Multiple copies of the same hero.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Add the feature to game to add multiple copies of the same hero. Example: play heroes' battles with a full team of Paragons, or full team of Elementalists, Necros, whatever, or 2 Paragons heroes, 2 Ritualist heroes, etc, etc, etc.

(I am not sure if this idea is already here in forum, I searched and see nothing)

Helcaraxe

Helcaraxe

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

On top of a mountain

A Bad Moon Rising [Moon]

Me/Mo

no... just no... bad idea

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

We already have duplicate warriors, eles, necros, and rangers. Leave some room for heros from future campaigns, I think (I do however think that having 3 hero eles available would be a bad idea...)

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

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4 mesmers will eat your eyes

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Helcaraxe
no... just no... bad idea
Why?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy High
We already have duplicate warriors, eles, necros, and rangers. Leave some room for heros from future campaigns, I think (I do however think that having 3 hero eles available would be a bad idea...)
future campaigns? you mean wait for a new chapter and "hope" they add a new Paragon hero? no thanks.

Warriors, eles, necros, and rangers? I wanna play Heroes' Battles with a full team of the same primary profession, what problem you see in that? You can do it everywhere with real people, why not with heroes?
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Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
4 mesmers will eat your eyes
You partially can do that right now, being you a mesmer + mesmer hero, + 2 eles/mesmer with mesmer skills.

Not A Fifty Five

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Creating guild

Mo/

I honestly don't know why they do this. I agree with the OP adamantly. Anet's so weird sometimes o.O

Quote:
Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
4 mesmers will eat your eyes

Yeah no monk. durrrrrrrrrrr. screw that comment

Also, you can theoretically have 3 of the same class for say eles or warriors, but what if you wanna be the monk? Hero monks suck, what if I wanna be the monk and have 3 ele heroes?

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Im not a PvP'er, so Ill assume you have the same choice of henches and heroes as PvE people. Cant you have up to about 3-4 AI of each professions by using two Heros and two henches of the same class?

In PvE you could have AI of up to 4 monks, 4 warriors, 4 elementals, etc etc etc. Doesnt the same apply to PvP and render this a mute thread?

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

Hero Battles are 3 Heros +you, no henchies avialable.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenex Xclame
Hero Battles are 3 Heros +you, no henchies avialable.
That allows for you + 2 Heroes of the same profession, so doesnt that cover what the OP wanted? A team of basically all the same profession?

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

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Yeah, but he wants you +3 heros of same profesion,im thinking along the lines of some spike build or something like that.

GedLongbow

GedLongbow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

A pinapple under the Jade Sea

R/Mo

If you did this you would either nerf the whole game or have to add...maybe 20 heroes. No way is this gonna happen. Horrible idea, it'd rig EVERYTHING. Kill the meaning in BALANCED.

Dougal Kronik

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

R/

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Play with real players in TA, or play Hero battles with up to 3 Rangers, Monks, Warriors, Necromancers, or Elementalists.

Not A Fifty Five

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Creating guild

Mo/

I rly don't see why there's so much hostility to this... People seem to think 3 heroes of the same type is overpowering?????? How is say a monk and 3 eles overpowering in ta? This is just weird.

Rakeman

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Not A Fifty Five
I rly don't see why there's so much hostility to this... People seem to think 3 heroes of the same type is overpowering?????? How is say a monk and 3 eles overpowering in ta? This is just weird.
I agree with what you are saying... in PvE, you can have multiple of the same hero with multiple people (example: if I equip Koss and my friend does, her Koss is renamed Sunspear Warrior). They could do something like that. The only problem I see with this is that the heroes would have all the same skills and equipment, unless some new mechanic was added in. Like you say, right now you can be an ele, have 2 eles, and a monk, but you can't BE a monk and have 3 eles.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by GedLongbow
If you did this you would either nerf the whole game or have to add...maybe 20 heroes. No way is this gonna happen. Horrible idea, it'd rig EVERYTHING. Kill the meaning in BALANCED.
Why is unbalanced, for example, play Heroes' Battles with 4 Paragons? WHY? You and me could play with 8 Paragons any mission or GvG with real people, is that unbalanced too?
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Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik
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Play with real players in TA, or play Hero battles with up to 3 Rangers, Monks, Warriors, Necromancers, or Elementalists.
I already can do that, why you tell me something that I know? I created this thread because I want to make different things to that.

Lord Zado

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Dusk

Mo/Me

While I agree we should have access to more than 2 of every profession, I don't think it will happen in this chapter. If you allowed people to just use copies of heroes they already have, they would basically be getting free weapons, runes and insignias that match the copied hero, which is unbalanced.

It could be a Hero battle only thing where you get Zaishen heroes or something that you can equip like a PvP character. That would be the only way to make it work.

As far as PvE goes, the heroes are a fundamental part of the storyline, so the only way to get new heroes in PvE is if ANet worked them into the story...even if it's just some simple quest like getting Sousuke/Jin. I just don't see ANet doing that for this chapter, but there's lots of room for hero expansion in the future and I'm sure they'll use that as a selling point.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Zado
As far as PvE goes, the heroes are a fundamental part of the storyline, so ...
Storyline? Weapons? Runes? not a problem in PvP. About PvE heroes, well, I think is good as already is, you can "fix" the problem using henchies.

I don't see any problem in adding a feature with availability (in PvP) to "re-select" a hero you already have selected in your party, just making a clone with the generic name that already exist, or name it Dunkoro 2, Dunkoro 3, that doesn't matter at all in PvP. I don't think we must wait a full campaign for this "little" feature.

Lord Zado

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Dusk

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by NeHoMaR
Storyline? Weapons? Runes? not a problem in PvP. About PvE heroes, well, I think is good as already is, you can "fix" the problem using henchies.

I don't see any problem in adding a feature with availability (in PvP) to "re-select" a hero you already have selected in your party, just making a clone with the generic name that already exist, or name it Dunkoro 2, Dunkoro 3, that doesn't matter at all in PvP. I don't think we must wait a full campaign for this "little" feature.
I did say....

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Zado
It could be a Hero battle only thing where you get Zaishen heroes or something that you can equip like a PvP character. That would be the only way to make it work.
This would be a more refined solution than Dunkoro 2, Dunkoro 3 and it's exactly what you are asking for.

NeHoMaR

NeHoMaR

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Well, I know GW developers actually play this game, and also read this forum; I am happy for that! You don't get that advantage with other games So, I expect a developer playing HB and thinking: Man! I need another Paragon here for the build I want! and seriously think in adding something in the next patch.