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Spirit_Axery

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Join Date: May 2006

The Promised Land

A/D

03 Jan 2007 at 04:35 - 1

Petition for GW Marriages

Attention: For those of you who just clicked this to quickly add /notsigned because you're grumpy so-and-so'; consider that it might actually be a half-decent money sink, as well as being a fun distraction from the monotony of every day GW grind.

On with the general idea:

@ - There should be a lengthy quest. To get married, a couple should have to acquire a gift each, a ring each and the proper dress, of course. (Perhaps more than just this, and probably class specific.)

@ - The quality of the ceremony should be determined by how much the two players are paying combined. The style should be determined by which land, or which of the six temples the ceremony is held in.

@ - There should be an island where only married couples can go, with unique items not unlike candy cane equipment. Just novelty stuff and side activities to flesh out the addition as a whole.

@ - Same sex marriage should obviously also be possible. I shouldn't even have to mention it, but a part of me knows that I do, so there it is.

@ - The six temples: These, like the island exclusively for married couples, would be smallish new areas accessible through the marriage ceremony. The six temples are comprised of one temple for the whole pantheon, and then one for each individual deity. No temple provides any specific blessing or benefit; it is purely about changing the style of the ceremony.

Extras:

There should be titles for people who repeatedly disband marriages, as well as for those who go unmarried for a year or more, ie; "Certified Bachelor“. This should also work in the reverse, although at the moment I can't think of a title for a long marriage that isn't awfully cheesy.

That's all I'm going to write for now. I'm prepared for an awful response, although I can't imagine why. This idea is not about augmenting PvE or PvP, but adding to those things shouldn't be *all* we look at.

~Mitsuki~

Ascalon Chariot

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

W/

03 Jan 2007 at 04:38 - 2

Pretty nice idea, except im not marrying anyone in this game...Maybe I will let my 2 accounts marry each other. Lol

/signed

Saphrium

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Granite Citadel

Post Searing Ascalonian Merchants

N/Me

03 Jan 2007 at 04:55 - 3

/Not signed

Don't seem to be constructive for either community nor gameplay.

Spirit_Axery

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

The Promised Land

A/D

03 Jan 2007 at 05:06 - 4

It'd help if you told me just what you mean by "constructive".

Marriage is a very popular feature of other MMO's, including Ragnarok and Lineage 2. Since it IS popular, it's only logical to say that the communities support it. If the masses desire it, it's a worthwhile addition; "constructive" or not.

PS: I'm sure the RP community would call it constructive.

~Mitsuki~

Priest Of Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne.

Live For The Swarm [ZERG]

Me/N

03 Jan 2007 at 05:17 - 5

/signed

Now, if only I could get my GF to play Guild Wars i'd be in business!

Mr D J

Permanently Unbanned

Join Date: Jun 2005

03 Jan 2007 at 05:25 - 6

Yeah and after you get married, you get a permanent title saying Nerd (1). You can't take it off. Sorry if I offended someone but seriously... getting married in a game... I don't even want to do that in real life. I'm sorry if I'm offending someone but I have a point. If you want to flame me for this comment, sure go ahead, hate cheers me up

. Imagine a 40 year old greasy guy saying that he is a girl and ugh... do I need a further explanation? And believe me... anet is never going to do something like that... I know that for sure. Once again, I apologize if I offended someone and I apologize to OP for flaming his/her idea.

/notsigned

Katari

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Upstate

Me/

03 Jan 2007 at 05:29 - 7

Marriges are a portal to an insane level of E-Drama that I frankly am glad is absent from GW.

Spirit_Axery

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

The Promised Land

A/D

03 Jan 2007 at 05:38 - 8

I'm not going to flame you, but I don't think that criticism was "constructive". What I mean when I say this is that your opinion of peoples' lack of honesty in no way helps to determine the worth the concept itself. Such an emotive response ought not to stand in the way of something that might be a great addition to the game.

Also, I'm aware that Anet doesn't often listen to the community. Over 900 people have signed for an RP district, and they don't have one. More than that number signed for an auction house for PvE, they don't have one.

Still, I make this petition hoping they'll actually afford the concept a glance, and the fact that they probably won't doesn't make the concept any less valid- meaning that a criticism based upon the slim odds *also* isn't really useful when evaluating the *idea* itself.

