Cryptic Clue to New profession for CH4?

Kelsey Cain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

I noticed an anomily with one of the things that Niwah, the boy running around Kamadan 'wants' as a present. All the other items he wants make reference to current in-game items, with the exception of the following:

"And I also want a Junior Alchemists Fire Oil brewing kit! I won't blow anything up, I promise!"

A clue to a future profession perhaps?

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Umm no. It's just a silly thing little kids say.

"I want a chemist's set to blow things up!"

MegaMouse

MegaMouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

south mississippi

Warriors Of Melos WOM

E/N

Sounds promising to me.

Mega Mouse

wingzro

wingzro

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Canada

Ralphie "No! No! I want an Official Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot Range Model"
Santa: "You'll shoot your eye out, kid."

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelsey Cain
"And I also want a Junior Alchemists Fire Oil brewing kit! I won't blow anything up, I promise!"

A clue to a future profession perhaps?
Fire Oil is used in the tutorial during the first mission to blow up ships, if I remember correctly.

atkafighter

atkafighter

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Well it could be...
There are Ritualists in Prophecies (White Mantle) so there is a possibility that there are some hints in Elona.
Personally I hope its toymaker

Teger

Teger

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

LLJK

A/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by atkafighter
Well it could be...
There are Ritualists in Prophecies (White Mantle) so there is a possibility that there are some hints in Elona.
Personally I hope its toymaker
that just reminds of the penguin in those batman shows I watched when I was a little kid....Dosent anyone remember the fat dude with the killer umbrella? :P Would be awesome...but im betting its going to be some sort of ranged high damage class, and probably a "alternitive to the necro" like the rit was supposed to be to the monk.

Meo Yeong

Meo Yeong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Canada Eh!

Test

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by wingzro
Ralphie "No! No! I want an Official Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot Range Model"
Santa: "You'll shoot your eye out, kid."
No No its


Official Red Ranger triple shot longbow.

:P

Anyways thats what kidd wants in lions arch

Alisse tells him he will shoot his eye out too lol

Lyphen

Lyphen

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by wingzro
Ralphie "No! No! I want an Official Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot Range Model"
Santa: "You'll shoot your eye out, kid."
Cowboy in the next chapter!

Kai Nui

Kai Nui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Behind you with a knife

Celebrity Gangsters [FamE]

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Alchemist sounds like a possible Guild Wars profession, sure why not.

King's Spectre

King's Spectre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Syracuse, NY, USA

The Amazon Basin (AB)

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I think it was the 50's-70's that little kids wanted chemisty sets for christmas. They were pretty notorious for going *bang* and making bad smells..

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

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Is that the same boy who says random things...one of which is he likes to set things on fire? During the NF preview event there was a boy who said creepy things about fire. I forget his name.
If it is that boy....don't give him any presents! He is pure evil.

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

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The next proffesion is obviusly a child, seent the hints for some time now.....

ericdanie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

Tribo dos Reis [TdR]

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I believe Alchemist may be a C4 profession. There have not been a lot of potions in the game so far. And I believe it may be possible to see a Support profession called Alchemist with Defensive Potions and Offensive Potions. Throw 'em at the opponent, like Ragnarok Online's Alchemist.

Just something to dream, as we aren't getting C4 confirmated info until next year.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Count to Potato
The next proffesion is obviusly a child, seent the hints for some time now.....
It will be both! I saw a cartoon once about a boy who was an alchemist. He had a metal body. So it must be that!

Teger

Teger

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

LLJK

A/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ericdanie
I believe Alchemist may be a C4 profession. There have not been a lot of potions in the game so far. And I believe it may be possible to see a Support profession called Alchemist with Defensive Potions and Offensive Potions. Throw 'em at the opponent, like Ragnarok Online's Alchemist.

Just something to dream, as we aren't getting C4 confirmated info until next year.
if they make a class like that...im betting its going to be like the paragon, ie; they do stuff like "coat all nearby party members in a toxic solution. On their next hit, they cause poison for 10-20 seconds", or something like that, but they will probably end up with some weapon that you wouldnt expect, I mean, after all, a class whos intended main role in a party was to make shouts, I would have expected them to have a megaphone or something

Whiplashr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kelsey Cain
I noticed an anomily with one of the things that Niwah, the boy running around Kamadan 'wants' as a present. All the other items he wants make reference to current in-game items, with the exception of the following:

"And I also want a Junior Alchemists Fire Oil brewing kit! I won't blow anything up, I promise!"

