Drop rate of rubies and saphires

Kushiels_Scion

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ohio

Dragon Warrriors

W/P

I did not see any similar post so heres mine. Has people realized rubies and saphires can drop ANYWHERE and EVERYWHERE and that there is no real place to farm for them cause the drop rate is the same? Why then are they worth less than ecto? Perhaps cause that can be aquired with trade contracts but i ask again the drop rate so low the only people that can afford the vaabian armor are those that farm and sell things at riddiculously high prices.

To get those armor some people have to go broke many times over, not to mention FoW armor being so expensive i hold out no hope that i could ever afford that.

Drop rate of rubies, saphires, and diamonds needs to increase in my opinion and so to ecto because nowadays i go to the underworld the drops i get are crap 0-1 a run which is just ... sucks should be worth more than 9k if i can get only that many drops a run. ANyways im done ranting.. Ohh and so no one willl complain of paragraphs i'll seperate this mess.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

W/

Well, Trade Contacts, considering if you do all the quests gets you like 23-25 contacts. That's 3 Rubies/Sapphires whatever you choose. The more characters you have, the more you get. Same thing with the Treasure Chests Anet introduced. The drop rate in the Vabbi area seems to be fairly high for them to plop out. They can also be salvaged from Jeweled and Ruby daggers and Ruby Mauls. So no I don't really think the drop rate needs to be increased, we do need some ways to make money.

If you don't have time to make a character or to get one through, it'll just take you longer then. That's just the way the ball rolls. I don't have a lot of them and I rarely get them from drops at all. But I'm content with it cause I have quite a few characters and well I'm patient enough to wait till I finish what I need to so I don't have to spend a large amount of money on Vabbi armor.

At the same time, I might change my mind and want to sell them instead, and I much rather sell them for the price they are at now.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

In my 16 odd months playing I had a grand total of 2 gem drops 1 was a Sapphire dropped by a shadow warrior in FoW and the other was a Ruby dropped from a Stone Elemental not far from the gates of Ascalon.

floppinghog

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

A/Me

if you beat nightfall 10+ times and did all quests, id'd all items before selling, sold the hot mods, sold the endgame stuff (like book of secrets), got all treasures, got masters on all missions on each run or so, you would no doubt make 1 million gold for sure, thats not including side projects, playing the market(buying hot stuff low, and selling higher if your bored)

keep that up and u can have anything you want...... dont complain, i intend to do all this myself this coming year.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Some people with FoW armor prob had 1 lucky drop...chaos axe req8 15^50 went for 1mill+ back in the golden days..anyone can get lucky in halls and get a decent drop from the chest

heist23

Journeyman

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/Mo

luck....yeah, let's not deal with luck.

i've never had a gem drop for me, ever. i've bought and used contracts for all 6 rubies and sapphires required for my mesmer's vabbian robes. and now i'm flat broke!

it would be nice if they dropped more often, but i don't really know much about the drop rates since i stick to heroes and henchmen when i play.

to the OP: gems aren't worth as much as ecto because they're not in as high demand.

germanturkey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

[PoW]

E/

heh.. the "golden days" were good times... remember before that stupid AOE patch? (i'm trying to remember what we called that... ***-stick.. gah! can't remember it..) 55 monk, meteor shower... fun fun fun..

anyways, so these can drop anywhere at any time post sear? man, gotta get moving again...

back in the day where crystalines sold for millions upon millions...

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

In my 20 months accumulated on my account, I have only had 1 gem drop. I got a Ruby from a Mantid on the quest that takes you to Seitung Harbor from Shing Jea Monastery.

FalconDance

FalconDance

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

...deep within the sylvan splendor...

Order of the Migrating Coconuts [ALBA]

Over a year & all three chapters = 2 gem drops, both diamonds, last week with the new treasure chests.

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

I recently expert salvaged a Ruby from something called a Geode. I was stoked.

I seem to get more black and white dye drops than rubies, diamonds, or saphires.

Mad King Corn

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2006

Rubies, saphires and diamonds are so rare, in all the time I have been playing GW I have never got a single one and I have a lot of hours invested in this game.

leprekan

leprekan

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Posers and Wannabes [nubs]

W/E

Havent 55d it since aoe "fix" but ... altrumm ruins explorable. About a 40 minute run and almost always a saph would drop.

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

about 1000 hours now and never had one drop - I do not PvP and rarely go AFK (and never for more than an hour).

I created a Dervish at release. All characters have to fund their own ascended armor. I have vabbian head, chest, arms, and feet (I prefer the primeval legs). Very little farming and no selling stuff to other players (I hate doing that - boring as crap). I pick up everything, ID everything (it increases the value of whites by quite a bit) and used what trade contracts I got. I have about 30k on my dervish right now too. I haven't been a spendthrift either - my heroes and two other characters with pieces of Nightfall 15k armor can attest to that.

Not anywhere close to FoW armor, but vabbian is quite within reach.

saphir

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

doa

Mo/

playing about 19 months now?
nothing to do really most of the time, so i used to pug monk for uw/fow a lot. have had maybe a total of 40 sapphire/rubies drop for me in that time. sapphires drop primarily in uw, rubies in fow in the old days.

also have had maybe 18 black dye drops.. just had my first white dye drop the other week. i don't farm.

so yeah, i think if you play exclusively high end areas you'd be likely to see more high end drops

mage767

mage767

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2006

USA

LOVE

Me/E

Played 6 months
Dropped 6 gems, 3 of which are ruby, 3 sapphire. Also 1 diamond from treasure chest. Except the diamond, everything in factions (Kurzick).

Got roughly 600k in gold and about another 400k in rare greens on 5 characters.

