So i really want to play guild wars but when i rang EB games they said they only have the original guild wars.. no expansions or anything, so do you think its worth getting it? As soon as they get the 2 expansions in stock i will probably get them but that could be in a while.
Thnx in advance.
Is it worth just buying the original?
Citnarf
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if you like the skills, armor, weapons, and i guess titles.
Curse You
The problem you have is due to the fact that Guild Wars has no expansions. What it does have is 3 different games.
If you plan on doing competitive PvP in Guild Wars, then owning all campaigns is a must.
If you plan on doing competitive PvP in Guild Wars, then owning all campaigns is a must.
Angel Netherborn
Might be better to start in Nightfall first, since Prophecies can be somewhat deserted at certain points. But... EB games isn't the only place carrying GW, is it?
Zonzai
Personally, if you want to play PvE, I think Prophecies is the best. It's less tedious and less frustrating than the other two.
If you want to play PvP you probably need to get them all, or buy one and then buy the skill unlocks at the online store.
If you want to play PvP you probably need to get them all, or buy one and then buy the skill unlocks at the online store.
erick5876
Wellp, depends on what you are looking for in Guild Wars. If you are looking for a long story, and lots of missions, go with Prophecies. It gives you the 5 base professions, all the core skills and some exclusive ones. The armor there is just as functional as any other chapter. If you get the GOTY edition (or purchase the 5$ upgrade after you buy the game), you can get some pretty nice weapons and off-hands too. It's a fairly nice balance of PvE and PvP content. Factions gave a lot more content to the PvP side, and NightFall added a whole lot to the PvE side. I feel it bears mentioning that many sources (including IGN) have said that NightFall is the best release so far, and quite possibly the best place to jump in. Don't let that, however, discourage you from diving into Prophecies. A lot of people still play it.
Roshi_ikkyu
Citnarf, I take it your coming from the asia-pacific area, talking about EB.
GW doesn't have expansions because the games are called stand alone chapters.
And EB can get the newer chapters in. (I know from experience).
But on to the real question. You can buy the latest chapter and miss the first two, But in all honesty it would be like watch the last Lord of the rings movie with out seeing the first two.
Lol if you haven't seen lord of the rings yet, replace it with one of the Harry Potter films, or even star wars.
You can play the game just fine, but there will be elements that you missing out on.
GW doesn't have expansions because the games are called stand alone chapters.
And EB can get the newer chapters in. (I know from experience).
But on to the real question. You can buy the latest chapter and miss the first two, But in all honesty it would be like watch the last Lord of the rings movie with out seeing the first two.
Lol if you haven't seen lord of the rings yet, replace it with one of the Harry Potter films, or even star wars.
You can play the game just fine, but there will be elements that you missing out on.
Citnarf
Ok thanks for all your replies i will go and pick it up, and i do love PvE probably as much as PvP so will i get to do like ANY pvp at all or will i have to go buy the expansions before i can really PvP?
Curse You
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It gives you the 5 base professions, all the core skills and some exclusive ones.
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Ok thanks for all your replies i will go and pick it up, and i do love PvE probably as much as PvP so will i get to do like ANY pvp at all or will i have to go buy the expansions before i can really PvP?
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vojnik
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Wellp, depends on what you are looking for in Guild Wars. If you are looking for a long story, and lots of missions, go with Prophecies. It gives you the 5 base professions, all the core skills and some exclusive ones. The armor there is just as functional as any other chapter. .
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Citnarf
Woot EB just rang me back and said that they have nightfall in there back room and they put them both away for me 
only one i will need to get now will be factions but EB games doesnt sell that anymore.
Hand of Ruin
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Woot EB just rang me back and said that they have nightfall in there back room and they put them both away for me
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Nightfall and Factions were designed with the idea that most people who buy them will already be experienced players who have been playing prophecies. Thus, the end-game areas are much more challenging, and a first time player will probably have extreme difficulty with the end-game areas in Nightfall, without the help of a competant and experienced team, but with the introduction of Heroes, this becomes more difficult to find. So it would be a good idea to find a decent guild, which may take some time, but it will be worth it once you get one.
So, I suggest you play prophecies first. Try out some different professions, at least get to Droknar's forge, and try to absorb as much as you can from other players, and even maybe the AI monsters. If you notice a particular monster is very challanging, pay attention to the skills it uses.
One more thing, http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Main_Page is a players best friend. Bookmark it and use it often.
realoddsman
I can't believe people are recommending getting Prophesies as the first to the series...
Nightfall offers the most polished content, along with providing the longest replayability factor and allowing the best synergy with the previous chapters.
The PRIMARY reason to get Nightfall first is because of the heroes.