A clue to a future profession perhaps?
Goblin Sapper!!!

wetsparks

wetsparks

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2006

Well, believe it or not, Nightfall has been out for 2 months now, so in 2 more months we should be getting some info about chapter 4.

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

It makes sense they would give clues about professions in Wintersday, Gaile said Ch4 will be announced soon.


So either the devs are just fooling us...or this is a major find....

Rok

Rok

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Guild Wars

I wouldn't say it was cryptic...but it could be a clue.

And in regards to the cartoon with the kid in the armor. The show is called Full Metal Alchemist ... It plays on Cartoon Network's Adult Swim sometimes. And the boy in the armor didn't do much alchemy it was mostly his brother.

In the cartoon they used alchemic symbols to produce the effect they wanted. So his weapon would have to be a big pencil, or crayon...good way to raise some money - product placement - contact Crayola.

Feathermoore Rep

Feathermoore Rep

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Feathermoore Clan

R/Mo

They both did alchemy. And FMA is a sweet anime (japanese cartoon) and i reccommend it to every one.

But an alchemy, in general, is a mix of science and philsophy and has to do with the transformation of physical and chemical states of objects. AKA the story everyone has heard about alchemist changing lead into gold.

But personally, while it sounds like a sweet profession, im not sure how it would work. The only thing i could see them doing is what ranger spirits do. ie change the nature of damage and such.

And for those who've seen FMA, alchemists have the ability to transform stone, rock, water into different shapes. So like making a giant wall from the dirt around them or make a wave of water from the water from a lake. AKA they can only transform things around. They cant make something from nothing. To use a quote from FMA "Humankind cannot gain anything without first giving something in return. To obtain, something of equal value must be lost. That is Alchemy's First Law of Equivalent Exchange. In those days, we really believed that to be the world's one, and only, truth."

So maybe ther could be like a cross between a necro and an ele, but im not sure how it would work still.

natuxatu

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

I hope so I've been begging for an Alchemist profession

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

I don't see anything that alchemy has anything to do with philosophy. It has more in common with modern day chemistry than anything else.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
I don't see anything that alchemy has anything to do with philosophy. It has more in common with modern day chemistry than anything else.
Actually, it has more to do with modern day magicians than chemistry. Historical Alchemy was all about fooling the upper class and the masses that it was possible to transform various elements into gold, or producing an elixir of long life.

They would often perform these 'transformations' in front of an audience, putting on a show with mixtures that caused flashes of light, etc. In reality, they would simply show a lump of lead, and after the light show, reveal a hidden lump of gold.

The only thing really good that came from Alchemy was the scientific process. There was only a handful of alchemists that were really trying to transmute, and with research, they came up with a process of testing what worked and what didn't.

Anyway, enough of that, an oldschool fantasy-style Alchemist would rock. Something between an explosives/trap/potion maker, and weilder of mild forms of elemental magic. I'm all there!

Ms Utena Tenjou

Ms Utena Tenjou

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Manchester,NH Or Boston Ma

Medieval Knights Refuge [Heal]

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go FMA.... and the croud cheers.. " scarcastic yay"... Maybe some sort of teleporter... or something to do with snow... i believe the last chapter is going to be more artic.. so lets think cold .... what about a teleporter....?

Feathermoore Rep

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It is a philosophy in the fact that alchemists believed that the world worked according to the principles of alchemy. Ergo it was a mixture of philosophy and science.

But as i think about, maybe a alchemist profession isn't so far off. I'm just not sure of exactly how it would fit into the present gw class and enviroment system.

Kijik Oni Hanryuu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

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[acid]members of the KAWS alliance

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Redfeather1975
Is that the same boy who says random things...one of which is he likes to set things on fire? During the NF preview event there was a boy who said creepy things about fire. I forget his name.
If it is that boy....don't give him any presents! He is pure evil.
*shivers*.....Gwen....

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feathermoore Rep
It is a philosophy in the fact that alchemists believed that the world worked according to the principles of alchemy. Ergo it was a mixture of philosophy and science.
Lets ignore the fact that the princibles they believed the world worked on is the basis of chemistry and physics as we know today with a different word structure.

floppinghog

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

A/Me

a profession like that could bring into environment changes in the area, like icy ground, and what not too. it does sound cool, but thats only one of the 2 professions we will be getting. what could go with that?

