W/E Advice please.

Nevermind, xD.

try Whirlwind(dont need any air magic just the knockdown)=>"On Your Knees!"=>Gladiator's Defense=>Bonetti's Defense=>Riposte=>Deadly Riposte
just make sure to sword enemys that try to run away

could also try shock for a more reliable Kd, (but with exhaustion)

and if you are new to the game i suggest try another class to. how about necros? just dont wander into MMing thinking "oo an army"... curses is the way to go.

>_> Already made a MM <_<
But I'm trying to make my W more fun.
Cause I'm kind of bored of server artery, gash, Galthra Slash and Finishing Strike >_> and Hundred Blades. With the last 3 Sprint, Vigorous Spirit and Res >_>

If I went W/N all I know would be something like, Sever, Gash, Slash, Finish, Blades, Plague touch possibly a res and something that I don't know what to put.

/N also gets greneth's balance, which is amazing

Rodgort idea is usable, and I'd rather go armor of mist, personally, or frigid armor if you're facing burning.

Uhm, in any cae Triple Chop and Cyclone axe is too good to lose for me. Shock/Whirlwind for On Your Knees is also usable, but eh.

AoE on Warrior is crap because Warriors have +100 against physical anyway

The OP did specify Prophecies-only...

One spot I'd start looking at is getting hold of an elemental sword (or some other weapon type, if you don't mind turning away from swords) of some kind (except Ebon). The Conjure enchantments are a nice boost if you have a spare space in your skillbar.

I'm a fan of the principle of letting people come up with their own builds, but here's some advice:

General: Most PvE W/E builds I've seen are generally looking towards the point blank area-of-effect spells, relying on the Warrior's higher armour to survive where a primary Elementalist might not (or where the latter would at least need to expend more effort on defense. This role is made somewhat obsolete by the Dervish, but I think the W/E does still have some advantage in versatility - they can mix PBAOEs with single-target can-opener attacks in a way that the Dervish can't really achieve.

The alternate usage is essentially the super-tank - using those skills intended to make the Elementalist a little bit more survivable to make yourself an even harder nut to crack.

One thing to keep in mind with W/E builds are the often-high energy demands of the Elementalist side. In my experience, the Energy Glyphs (the only real energy management on the Elementalist side available to a W/E) generally take up valueble time you could be swinging a weapon. However, the Warrior energy management skills like Bonetti's Defense and Warrior's Endurance are worth experimenting with. In a similar vein, it's worth taking mostly adrenal skills on the Warrior side to save energy for Elementalist skills.

Working through the individual elements:

Air: Mostly used for knockdowns - most infamously, through Shock (and, formerly, Gale), but more commonly in PvE around Whirlwind. As suggested above, use this with skills that key off your enemy being knocked down (admittedly, these are mostly in Hammer Mastery). Alternatively, you could try using Glimmering Mark to keep your enemy blinded in concert with a shocking weapon - generally most effective against small numbers of single opponents or enemies that can be relied on to cluster. It's generally not worth the effort if the enemy scatters.

Earth: The most common element for an uber-tank build, employing defensive skills such as Armour of Earth (but note the speed reduction can be a problem) and the various Wards. You don't have a Conjure spell for this element, but on the offensive side you have Aftershock (generally combined with hammer knockdowns or, although this is costly in attribute points, Whirlwind) and Crystal Wave (good against opponents with high armour, but make sure no-one in your party is making heavy use of conditions).

Fire: Purely offensive, here. You appear to have already found Mark of Rodgort, which I experimented with back when it was single-target and cost 25 energy. In it's current form, I'd probably look closely at combining it with Hundred Blades and a fire sword. On the other side of things, or possibly combining with this, you have the fire-based PBAOEs - Inferno is probably the best for a warrior out of the Prophecies choices, although there are ways to make the other choices (Flame Strike, Phoenix, and Lava Font) work. Just keep in mind the disadvantages in each (Flame Strike will drain your energy very quickly if you try to spam it without some impressive energy management, Phoenix has the long casting time (although the big damage when it does hit can be worth it) and Lava Font has the general problem with DoT effects).

Water: Not my favourite element, but I think most of the notes for Earth apply here, with different skills: Armour of Frost and Armour of Mist give some extra armour in a pinch (note that, unlike Armour of Earth, you're not going to be able to keep them up permanently, but on the other hand they don't have the downside - Armour of Mist even gives you a speed boost) Offensively, Water Magic skills are more inclined towards hampering your opponents, and aren't really energy-efficient means of doing damage - with mobs being more inclined to kite nowadays, however, Water slowdowns may may be more useful than back when I was trying it out.

There we go, I hope that helps you in thinking up some evil builds of your own...

One more thing, however: It's worth checking the discussion page of any build on the wiki you're thinking about using, especially the unfavoured ones: They can often give you insight as to why they were unfavoured that could be used to improve the build. Or, in this case, reveal that the build has been extensively overhauled and is up for reevaluation.

Good luck! I've personally been having a lot of fun with the W/E combination - there are just so many options for creative mischief, even if you are restricted to Prophecies skills.

This is my W/E setup (I've played all 3 campaigns--PVE; I'm sure a lot of the PVP vets might not like this build too much):
Armor: Glad's
Runes: Superior Absorption, Superior Vigor, Superior Swordsmanship, Minor Stength, Minor Tactics
Weapon: Fiery Dragon Sword of Fortitude
Shield: the best one you can get (I use an Exalted Aegis, from Factions, which gives me extra damage absorption and health. I dont know what shield you might get in Prophecies that might be an equivalent of this).