~Mitsuki~

PS: To Katari - Do you prefer to get your daily helping of petty drama from the screaming toddlers which populate HA? Once more, an "amateur critique" which is almost impossible to justify and doesn't really analyse the concept.

Achilles Antony

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Hangar 18

03 Jan 2007 at 05:45 - 9

Yeah, I've never really cared for this idea, for exactly the reason Mr D J pointed out. I could just see some poor young guy thinking he met a great girl in game, and sitting on the other side of the internet is some fat, greasy, ugly man pretending to be a girl. It happens all the time now, I imagine, and I'm sure it would just get worse if marriage was implemented. Plus, can you just see this island for married couples? Can you say "net sex". Hmmmm... no, not interested. There's a line between the fantasy online world and reality, and I feel this crosses it in a huge way. It's my opinion though, others may think differently and I do respect that.

/not signed

Hand of Ruin

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

03 Jan 2007 at 05:45 - 10

Seems a little pathetic to me. Why do you need to get married in a game? What does that prove? If you want to roleplay, go ahead... I wont judge you (in public), but asking for support for whatever roleplaying fantasy you have, earns you a big /notsigned from me.

Mystic-

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

03 Jan 2007 at 05:47 - 11

lvl 7 W/Mo WTS Mo/Me wife, 100k obo
pm me. -_-

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

03 Jan 2007 at 05:50 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mystic-

lvl 7 W/Mo WTS Mo/Me wife, 100k obo
pm me. -_-

I was eating a lolly when I read this, I started to choke

.

People already get married In-game with or without the aid of any Anet staff.

This idea is useless, if you want to get married, don't offer it as a quest that can be done and have its reputation ruined by people who only want to reap the rewards.

Spirit_Axery

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

The Promised Land

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03 Jan 2007 at 05:51 - 13

I accept what you're saying Achilles, but I think you and D J are A: assuming that people who GW marry are anything more than friends having a laugh and wasting some gold and B: Not capable of ascertaining the honesty of their friends for themselves.

If they aren't, then not only are they victims of their own gullibility, but they're also not being hurt until they find out.

If and when they do: They have no recourse other than to separate and keep playing- if for *some reason* this E-marriage meant that much to them. No recourse, no complaints, no compensation. Boo-hoo. If you're taking it that seriously, you're much too silly.

~Mitsuki~

PS: *phew* It's getting tough to keep ontop of the replies I can answer. I can argue with pretty much everything above.
Hand Of Ruin said:
"Seems a little pathetic to me. Why do you need to get married in a game? What does that prove? If you want to roleplay, go ahead... I wont judge you (in public), but asking for support for whatever roleplaying fantasy you have, earns you a big /notsigned from me."

Please see: "Friends having a laugh and wasting some gold." Also, your prejudice against RP'ers (who're just having fun and not totally absorbed in a freaky way) is irrelevant.

Helcaraxe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

On top of a mountain

A Bad Moon Rising [Moon]

Me/Mo

03 Jan 2007 at 06:04 - 14

no... just no...

if you want to get married in GW do something creative, I'm sure you can figure it out.

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

03 Jan 2007 at 06:06 - 15

Frankly, I think the only people who will seriously do a marridge (as in put on something that costs over 100K) would be people who know eachother well. It's not like if you get married in a game, it means you're actually married.

I bet that if they did this, probably more than half of the marridges would be same sex, just for the fun of it. Now, both of the players could be straight males, but since they're probably secure enough about their sexuality, they don't care if they're in a gay marridge in a game.

About net sex... I don't think the OP had any plans for implementing that.

I don't think that most people who would plan on keeping the marridge would just grab some random person to "marry", they would probably do it with someone who they know, or are good friends with in game.

Morgenstern

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

New Zealand

W/R

03 Jan 2007 at 06:11 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr D J

Yeah and after you get married, you get a permanent title saying Nerd (1). You can't take it off. Sorry if I offended someone but seriously... getting married in a game... I don't even want to do that in real life. I'm sorry if I'm offending someone but I have a point. If you want to flame me for this comment, sure go ahead, hate cheers me up

. Imagine a 40 year old greasy guy saying that he is a girl and ugh... do I need a further explanation? And believe me... anet is never going to do something like that... I know that for sure. Once again, I apologize if I offended someone and I apologize to OP for flaming his/her idea.

/notsigned

Sums it up nicely. Don't mean any offense but seriously? Isn't that just labeling that you need a life?