FoxBat

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Amazon Basin [AB]

Mo/Me

FMA is quite a DBZ-like expansion on the original idea of alchemy, I wouldn't take it as an "inspiration" for GW. Hopefully there would be some kind of item/flask bound mechanics instead of the virtual magic FMA performs.

Priest Of Sin

Priest Of Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne.

Live For The Swarm [ZERG]

Me/N

Alternative to the necro? What alternative? Necromancers are masters of AoE curse, Minions, and Life Stealing. What else is there?

ShaneOfMach

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Wouldn't it be cool if an Alchemist was a melee profession, allowing him to transmute his weapon to make it stronger?

Yes i do love FMA =(

visitor

visitor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Kronos HQ

W/

there was a post about a hint like this

in prophecies there was white mantle ritualist- factions char rit
in nightfall there was a corsair bersereker -?

alchemistsan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxBat
FMA is quite a DBZ-like expansion on the original idea of alchemy, I wouldn't take it as an "inspiration" for GW.
You are quite wrong here, DBZ didn't have very complex story & plot line and their fighting more like template show. The one who can squeeze out highest power wins.
While FMA is more to story and its plots and their fight style prone to find people weakness instead of squeezing power juice. Ok back to topic now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxBat
Hopefully there would be some kind of item/flask bound mechanics instead of the virtual magic FMA performs.
QFT. But I have confidence in A-Net of creating a new classes. Like Paragon is created due to a lot ppl like have a support class that is a Bard. It is not 100% Bard class but it come close.

m0rgaine

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by visitor
in prophecies there was white mantle ritualist- factions char rit
in nightfall there was a corsair bersereker -?
omg maybe this is really a hint, very interesting..

In Norse mythology, Berserkers (or Berserks) were warriors who fought naked, in an uncontrollable rage or trance of fury, the berserkergang.

The Úlfhéðnar (singular Úlfhéðinn) mentioned in the Vatnsdœla saga, Haraldskvæði and the Völsunga saga were said to wear the pelt of a wolf upon their heads when they entered battle.

A class from the north .. oh I wish it would be the charrlands

Aegeroth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sydney, AUS.

Sons of Dark Magicians [SoDM]

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Feathermoore
I'm just not sure of exactly how it would fit into the present gw class and enviroment system.
Nor do I,

Alchemists are about "flashy light shows" and "trasmuting". But neither of these play a major role in Guild Wars, Transmuting most of all, i mean, you could be an on hand merchant of can transmute to gold, but at a lesser payout than a common merchant, so why wouldnt you just use the merchant for more money?
And if it could obtain more gold than the merchant, merchant's "sell" feature becomes rather redundant when an alchemist with 16 Trasmute skill would just get payed to do it for you.

And flashy light shows? So what? We've got Blinding Light, and thats a very basic skill.

But, if you find a way to add it in, i'd glady like to know.

Also, I hope ANet never introduces Consumable Potions.

Kelsey Cain

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

In most other fantasy games Alchemists tend to create and use potions and I would therefore expect that would be the aspect that would be used.

The Alchemist could use 'skills' as apposed to 'consumable potions' as the means of delivery - As a general support character you could have attributes for each of the potion types;

Fire
Poison/disease
Healing

No one seems too concerned about the fact that arrows magically appear when a ranger uses a bow, so I don't see any real problem with implementing the idea of potions being magically created on demand - they could be ranged (thrown - for AOE and degen) or touch (imbued) for healing.

On a seperate note I also notice that Dhumm (Emissary of) appeared in this chapter, introducing a new god. Have there been previous references to this in other chapters that I have missed, or could this also be a clue to the theme for an upcoming chapter?

Clord

Clord

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Finland

Victory Via Valour

Alchemist with ability to create temporal potions for weapon slots or off-hand slot. Those potions then disappear after zoning etc.

Feathermoore Rep

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R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aegeroth
Also, I hope ANet never introduces Consumable Potions.
I second that notion. Consumable potions and GW do not mix IMO. It just goes against the currrent battle system completely.

The only thing i can see is if there were more environment effects they could alter those, but thats not enough for an entire profession.

And as for the Beserker Idea...is there really a different between them and warriors?