The Primary reason to get Prophs first according to most of you is because its slower?... um ok. Prophesies is larger sure... but that doesnt mean the content is better compared to the current line.
The only reason to get prophesies right now is for general completion, and comparably moderate elites. Getting Factions first though, would be the biggest mistake since you will be absolutely alone by the last 5 missions.
Nightfall offers the most polished content, along with providing the longest replayability factor and allowing the best synergy with the previous chapters.
The PRIMARY reason to get Nightfall first is because of the heroes.
The Primary reason to get Prophs first according to most of you is because its slower?... um ok. Prophesies is larger sure... but that doesnt mean the content is better compared to the current line.
The only reason to get prophesies right now is for general completion, and comparably moderate elites. Getting Factions first though, would be the biggest mistake since you will be absolutely alone by the last 5 missions.
Hand of Ruin
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I can't believe people are recommending getting Prophesies as the first to the series...
Nightfall offers the most polished content, along with providing the longest replayability factor and allowing the best synergy with the previous chapters. The PRIMARY reason to get Nightfall first is because of the heroes. The Primary reason to get Prophs first according to most of you is because its slower?... um ok. Prophesies is larger sure... but that doesnt mean the content is better compared to the current line. The only reason to get prophesies right now is for general completion, and comparably moderate elites. Getting Factions first though, would be the biggest mistake since you will be absolutely alone by the last 5 missions. |
Knowing what you're talking about FTW.
FoxBat
Not that many, really depends on the time of day.
Roshi_ikkyu
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Woot EB just rang me back and said that they have nightfall in there back room and they put them both away for me
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They may not have it and are just too lazy to do anything about it.
FelixCarter
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GW doesn't have expansions because the games are called stand alone chapters.
But on to the real question. You can buy the latest chapter and miss the first two, But in all honesty it would be like watch the last Lord of the rings movie with out seeing the first two. |
"Chapter" is not the official, preferred term any more. ArenaNet wants to avoid the impression that the campaigns are in any sequential order. However, if you play through Nightfall, you'll see that they are in a specific order. They're not really stand-alone... We just like to pretend they are.
And yeah... Factions is usually dead towards the later missions. It's a great game, and if you don't mind using Henchies then you'll be fine.
Shadow of Light
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I can't believe people are recommending getting Prophesies as the first to the series...
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If I get Nightfall, I can only play as a Paragon or Dervish.
But if I get Prophecies, I can play as a Warrior, Ranger, Monk, Necromancer, Elementalist or Mesmer.
There are many other factors, but Prophecies will really give you more value for your money. And it's the best campaign to 'start' with, IMO.
RTSFirebat
I never really saw the three GW games as stand-alone, but then again I have all 3 of them linked together and so I just see them as one big game.
Anyways to answer the OP, considering Chapter 1 is so cheap now, I'd recommend getting the Game of the Year Edition and going with that.
Anyways to answer the OP, considering Chapter 1 is so cheap now, I'd recommend getting the Game of the Year Edition and going with that.
awitelin
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Hmm... let me think...
If I get Nightfall, I can only play as a Paragon or Dervish. But if I get Prophecies, I can play as a Warrior, Ranger, Monk, Necromancer, Elementalist or Mesmer. |
Prophecies just happens to only have the 6 core professions.
Vinraith
Prophecies (the original campaign) is a great time all by itself in PvE.
Express2022
If you Choose a Game Take this into consideration....
Nightfall: Allows You To Command Up To 4 Heroes, which will be Very Useful in the Other 2 Chapters.
Prophecies: Gives You the 6 Core Profession, and Alot of Skills to play with
Factions: Has A lot of Places to Powerlevel - Most Missions are Worth 3,000 Exp. This Game Also has alot of skills to play with aswell
My Opinion: Get Nightfall First, and level all your heroes to 20. Then Get Either Factions or Prophecies. By Having lvl 20 heroes that are fully customized, It'll be REALLY Easy to complete either Prophecies or Factions.
Nightfall: Allows You To Command Up To 4 Heroes, which will be Very Useful in the Other 2 Chapters.
Prophecies: Gives You the 6 Core Profession, and Alot of Skills to play with
Factions: Has A lot of Places to Powerlevel - Most Missions are Worth 3,000 Exp. This Game Also has alot of skills to play with aswell
My Opinion: Get Nightfall First, and level all your heroes to 20. Then Get Either Factions or Prophecies. By Having lvl 20 heroes that are fully customized, It'll be REALLY Easy to complete either Prophecies or Factions.
