E/Me Smite only run: Mass aggro and quick!
Evilsod
Your better off with 8 seconds at the very least. A 20% enchantments mod will give you an extra 1.4s at 7seconds, which rounds down to 8 seconds, whereas at 8 seconds it would give 1.6s and round up to 10 seconds.
Dr Strangelove
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
Your better off with 8 seconds at the very least. A 20% enchantments mod will give you an extra 1.4s at 7seconds, which rounds down to 8 seconds, whereas at 8 seconds it would give 1.6s and round up to 10 seconds.
I thought GW rounded all fractions down.....
I thought GW rounded all fractions down.....
mr_groovy
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Originally Posted by Yarghetaus
Well, give Glyph of Concentration a try 
Stoneflesh Aura -> Stonestriker ->Mantra of Earth -> Storm Djinn's Haste -> Glyph of concentration
aggro, then the glyph covers the casting of sandstorm and earthquake. Aftershock can't be countered (they're knocked down), when they die recast Stoneflesh, wait for Aftershock to recharge, kill the incoming darknesses.
Easier to do than to explain
Only thing is that glyph of concentration:[skill]Glyph of concentration[/skill] doesn't drain the energy of the smites, thus making them heal them self. Thus making them harder to kill 
Stoneflesh Aura -> Stonestriker ->Mantra of Earth -> Storm Djinn's Haste -> Glyph of concentration
aggro, then the glyph covers the casting of sandstorm and earthquake. Aftershock can't be countered (they're knocked down), when they die recast Stoneflesh, wait for Aftershock to recharge, kill the incoming darknesses.
Easier to do than to explain
Only thing is that glyph of concentration:[skill]Glyph of concentration[/skill] doesn't drain the energy of the smites, thus making them heal them self. Thus making them harder to kill
martop sohma
well been thinking, couldn't you drop mantra of earth for AV/SV?
i dont know if they do damage if you dont have the mantra on, just a suggestion(also dont know if this was posted before)
i dont know if they do damage if you dont have the mantra on, just a suggestion(also dont know if this was posted before)
Enko
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Originally Posted by martop sohma
well been thinking, couldn't you drop mantra of earth for AV/SV?
i dont know if they do damage if you dont have the mantra on, just a suggestion(also dont know if this was posted before) what are you going to do for energy then?
i dont know if they do damage if you dont have the mantra on, just a suggestion(also dont know if this was posted before) what are you going to do for energy then?
Koning
Mantra of earth isn't here for the damage reduction, only for the energy management. With only stoneflesh on, you take 0 damage from graspings+smites. Like evilsod said earlier, channeling might be the only replacement for it.
kicks66
but even channeling wont really help, against 5 smites thats only 5 energy per cast, not exactly swimming in energy like you do with MoE
Yarghetaus
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Originally Posted by mr_groovy
Only thing is that glyph of concentration:[skill]Glyph of concentration[/skill] doesn't drain the energy of the smites, thus making them heal them self. Thus making them harder to kill
Harder ? No, not really. Most of them will die anyway, there could be 1 or 2 survivors, but again, aftershock quickly dispatch them. This is the build I currently use, simply because makes the exiting from the first room easier and safer
Harder ? No, not really. Most of them will die anyway, there could be 1 or 2 survivors, but again, aftershock quickly dispatch them. This is the build I currently use, simply because makes the exiting from the first room easier and safer
HTW
dudes i keep getting this problem where i lure the grasping darkness i use tab and find out only 2/3 or 3/4 have use distracting and then when i use av i get interupted and then i die... anyone else having same problem and how can i avoid it and if it happens how can i get around it?
carbajac
Since the update, I use Glyph of Concentration and never looked back. Either SV/AV doesn't last long enough for you to get in position or it gets interrupted. And the energy drain on the smites never really mattered anyway since they'd just run away and regain their health/energy.
Swift Thief
I laughed my *** off when I saw this. http://cgi.ebay.com/Toilets-Guild-Wa...QQcmdZViewItem
Hyprodimus Prime
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Originally Posted by carbajac
Since the update, I use Glyph of Concentration and never looked back. Either SV/AV doesn't last long enough for you to get in position or it gets interrupted. And the energy drain on the smites never really mattered anyway since they'd just run away and regain their health/energy.
I think you are doing something wrong then...You just have to make sure that all of their interrupts are out of the way. You can visually remember who has used up their Distracting blows. Once they are done, throw on SV or AV and do your combo. As for smites, unless your earth isnt on 16, you can kill them with one combo. As they run, the SS AoE will kill them.
Correct me if im wrong, but GoC can also be interrupted, just as easily.