Spirit_Axery

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

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03 Jan 2007 at 06:17 - 17

Again, Morgenstern, that depends upon whether you're just having fun and using a cool feature or spending your life savings- pathetically- in the naaaaaame of love. *cough*

Can people stop assuming GW marriage is intended to be OMG teh real deal between users now? *sigh* People can be really obtuse.

~Mitsuki~

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

03 Jan 2007 at 06:35 - 18

/not signed

There just isn't a need for it. people need to get the hell outside more anyway.

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

W/

03 Jan 2007 at 06:59 - 19

I don't really think there's a need for marriage in GW because:

1. GW isn't a RP game
2. Most people who would do it would probably already be friends and would probably have planned out having PCs with the same last names.
3. You can always make a new PC
4. No honeymoons are possible.

-.-

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

03 Jan 2007 at 07:03 - 20

Wasn't there already a thread about this?

/Not signed.

Go play a MMORPG.

Sli Ander

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Deep in Maguuma, by the Falls

Liberators of Agony

Mo/R

03 Jan 2007 at 07:07 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by -.-

Wasn't there already a thread about this?

/Not signed.

Go play a MMORPG.

Yeah, there probably was. I recall there being mentioned that during an alpha/beta or something there was a marriage(anet staff). If someone could provide a link that would be nice.

As to the whole idea:
1)money sink is good
2) why not, sounds harmless and has amusement factor.

And to head off any possible MMORPG/Corpg fight which might erupt: This game will grow with its players. Whichever side they decide to lean to, it still has orpg in the title.

But that's just my 2 cents

Spirit_Axery

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

The Promised Land

A/D

03 Jan 2007 at 07:52 - 22

1. Some of you really are grumpy guts! ;3;
2. GW is an MMORPG. (Thanks Sli, saved me checking the box.

)
3. If anything without an ESSENTIAL use is pointless, throw away your computer games. It does nothing to augment your working life. Distraction from the grind is an idiotic luxury. According to you.
4. It's clear that many people come here DESPERATE to /notsign something.

About the Anet staff marriage: I know about that, but frankly, I've got no time to grace people who say "just act it out" with a reply. If that was nearly as engaging or cool, then people would be doing it already en masse.

I'm going to bed, but don't be sad!! Never fear!! I'll be back in about five hours to continue shooting down flimsy critiques.

-.-

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

03 Jan 2007 at 07:58 - 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spirit_Axery

2. GW is an MMORPG. (Thanks Sli, saved me checking the box.

)

Correction: Guild Wars is a CORPG like Diablo 2.

Spirit_Axery

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

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03 Jan 2007 at 08:12 - 24

Oh darnit. Should have gone straight to bed huh? Orpg, and there's no need to check anything because I know that. xD

At any rate, someone said go play an MMO, and my response is that saying it's inappropriate to ask for GW marriage- regardless of whether it's MMORPG or Corpg- is absurd and not just a little idiotic so long as it's an RPG.

So yeah. Sleepy time.

~Mitsuki~

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

03 Jan 2007 at 08:26 - 25

I'd sooner petition for marriages in CS.

/notsigned.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

03 Jan 2007 at 08:58 - 26

I think its a nifty idea. But I can see the GWs divorce rate being extremely high. It would be cool for those who play along side their g/fs or b/fs and they want to unite.

Although that could cause alot of "pressure" on a real-life relationship:

Her: "How come you'l marry me in the game, but not in real life?"

Him: "Erm..... oh look is that the time?" *runs away*

What about sharing possession or stuff though as you do a real marriage. Who gets to spend the gold and who gets to buy the clothes?

/signed mostly

Im not keen on the idea of having a unique marriage island, as that is far too much work for Anet to be focusing on. Especially when they have other campaigns in the work.

Spirit_Axery

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

The Promised Land

A/D

03 Jan 2007 at 09:48 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

I think its a nifty idea.

+50pts for use the word "nifty".

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

/signed mostly

Im not keen on the idea of having a unique marriage island.

Yeah, I'd be willing to abandon that. I've never played L2 myself, even though I know a little about its marriage system; I *have* however played RO, and I freely admit to pilfering the island from the server I used to frequent.

It's just hard to let go of the OTT stuff! xD
"Over the top" not referring to marriage or the addition of cool novelty items itself, because that is most certainly not over the top.

~Mitsuki~

PS: Forum induced insomnia is me.

