they keep missing would eventually kill you.

Plus the quest itself spawns 3x mobs of 6, each mob always sticks together. You'd never make it past the first wave. 18 Stygian Hungers, all with Dark Aura, Vampiric Touch, Vampiric Bite, Wallows Bite and Grenths Balance. Even with 3 trappers if they survive they can take ages to kill alone. The Torment mobs are usually both melee and casters, some including rangers. Too much variety in them to kill.

Oh, and Stygian enemies seem to be able to ignore the laws of probability. The number of times i've been hit through blind while casting dust trap on a lone survivor is too many to count.

But don't Echo trappers use dust trap..? Like, 12 of them? I guess two trappers would do, so who cares.

Been using this since before nightfall, but apparently it is used in DoA
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/User:Coloneh/Eskimos

i would think the best way is not u to use so many spirts i try to stay away form spirts in a trapper build for the most part there is a couple of good traps but ew and qz i stay far away from good one are winnowinf and aoe and such i like to use other means for laying traps down faster i use a ranger monk like its god lol (even though its not) i just like my ranger monk he has over 8 million exp in the past 20months i do uw alot and now wanting to get more into doa main reason not money but a certain mini pet found ina coffin of whispers mallix or whatever it is

i do 4 traps along 16 wilderness and 15 exp with that it lowers you cost of traps to 2 to 8 energy each and with having 50 energy its hard to run ou of energy long with serphants q it makes time to lay better yeah it is good sometimes to have one trapper for doa with qz and one with ew but it not a need 7 trappers witha mnk for back up emgercys but other then tht i feel trappers are a good way to take out larg groups of pull able enemys