"Swipe your weapon at the target, dealing no damage but disrupting the target's current action (and the actions of foes adjacent to your target)."
Its a 1 sec cast just like SV/AV. Whats the diff?
Correct me if im wrong, but GoC can also be interrupted, just as easily.
"Swipe your weapon at the target, dealing no damage but disrupting the target's current action (and the actions of foes adjacent to your target)."
Its a 1 sec cast just like SV/AV. Whats the diff?
Scrabbos
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Originally Posted by Hyprodimus Prime
Its a 1 sec cast just like SV/AV. Whats the diff?
I havent tried the E/Me version before, but I guess it is because you can cast GoC before you aggro the grasps - and yea I know you can do that with SV/AV too, but
1) SV/AV doesnt last as long as GoC
2) You don't need to wait for SV/AV to take effect, normally youll have to wait a few secs before their energy is empty.
3) if youre really unlucky your AV/SV gets rended. Glyphs cant.
Now, as youre back at the altar you can cast your next 2 spells easy as pie, even if GoC wears out as you're casting EQ it won't get interupted, both because the effect of GoC works as you start casting a spell and also because i can imagine that the grasps will use d-blow, even though youre un-interuptable, just they will try to interupt you if theyre blind.
1) SV/AV doesnt last as long as GoC
2) You don't need to wait for SV/AV to take effect, normally youll have to wait a few secs before their energy is empty.
3) if youre really unlucky your AV/SV gets rended. Glyphs cant.
Now, as youre back at the altar you can cast your next 2 spells easy as pie, even if GoC wears out as you're casting EQ it won't get interupted, both because the effect of GoC works as you start casting a spell and also because i can imagine that the grasps will use d-blow, even though youre un-interuptable, just they will try to interupt you if theyre blind.
Xethrion
Actually, no. After the nerf, you do NOT pre-cast SV. You cast it after aggroing, and after counting Distracting Blows.
Honestly, if you're getting interrupted while casting AV, it's either cos you're impatient, or you haven't got the timing down yet. It's pretty much foolproof once you know what you're looking for.
Honestly, if you're getting interrupted while casting AV, it's either cos you're impatient, or you haven't got the timing down yet. It's pretty much foolproof once you know what you're looking for.
Hyprodimus Prime
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Originally Posted by Scrabbos
1) SV/AV doesnt last as long as GoC
2) You don't need to wait for SV/AV to take effect, normally youll have to wait a few secs before their energy is empty.
3) if youre really unlucky your AV/SV gets rended. Glyphs cant.
Now, as youre back at the altar you can cast your next 2 spells easy as pie, even if GoC wears out as you're casting EQ it won't get interupted, both because the effect of GoC works as you start casting a spell and also because i can imagine that the grasps will use d-blow, even though youre un-interuptable, just they will try to interupt you if theyre blind.
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Originally Posted by Xethrion
Actually, no. After the nerf, you do NOT pre-cast SV. You cast it after aggroing, and after counting Distracting Blows.
Honestly, if you're getting interrupted while casting AV, it's either cos you're impatient, or you haven't got the timing down yet. It's pretty much foolproof once you know what you're looking for. And yes. Thats what i was missing before, I forgot you can precast glyph. And yes SV comes after you aggro. Which is safer?
Carboplatin
the GoC sounds like an good idea, i might give that a try and see how it compares to SV.
I've been using the 8sec SV with no problems at all but i am not sure how the smites are when they have full energy and spam RoF that might be too much self heal xDusT II
blown about 20k, dont see how you get past the nightmares anymore... I cant even accept the quest anymore, the nightmares just spawn which triggers all the enemies onto you....
Hyprodimus Prime
Are you precasting Storm Djinn's Haste? An easy way is if you reconfig your controls so that "z" is reverse direction and "x" is auto run. When you get the quest or aggro you hit zx and its and auto kite.
I dont know what else could be going on because I rarely think about waiting for patrols as soon as i get in, throw on SDH grab the quest and zx. osk
AFter watching the video in this thread :
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10126849 video => http://youtube.com/watch?v=TxMnKEQhanI i was wondering will unsteady ground be a better elite than sandstorm ? any1 tried ? Swame Rain
I've triedd Unsteady ground..and it isn't near as good as Sandstrom..sandstorm does the extra damage when they are attacking. Still want to thank the OP for showing the build....200 ectos in about a month and a half!! Ecto drop rate really varies though..sometimes i go 5 runs with not one ecto..other times 5 ectos in one run. LOL
If anyone is having problems I'm on a lot and will be glad to help out. My IGN is Oly Ele (american favor) or Fire Niche(Euro favor)
Hyprodimus Prime
Clever....best of both worlds.
