Why does everybody pick on Elementalists?

Every1 is always saying ele's are crap and arent all they are cracked up to be but don't put ele's down cause they are physically weak we make up for it in power and if you dont believe me your trying being an ele.

sure you may be good at it but if you are you will realise that it is fun at the same time, if your not so good you will appreciate that some ppl can handle the lack v health and armor and still kill as many enemies as the next person.

I just thought i would put that out there to stick up for all those ele's

Good on you for sticking up for those loathsome eles, but Im almost certain this isnt the right forum

I'm 110% certain this isn't the right forum.

I honestly don't know that this is the correct forum for this, and to that forum's moderators, I apologize. I didn't feel that this deserved deleting outright.

Eles ARE crap, now with the improved AI even in PvE they are crap.

PS : you might want to read this : http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s... nuking+sucks

(From a PvE Perspective) Why do some people put down Ele's? Because they're idiots. Same reason that some people put down Mesmers in PvE. There are NO useless professions in GW. In the hands of a competent player, in a competent group, any profession can help the party rip through enemies.

As far as soloing goes, I've only ever done it with my Warrior but I've seen in these forums solo builds for just about every class.

My first character was an Ele. And I still play him. If most players will just try them they might find out that the Elementalist is one of the most versitile professions in the game. Also if all these Elementalists were crap then why do most groups want at least one for almost every mission. I personaly find Nuking my way through missions rahter fun, ok they have crap for armor, but for sheer power and damage giving you can't beat a good Elementalist.

Mega Mouse

(My Elementalist is coming up on 2 years old now and still needed by even 2 old guilds that I used to belong to.)

You realize that's a verrrry old thread right?

Before Nightfall, the role of ele was pretty much Prodigy-HP spamming in PvP and Echo/Renewal MS in PvE(which wasnt very effective).

Now, with Searing Flames, Sandstorm, Stoneflesh Aura etc, eles have much more options in both PvE and PvP, and thus are a joy to play.

Yah the sad thing is the ppl using the pve tank builds in pvp..... theres no point, an E/D is gonna do what in AB? stand still and take over a shrine... hardly just more easy interrupts and another dumb dead fool.

I do know that,but you also know that all these new skills they have put in are just too much, eles used to suck, now they gave them a few skills that are so overpowered everyeone is using them, im expecting a huge skill change and im afraid most the godly nightfall skill that everyone is using will get nerfed so bad they will go to the unused bin.

Eles might stay with 1 or 2 decent skills and that will be it,after the nerf we will see how things really are and i didnt really put the link to show how bad eles are, that thread is just a good read.Sorry if it seemed like that was the idea.

Also about the ele hate, you gotta think of it in this way, you can have 8 people in your group 2 of them are gonna be monks 2 of them are gonna be warrior ( or atleast melee) people will want an interupter (ranger or mesmer) also they might want a trapper or spirit ranger ,for winter for example, they could just as easy carry it themselfs but no, they want a player that do only thing they care about is that he has spirit X.

Paragons are like ubergods in my opinion ( yeah yeah i might be making it bigger then it is, but its how i see them) i see them kinda like rangers cause of the ranger with monk skills and defense shouts, i mean wow thats 3 or 4 classes into 1.

But even after all this i still dont see this so huge ele hate that you are talking about i mean normally people think of a group ( especially pugs) they want 2 monk 2 wars 2 nukers and 2 whateverelse.

Also with the adition of heroes players have went into hiding when it comes to playing with other people, so basicly if your a monk, of course who woudnt want you.Eles might just not be at a priority cause players believe a hero ele can do as good of a job as a human ele ( yeah , they forget when the hero eles cast MS when the last target out of a group of 6 is at 10% hp)

People complain when eles do not do enough damage and complain when they do. How are we supposed to win exactly? There are counters to every build and when I take my mesmer into, say, Fort Aspenwood or another PvP area I just take Power Block...it shuts them down for 16 seconds giving me time to run away or the team to finish them off. Dervishes have Avatar of Melandru...Immune to conditions so an ele can cast searing flames on them and they wont even flinch.

Quoted for truth.

I was running a NF character back to Shing Jea. Sousuke used Meteor Shower on the level 0 Mantid Hatchling outside Seitung Harbor. >.<

Back on-topic...I play an ele myself...she's my first and favourite character. I generally have no problems getting into a group especially in Tyria and Cantha where it seems there are a surprising number of people who adopt an "I will not have heros in my group" policy - even if there are no monks around. Sometimes I get people telling me I'm not doing enough damage..."what? you think I blink and everything magically dies? evidently you don't see the numbers coming off my screen..." What annoys me more is when another player tells me what my build should be...I have learnt my lesson now...I nod and say yes then do what I want/know will work. As was the case with another ele who insisted I take Water Trident to interrupt spells...It knocks over a moving foe....if they're moving they aint castin spells.

Well,.. Ele's are excellent, and players are bashing them about them sucking in PvE because of a certain skill... searing flames > Haha, kidding. Anyways,

Elementalists are useful in every aspect of the game. I also noticed MANY new solo builds use sliver armor, or elementalist skills to farm large groups of monsters. They also own in PvP ... searing flames...

I rofled my toffle at that


About the overpowered part, its just the overall feeling right now, yes i also hate SF but im not saying nerf it to the litterbox, but i didnt get the impresion you were mad at me, just using my post to explain your opinions.


Water Trident for interupting skills :[

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Waitaminutetherebuddy! I thought at the meeting we all agreed to hate wammos!
Anyway, besides the overdramatics of your post, I honestly haven't seen much ele hate out there. Before NF I saw a lot of "ele's aren't strong enough" threads, but those seem to have disappeared(and I haven't gone looking). I personally enjoy having an ele on the team, as when I monk I get to sit back and watch the destruction from a good seat.

As for people not playing them because they are weak, for me it was a playstyle thing. I play monk and ranger, but I couldn't get into ele and mesmer(though I do eventually want to get those out of pre because I want the experience). I finally started a necro and I swear never to touch a warrior(don't have the mentality), but its all about the way I play. Not about the amount of armor.

But that's just my two cents

Eles rule... Simple as that.. I mean, what is more fun then burning things to a crisp?
I reckon eles were a bit underpowered at first, especially with the ai update in which AoE damage got kinda screwed.. But they got skills like sand storm and SF in return (nice deal..)
The paper they have on as armor is not really usefull, but a 80 armor ele would just be way to overpowered I enjoyed playing my ele like I enjoy playing all my classes. Every single class in GW has it's charm, you just need to figure out what it is ^^

I don't get the point, people don't think eles suck I don't get your whole point the only proffesion where everyone whines about is the assasin, they have a problem with getting groups.

Eles are fine

The thing is, for damage dealing, they're not what they are cracked up to be. Even in PvE. Searing Flames has revitalized them, and while I wouldn't really mind the skill getting looked at by Anet, any big change and you're back to spamming heal party.

Elementists are NOT craps...It's player behind them that's crap!

Elementist have 5 trees, but most players only use 2..

Eles own and win this game

I play a Monk and she gets a lot of guff from groups... Things like, "omg ur a 55munk arnt u n00b?" and "the only thing munks r goot 4 is meatshield lol."

Assassins have it worse than any class in the game, however. When I play on my Monk, I usually try and find at least one SinX to help out in a mission, because no one else will.

Anyways, yes. This is in the incorrect section. This needs to be moved or something.