Here's a build I've used for a while (when I'm using Fire skills, which I like the most)--it's a pretty good one, IMO:
-Res Sig (because everyone should have this in their build)
-Endure Pain (takes some pressure off your monk)
-Warrior's Endurance (let's you build up your energy while fighting)
-Mark of Rodgort (I like this one when using an FDS)
-Inferno (nice for inflicting some damage on surrounding foes)
- attack skill
-attack skill
-attack skill
Lately, I've been using 3 adrenaline skills (sever artey, gash, final thrust); I don't really like an all energy build for a warrior. These you can experiment with; there are some good combinations (Riposte/deadly Riposte was mentioned before, or, if you're going up against some casters, possibly an interrupt skill like Savage Slash will do OK).

I carry a few different swords, because I like to experiment with the other elemental skills--I have a shocking sword when I feel like using the Air skills, and I have a few "Cold" (Icy) swords for folling around with the Water skills.

This is NOT a solo build; it's a good build with a balanced party. I do think, in PVE, you have a lot of flexibility with creating some builds. I used to use the "Untested Builds" on guildwiki as a basis for some ideas, but they've removed a majority of the more intersting ones.
I'm in Prophecies every now and then, whisper me if you want to run through a few ideas...

Okay thanks alot ^_^.

I was wondering if I wanted an Air version how that would go about.
Cause currently my best weapon believe it or not is a Lightning mod sword, 15-22 +15% dmg while enchanted >_>.

Also I was wondering about that Solo Fest 2005 Warrior/Necro build, does that still work?
Cause I need gold for some skills ._. 1 Platinum is too expensive T_T.

well just because you have a lightning mod sword dosnt mean you need to use air magic, conjures arent really nessicary

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Thanks draxynnic for all the input ^_^
I'll try out when I have time and try the variations.

I used Shock Axe for all of the Elonian Storyline with little to no problems; the only problem came in Gate of Pain when I had a random Ranger bitch on how I am not the elite Wamo tank of awesomeness despite fighting caster-heavy classes.

Drynaxxic covered it but I might as well add my input as well.

Air Magic: Shock ftw, Gale got the nerf that killed it. Also Conjure Lightning if you invest in enough air and have a shocking weapon.

Earth Magic: Stoneflesh Aura, Armor of Earth, Magnetic Aura, and alot of other spells dictate that you won't die through physical methods.

Fire Magic: Only good skills i can see is the Conjure spell or Burning Speed/Flame Djinn's Haste. Mark of Rogdort may be good if a Fire Axe = Fire damage but I am unsure about this.

Water Magic: Frigid Armor owns Searing Flame spike. No Burning = No chance. A guildie of mine experimented with Mirror of Ice and had some good results, but I don't like the one-use only stipulation.

I think that Mark of Rodgort's energy cost of 15 takes it out of the equation for most warrior builds to be honest.

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He said he had proph only guys ...

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Yeah I'm planning to get Factions as soon as I play enough of prophecies >_>
And if I can still find a stall selling Factions ._.

They only have Proph and Nightfalls T_T (curse you Australian game stalls!)

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Yeah, but I mostly Hench >_>.
All I've got left for my Warrior is find a few more decent builds with W/x other than the standard le whammo, mapping 19% left ._., the rest of the skills >_< poor! and anything else if I ever get the gold for it.

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Victoria, When I first bought Proph they had Factions next to it in EBGames, I thought that I'd buy it later... big mistake >_<.

Canberra might not help you much, then... although it might be something to keep in mind if you ever do visit the capital.

You could try asking if they can get a copy moved to the local store for you, though.

Yeah I could try that, otherwise it might be best to purchase it online >_>

Also an option - I was holding back from mentioning it because not everyone has a credit card, and while there are (or used to be) Australian online games distributors that have alternate payment options, I don't think any of them have Factions.

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo T_t.

Please refrain from posting messages such as " Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo T_t."

Well, at least post something amidst it.

Playing W/E can be tough...I guess you can try using a generic Sword build with perhaps Water Trident, or drop /E entirely? You could try using a Shock Axe without the Shock, or perhaps a Cleave Axe.

No no, see, in my first post, I've completed the campaign with W/Mo the standard whammo, what I want now is something different. And I really like the prospect of W/E even though it seems incompatible. >_>

Anyhoo, sorry for the useless post up there ^.^,

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Actually, playing W/E isn't that difficult; I've had a lot of fun with it through all three campaigns. I make it a point to really study those ele skills. Try using those skills that dont have long cast times (3/4 to 1 sec is good), until you get comfortable with it. You wont have too much succes trying to use spells in the middle of a melee that take 3 or more seconds to cast--the chance of getting interrupted works against you.
Earlier, you mentioned that you were thinking about usng some Air skills, because you had a good weapon for that. Look at those skills: a lot of them focus on single targets, whereas Earth and Fire have more AoE skills (I like using Earth and Fire more, but Air isn't that bad). You could try Glimmering Mark (provided the enemies arent interrupting you too badly) + Lightning Bolt.
Keep in mind that it will take you longer to finish an enemy using Air skills...

if your getting factions, id check amazon. when i was looking at nightfall they were still selling the faction pre-release thingy

Factions isn't available in GW's online store?

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