Ninna
I recommend NF first if you like PVE
Prophecies is decent for skills and lots of different landscapes, but most the game is orientated towards under 20
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If you get NF or Factions - each have 8 professions
Prophecies has only 6
Prophecies is decent for skills and lots of different landscapes, but most the game is orientated towards under 20
Also,
If you get NF or Factions - each have 8 professions
Prophecies has only 6
bow user thing
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If you Choose a Game Take this into consideration....
Nightfall: Allows You To Command Up To 4 Heroes, which will be Very Useful in the Other 2 Chapters. Prophecies: Gives You the 6 Core Profession, and Alot of Skills to play with Factions: Has A lot of Places to Powerlevel - Most Missions are Worth 3,000 Exp. This Game Also has alot of skills to play with aswell My Opinion: Get Nightfall First, and level all your heroes to 20. Then Get Either Factions or Prophecies. By Having lvl 20 heroes that are fully customized, It'll be REALLY Easy to complete either Prophecies or Factions. |
I doubt he'll be able to access decent skills on his heroes given the NF skills and just core skills(some are decent but still you can't get something like Heal other in NF)
Prophecies is probably the best one to go with having the most diverse land compared to the other two campaigns and giving you a longer story line that you don't have to grind to go though, only problem is you have to wait along time to get max armor. IMO this campaign offers the best skills.
Nightfall does have the heroes but they can be rather annoying to set up and they can be buggy with the skill sets you give them sometimes(Steady Stance/ Drunken Blow anyone?). They removed the grind to get rank 7 Sunspear for foreign characters but it still takes a longer time to get to mission from mission as you have to complete quests to even want to start them.
Factions does have alliance battles though(!Kurzicks! vs Luxons) and "mini" other parts of PvP combat like Fort Aspenwood and the Jade Quarry but during the campaign you are required to get 10,000 of one of the sides in order to continue on though the game which isn't that hard, if you don't like doing PvP much you can do quests to get faction for either side. I think the intro to Factions is also one of the better ones which shows you most of the basics of playing the game.
I'd say beat Prophecies with two or so characters then go on to Factions and once you have decent skills unlocked go to Nightfall and put them on your heroes, but if you are going to buy both Nightfall and Prophecies, go to Lions Arch and get Olais then go to Nightfall and get Koss, Melonai, and Dunkoro and take them to Prophecies and beat the game with those heroes but Melonai won't come in use much unless you unlock some Dervish skills.
Just my two cents=o
kitsune23
I'd recommend Prophecies first if nothing else for the questable skill unlocks. The slower pace of levelling isn't bad the first time through, and he can always bump over to Elona and get a good chuck of his heros when he hits Lion's Arch.
Titan Chrae
I have all three chapters. I still play Prophecies the most. The Prophecies community is alive and well. If you are planning on getting them all...I'd start with the original.
freekedoutfish
The answer is.
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES.
Factions and Nightfall pail in comparison to Prophercies!!!!
Now the reason why....
It may take longer to do and you may have to work for your lvl and your armor and your weapons and your secondaries, but its satisfying.
You'l def find less people compared to the new campaigns I expect. But factions is suffering worst out of both from that.
But if you want to earn any respect from long-term players who have been around for 2 years, then you need to take a new char all through Prophercies or people wont accept you for being a true lvl20.
Or I wouldnt :P
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES.
Factions and Nightfall pail in comparison to Prophercies!!!!
Now the reason why....
- More then 20 missions, I think around 24 or 25.
- Great story (a bit patchy, but good).
- Far better character development (it takes 3/4 of the game to reach lvl20, reach max weapons and max armor).
- You have to undergo challenges to change your secondary profession and its free once you do.
- It feels rewarding to reach lvl20 and ascend.
- A far great and larger map to explore.
- A decent progression in creature lvl to fight.
- A diverse environment ranging from countryside, desolation, snow, forest, jungle, desert to lava etc.
- Missions which are far more intelligent then just hacking and slashing. Puzzles to solve.
- Diverse armor which is different between each class of profession (i.e. fire elementals have different armor to water elementals and so on).
It may take longer to do and you may have to work for your lvl and your armor and your weapons and your secondaries, but its satisfying.
You'l def find less people compared to the new campaigns I expect. But factions is suffering worst out of both from that.
But if you want to earn any respect from long-term players who have been around for 2 years, then you need to take a new char all through Prophercies or people wont accept you for being a true lvl20.
Or I wouldnt :P
darkdawn
You can manege to play PvP owning only one campaign, I did that for a month. I don't say i was unbeatable but still. Of course you don't have acces to AB unless you own faction(wich is, along with the skills and 2 other prof, the only reason ppl still buy it).
mqstout
Prophecies is the best of the 3 campaigns.
Cold
Prophecies ftw
People who suggest to start with Nightfall has never been to pre-searing. I know many people who have actually never left it
It's an amazing place.