WRHokage

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/R

03 Jan 2007 at 10:25 - 28

There was a long thread about this last year. It was quite amusing at some point, but overall the person who started the thread was very serious the marriage proposal.

Vital

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

MN

Wart Machine [Dojismom]

03 Jan 2007 at 10:33 - 29

"No sir, I don't like it."

Draxanoth

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Washington

Archons of the Condemned

W/Me

03 Jan 2007 at 10:37 - 30

In general I agree, it's kinda weird. Maybe ditch all the extra odd stuff, but the marriage idea itself isn't terrible from a use standpoint. Maybe combine storage as double the size so they can access the same stuff? Make it easier to pool resources for some with two accounts possibly as well as those who actually play with someone significant. It's just as valid as guild storage IMO.

/Signed minus the weird temple stuff and pointless other content.

Mr_Cynical

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

Scotland

Region of Chosen Kings [R.O.C.K]

E/Mo

03 Jan 2007 at 11:12 - 31

/notsigned. This is a game, not Second Life.

FunkSoldier

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

Vlaardingen, Netherlands

LWW

W/Mo

03 Jan 2007 at 11:18 - 32

lol

/signed

Spirit_Axery

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

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03 Jan 2007 at 11:42 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Cynical

/notsigned. This is a game, not Second Life.

Yes, this is a game and not a second life. Well observed. Sadly, you have failed in your aim if your intention was to provide a valid reason for your objection, since it's a statement that doesn't refer in any way to the idea.

I'll explain how it doesn't relate:

A game will remain a game and not a second life whether it includes marriage as a feature or not. Since this is true, your observation is correct, but irrelevant to the discussion.

I'd be happy to accept some competent critiquing, but I won't hesitate to defend against stuff like this; please don't mistake it for a flame.

~Mitsuki~

[KotL]Mjolnir

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

UK

W/Mo

03 Jan 2007 at 11:52 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spirit_Axery

Yes, this is a game and not a second life

http://secondlife.com/

I believe the person was refering to the game hence the capitals. I would rather ArenaNet work on gameplay than add features like this to be quite honest.

ayame ftw

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

Belgium

Forgot the Ghostlyyyyy

R/

03 Jan 2007 at 11:53 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katari

Marriges are a portal to an insane level of E-Drama that I frankly am glad is absent from GW.

qft... if i want to get married i would find my self a real girl

Gregslot

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/

03 Jan 2007 at 12:03 - 36

NO!
Go play Ragnarok

Aegeroth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sydney, AUS.

Sons of Dark Magicians [SoDM]

N/Me

03 Jan 2007 at 12:11 - 37

No.
Definately Not.

Some people use games to escape reality.
And then people try to bring it in to games as well?

I've mentioned my next point in a previous post, which i doubt you'd ever read amongst the endless posting here

Abaddon: I will slay ye mortal!
Hero: Never, i shall preva- oh damn it 6 o'clock, sorry Abaddon, I have to get dinner ready for with wife, very sorry. Tomorrow mabye?
Abaddon: Oh, yeh its fine, i mean hey not all of us are gods huh.
Hero: Hah ye-

No.
/notsigned

Also, what would happen if you don't like each other anymore? Divorce? Kinda sad imo.

GedLongbow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

A pinapple under the Jade Sea

R/Mo

03 Jan 2007 at 12:16 - 38

GW is made for action and killing stuff..not love. If you want love, get a gf.
/notsigned

Amity and Truth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/N

03 Jan 2007 at 12:20 - 39

Ah, the armada of self proclaimed Anti Nerds (preaching Anti Nerdism since BTX, yo!) bashing this idea. It's downright funny and was to be expected. Give a human a chance on bashing something and he will gladly jump and bash it into the ground, even if there is no reason for it.
As seen in this thread.

/signed on the idea of allowing marriage in the game.
Don't combine it with IG advantages of any kind (as in: if it becomes a title, don't let it count towards KOABD) though.

/edit:
And to all those "get a gf yo!" gangsters. I have one, sorry. Your flame meets 100% immunity but both, my GF and me liked this idea. I guess you must know a bit more about life to like this idea and not just bash it.

azathothx

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Cork, Ireland

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

R/P

03 Jan 2007 at 12:22 - 40

/notsigned

seriously, the drama llama's will be all over this one. there are no other elements of this type in the game, why should they add marriage?