HTW
i get a problem where i lure grasping darknesses and one of them hasnt used their distracting blow,is anyone else having the same problem and does anyone know of a way around this or how to avoid it?
opno
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Originally Posted by HTW
i get a problem where i lure grasping darknesses and one of them hasnt used their distracting blow,is anyone else having the same problem and does anyone know of a way around this or how to avoid it?
Attack it and move around a little, that usualy makes them use their distracting blow.
Koning
attack them and they will use their distracting blow to interrupt your wand/melee attacks.
HTW
thnkz alot, will try it
Arkantos
Finally decided to make an ele and try this build. It's great. So much faster then the W/Rt I used to do
Still gotta get used to fighting the graspings though, I always get SV interrupted and I die
Desolation
still work???
Crusheer
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Originally Posted by Desolation
still work???
Yep, yesterday got 5e and 6golds from there.
Xxalon Tacotu
Sounds familiar......
I had 5 ecto and 3 golds in an hour last night
Evilsod
Meh, don't worry. The droprate will be back to levels of sheer pathetic once this weekend event gets up and running. That and the insane amount of lag that will decend on it.
lord_shar
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Originally Posted by opno
Attack it and move around a little, that usualy makes them use their distracting blow.
Recasting SDH pulls their Distracting Blows out even faster
Koning
Hmm, since I have an exam statistics atm, I've calculated the chance of getting 1 ecto (again):
(I've used the chance of 2% per smite dropping ecto, and 40 smites in total) 40^1 (this one means 40 above 1, which is eaqual to 40 anyway) *0.98^39*0.02^1 = 0.3638blablabla So this means a chance of 0.36 than you get an ecto each run. I'm still stuying the variance of this not happening so keep in touch
ArKaiN
I saw this thread about two weeks ago.
Since then I've gotten about 30e and 20g from this. Thank you so much.
Sprites
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Originally Posted by Koning
Hmm, since I have an exam statistics atm, I've calculated the chance of getting 1 ecto (again):
(I've used the chance of 2% per smite dropping ecto, and 40 smites in total) 40^1 (this one means 40 above 1, which is eaqual to 40 anyway) *0.98^39*0.02^1 = 0.3638blablabla So this means a chance of 0.36 than you get an ecto each run. I'm still stuying the variance of this not happening so keep in touch
not exacly true , it's the chance to have exactly one , but you can have more in a run E(ecto) = 40*0.02 = 0.8
Koning
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Originally Posted by Koning
So this means a chance of 0.36 than you get an ecto each run.
An ecto means 1 ecto in my vocabulary
2 ecto= 40 above 2 * 0.02^2 * 0.98^38=0.1447 = roughly 15% chance 3 ecto= '' '' 3 * 0.02^3 * 0.98^37=0.0374 = roughly 4% chance 4 ecto = '' '' 4 * 0.02^4 * 0.98^36=0.0071 = roughly 0.7% chance and more ectos is even more rare (this has to be the way to calculate the CHANCE it happens, or my studybooks from university have to be wrong )keep in note that we can discuss the 2% droprate, and again these calculations are not the EXPECTANCY (which is ofcourse different from chance). AerosX
Hey, I just started using this build today - and I cant even get past the graspings =/. Whenever I aggro a group of graspings, an aataxe always comes along and kills me :S. What should I do?
Cheers.
lord_shar
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Originally Posted by AerosX
Hey, I just started using this build today - and I cant even get past the graspings =/. Whenever I aggro a group of graspings, an aataxe always comes along and kills me :S. What should I do?
Cheers. Storm Djinn's Haste MUST be cast before agroing anything in the entry chamber. The speed boost is what prevents Aatxe from pursuing you, assuming you run the opposite direction with your back facing the aatxe. If you walk backwards, aatxe will still chase. AerosX
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Originally Posted by lord_shar
Storm Djinn's Haste MUST be cast before agroing anything in the entry chamber. The speed boost is what prevents Aatxe from pursuing you, assuming you run the opposite direction with your back facing the aatxe. If you walk backwards, aatxe will still chase.
Gtreat, ill try that. Cheers
Yarrick
I used this build a lot an never seem to get around to say thanks. Awesome work mate, keep it up.
AerosX
Ok.. Im failing every single time, ive tried like 50 times and cant get to the smites lol.. The odd time i kill the 3 groups of graspings, I try running to the next room, but everything kills me before i can get to the safe place
 . Can someone please show me a demo in game? Ill just suicide and watch you do it.Cheers! ign = Aeros The Divine
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