I played through Factions and Nightfall and then I run some guy from LA to Ascalon. I really forgot how huge Tyria is. If you just run from Ascalon to ToA, then down to desert, and then from Droknar thought missions to Ring of Fire... oops you just missed around 70 percent of the map if not 80.
More then a year ago I started with my monk, went all the way throught all missions, bought all armors on the way, even got collector's armor in Cristal Desert before I finally arrived to Droknar to discover even better armor. That was fun. There were lots of people, not like now in Nightfall or Factions. You could actually find people of the same level doing some secondary quests. But new campaigns are all around getting to level 20 as quickly as possible and then... well, nothing really, no sense of progression, no sense of achievement, get armor, buy greens and go play PvP.
People who suggest to start with Nightfall has never been to pre-searing. I know many people who have actually never left it
It's an amazing place.I played through Factions and Nightfall and then I run some guy from LA to Ascalon. I really forgot how huge Tyria is. If you just run from Ascalon to ToA, then down to desert, and then from Droknar thought missions to Ring of Fire... oops you just missed around 70 percent of the map if not 80.
More then a year ago I started with my monk, went all the way throught all missions, bought all armors on the way, even got collector's armor in Cristal Desert before I finally arrived to Droknar to discover even better armor. That was fun. There were lots of people, not like now in Nightfall or Factions. You could actually find people of the same level doing some secondary quests. But new campaigns are all around getting to level 20 as quickly as possible and then... well, nothing really, no sense of progression, no sense of achievement, get armor, buy greens and go play PvP.
FeuerFrei
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Prophecies ftw
People who suggest to start with Nightfall has never been to pre-searing. I know many people who have actually never left it It's an amazing place.I played through Factions and Nightfall and then I run some guy from LA to Ascalon. I really forgot how huge Tyria is. If you just run from Ascalon to ToA, then down to desert, and then from Droknar thought missions to Ring of Fire... oops you just missed around 70 percent of the map if not 80. More then a year ago I started with my monk, went all the way throught all missions, bought all armors on the way, even got collector's armor in Cristal Desert before I finally arrived to Droknar to discover even better armor. That was fun. There were lots of people, not like now in Nightfall or Factions. You could actually find people of the same level doing some secondary quests. But new campaigns are all around getting to level 20 as quickly as possible and then... well, nothing really, no sense of progression, no sense of achievement, get armor, buy greens and go play PvP. |
ahhhh.....the good old pre-searing days...id also suggest prophecies but i may just be bias
Enchanted Warrior
Prophecies is SLOW in levelling. If you want a quick path get factions. You can hit level 20 in a few days.
Clerihew
I think you should get Prophecies. Of course I am probably biased as I started in there (the other games not being out then) but if you love a traditional fantasy setting then go for it. I also think it serves a good introduction to GW in general.
And, of course, if you don't get it you will miss out on lovely pre searing. Ahhhhhhhhhh.
I also think there is a satisfaction to be gained for a PvE player from playing the game through in a linear fashion.
And, of course, if you don't get it you will miss out on lovely pre searing. Ahhhhhhhhhh.
I also think there is a satisfaction to be gained for a PvE player from playing the game through in a linear fashion.
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Prophecies is SLOW in levelling. If you want a quick path get factions. You can hit level 20 in a few days.
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NightFall has a slower learning curb but is faster than Prophecies... Overall though most people will suggest Nightfall or Prophecies for the PVE oriented player. Factions is geared more towards PvP. However if you are TOTALLY geared toward PvP you will want to get Prophecies since most builds are still centered around most of the core skills. But hardcore PvP grouping will require getting all the chapters. However I think GW is supposed to be coming out with a PvP only one (dunno where that stands if it still does).
There is a guide in the works to help people decide on which chapter to pick up, but it is awaiting approval by the mods. -_-
I recommend Prophecies for its complete map diversity and sheer staying power as it keeps most people coming back. Nightfall falls in second and in my opinion (which is my own and no one elses) I wish I had never gotten Factions -_-
Shadow of Light
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Huh? No, the Prophecies six are core professions. You can be any of those with Nightfall only, along with the Paragon or Dervish. 8 options.
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Well, I'd still take Prophecies. Pre-searing ftw, hehe.
Worthington
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The answer is.
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES. Factions and Nightfall pail in comparison to Prophercies!!!! Now the reason why....
It may take longer to do and you may have to work for your lvl and your armor and your weapons and your secondaries, but its satisfying. You'l def find less people compared to the new campaigns I expect. But factions is suffering worst out of both from that. But if you want to earn any respect from long-term players who have been around for 2 years, then you need to take a new char all through Prophercies or people wont accept you for being a true lvl20. Or I wouldnt :P |