All characters enjoy 15k armors, only one enjoys Vabbian armor (when sapphires and rubies were priced at 4k-4.6k each).

Never got a gem from expert salvage of jinn essenses, gem weapons or anything else.

Get white and black dyes quite frequently.

Played game for 1500 hrs.

Redfeather1975

Redfeather1975

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2006

Apartment#306

Rhedd Asylum

Me/

I've only been playing since August, and have gotten 2 gems dropped. I had no idea they were worth so much. I sold them to a merchant because I thought at the time they were just vendor trash.
Silly me!
/me faints

xuemin

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

E/Mo

i'm either just lucky or the drop rate has already been increased, i got a sapphire from the second mob in FoW on my monk last night, and not long ago i got 3 rubies in another short FoW run and a guildie got 1-2.

i've been playing for about 19 months, and currently my gem count is around 5-6 rubies, 5-6 sapphires, 1 diamond (from a chest).

they were mainly found in FoW, though one sapphire i managed to salvage from some daggers.

Bale_Shadowscar

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

This thread can be summarised as:

Dear ANet. Please make drops more frequent and loot more rewarding, so that farming is much easier and I can get a lot more money. Cheers.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

I cant say I agree that drop rates need to increase.

Compare factions luxon or kuzack 15k armor to the 5k/10k armor in Nightfall.

They both require materials that have a rare drop rate. This means you ultimately have to purchase those materials from the rare materials trader.

5k and 10k is no different and if anything, it should technically be cheaper, because the armor doesnt cost 15k.

Neither armors are impossible, or hard to purcashe. Your only talking about needing around 15-20k more to purchase the rare materials.

But so what if buying armor bankrupts you because you have to purchase materials for it?

Armor is the primary/one of the primary purchases you make in the game. Its the thing your going to spend all your gold on.

Im not really seeing the issue since you can purcashe all materials you ever need from traders. And your complaining that saphires and rubbies arent as expensive as ecto?

Isnt that a good thing if you need them for armor?


As for FOW armor. It needs to be stupidly expensive, or everyone would have FOW sets. We need one set of armor which is stupidly hard to purchase and takes ages to save for.

Otherwise why have elite armor?

mlandry

mlandry

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Me

while playing through NF I found 2 rubies from drops, + there are several chests (buried treasures, etc) that have a good chance of dropping gems; include the trade contracts, and you'll realize that the gems aren't that hard to come by

Orinn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Defiant Dragons

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bale_Shadowscar
This thread can be summarised as:

Dear ANet. Please make drops more frequent and loot more rewarding, so that farming is much easier and I can get a lot more money. Cheers.
Dear ANet: are you certain that the drop rate for rubies and sapphires is what it should be? I seem to get a lot less of this "rare material" than others. (remember that clearing some areas gives 3-4 ectos, and people are reporting getting 1-2 sapphire/ruby over MONTHS or YEARS playing the game. Compare to the rare materials like silk or fur squares, that drop like mad in some areas.)

In other words, are rubies and sapphires SUPPOSED to be more rare than ectos? More rare than obsidian shards? If so, fine, but there's no need to belittle someone asking about drop rates and trying to figure out WHY they drop so low. Are the Vabbian armors supposed to only be available through buying materials, because there is no other good way to acquire rubies and sapphires other than through trading or buying? Farming them is out, unlike ectos. The Vabbi quests don't give enough contracts for a single set of vabbian armor. It's a fair enough question.

Tetris L

Tetris L

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Servants of Fortuna

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kushiels_Scion
[...] there is no real place to farm for [rubies and saphires]
Wrong. Actually, there is a very convenient place to farm for these gems, but many people farming in that area aren't aware of it, because you have to use an Expert Salvage Kit to "dig" for them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kushiels_Scion
[Ectos] should be worth more than 9k [...]
That's a stupid thing to say. The price is the result of the balance of supply and demand. Welcome to the basics of free markets.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bale_Shadowscar
This thread can be summarised as:
Dear ANet. Please make drops more frequent and loot more rewarding, so that farming is much easier and I can get a lot more money. Cheers.
QFT.

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bale_Shadowscar
This thread can be summarised as:

Dear ANet. Please make drops more frequent and loot more rewarding, so that farming is much easier and I can get a lot more money. Cheers.
Or: -
Dear ANet. Please make drops more frequent and loot more rewarding, so that farming is much easier and I can get elite armor with no work. Cheers.

I would like a Req 8 15>50 Crystalline sword as I rarely see them for sale but you dont see me asking Anet to make them drop tons.

Skyi

Skyi

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris L
Wrong. Actually, there is a very convenient place to farm for these gems
tell us where pls

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyi
tell us where pls
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Salvage_Kit

Lord Natural

Lord Natural

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

Black Crescent [BC]

W/

Rubies and Sapphires drop? I've gotten maybe 1... ever.

strcpy

strcpy

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

One of Many [ONE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyi
tell us where pls
It's been said several times - Djinn essences can salvage into Rubies or Sapphires, also Ruby weapons have a chance to. For the weapons, use the higly salvageable mod to increase chance.

Find an area with a lot of Djinn, kill them. There are several places, not hard to find. I think there is even a solo build or two for them.

Even then, it's not that hard to afford vabbian, I purchased all but the ones I got with my trade contracts and did it since the release of nightfall and little to no farming. Just did quests, identified and sold all drops, and didn't waste too much money on things I didn't need (though I still spent quite a bit on equipping my heroes).

getalifebud

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

N/

Speaking of luck, one day, during the green weekend for nightfall, i got my first...
Black Dye
White Dye
Ruby (twice)
And some other stuff (greens and more)