I am running a warrior/dervish with max strength, and I have a free slot for a 5-energy attack on my bar. My choices:
Power Attack - 5 energy, 4 sec recharge. Deal +31 dmg.
Counterattack - 5 energy, 4 sec recharge. Deal +32 dmg. If enemy is attacking, gain 6 energy.
They made a Core Skill which is already very underused be completely throwaway in Nightfall. I believe it is past-due for a buff. Faster recharge, lower energy cost, or a good bit more damage.
The alternative is to nerf Counterattack, but although the skill is *great* I don't think it's overpowered.
(I hope this hasn't been discussed before; if it has, my bad.)
Power Attack in desperate need of a buff
Sciros Darkblade
Sarevok Thordin
Counter attack is conditional,
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Jetdoc
Are you running with a 16 Strength? Wow.
Before that, Power Attack does 1-2 more damage than Counterattack at every attribute level.
Before that, Power Attack does 1-2 more damage than Counterattack at every attribute level.
False Truth
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Counter attack is conditional,
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mlandry
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Counter attack is conditional,
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Counter attack does +1 damage compared to power attack (UNCONDITIONAL) and THEN the energy gain is conditional
so even without filling the condition, it does more damage than power attack
Bale_Shadowscar
Yeah, I can see no reason to take Power Attack over Counterattack at 16 Strength.
Diddy bow
it defenetly deos so deos power shot imo :/
Dutch Masterr
in my opinion, you shouldnt be using power attack in the first place...there are much more usefull skills that could be used in its place. for example, if running an axe you could use furious axe or critical chop or if using a sword you could use pure strike. since its strength oriented, bulls strike would be great as a utility.
False Truth
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Originally Posted by Dutch Masterr
in my opinion, you shouldnt be using power attack in the first place...there are much more usefull skills that could be used in its place. for example, if running an axe you could use furious axe or critical chop or if using a sword you could use pure strike. since its strength oriented, bulls strike would be great as a utility.
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XvArchonvX
Power attack is simply just another skill that only merits use on a really low character that doesn't yet have any better skills. Once you get past lvl 5, there's not really any reason to use power attack just like many other skills (i.e. Power Shot, Point Blank Shot, etc.)
Crom The Pale
Actually Power attack is fine as it is, you just take both for a high dmg combo that nets you some energy return.
If your taking a handfull of adren attacks and 2 energy attacks power is viable.
Giving it a 2sec recharge would make it an elite skill, imo, and increasing the dmg would be unbalanced with its cost.
The only change I could see to it would be to increase its speed, make it a 1/2 sec attack so it can be combo'd with other attack skills in a nice chain spike.
If your taking a handfull of adren attacks and 2 energy attacks power is viable.
Giving it a 2sec recharge would make it an elite skill, imo, and increasing the dmg would be unbalanced with its cost.
The only change I could see to it would be to increase its speed, make it a 1/2 sec attack so it can be combo'd with other attack skills in a nice chain spike.
Curse You
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Power Attack
If this attack hits, you strike for +10...26 damage. |
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Counterattack
If this attack hits, you strike for +5...25 damage. If you hit an attacking foe, you gain 2...5 Energy. |
AnnaCloud9
Power Attack is a basic core skill. It's meant to be used prior to you obtaining better skills. And yes, there are plenty better skills.
If it were to be buffed...why would anyone feel the need to go after better skills? This is true for all classes as well. It'd be like ele's complaining about how Flare isn't balanced with Immolation. It is, and it's called Fireball (without the burning of course, but much more damage). So go get yourself some new skills
No, Power Attack should stay as is.
If it were to be buffed...why would anyone feel the need to go after better skills? This is true for all classes as well. It'd be like ele's complaining about how Flare isn't balanced with Immolation. It is, and it's called Fireball (without the burning of course, but much more damage). So go get yourself some new skills
No, Power Attack should stay as is.
Yichi
why on earth would u EVER run max strength over max weapon mastery ill never understand...
leprekan
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why on earth would u EVER run max strength over max weapon mastery ill never understand...
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**slams more coffee with taped fingers**
crimsonfilms
16 strength???
Not only you have max strength but you actually have a superior rune for strength :/
You want ANet to fix it? Don't use it.
Didn't we vote already that Strength is one of the most worthless attribute line in all of GW?
Not only you have max strength but you actually have a superior rune for strength :/
You want ANet to fix it? Don't use it.
Didn't we vote already that Strength is one of the most worthless attribute line in all of GW?
leprekan
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16 strength???
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TheUndertaker
I've always thought power attack should be adrenaline based, since there are no adrenaline based strength attack skills.
And if you ask why one would ever be needed......*gasp* someone might be a warrior primary and attack with a weapon that isn't a sword, axe or hammer.
And if you ask why one would ever be needed......*gasp* someone might be a warrior primary and attack with a weapon that isn't a sword, axe or hammer.
ss1986v2
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I wouldn't run a sup strength either but ... 10 in strength giving 10% armor penetration .. how is making someones armor 10% less effective worthless?
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now, the real benefit of strength is the plethora of skills in the line. thats why running say 9 or 11 in strength is a good idea. yes, you add a little bit of dmg but you gain access to some really nice skills.
crimsonfilms
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I wouldn't run a sup strength either but ... 10 in strength giving 10% armor penetration .. how is making someones armor 10% less effective worthless?
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I am not saying 10% AP or 10 strength is absolutely useless but you need to consider what you gain and what you will lose.
I also put anywhere from 4 to 11 on strength in most warrior builds. But it is unlikely because I want 4-11% AP.
warriorsmiley
Power attack is quite the useless skill maybe a 3/4 or 1/2 activation will make you want to run this over counterattack. At 10 strength counter is +22 and power is +23 not a big differnce...but counter gives you the energy for skill back now which would you choose?
Jeremy Untouchable
useless att line, really good skills
death fuzzy
half of you idiots dont even realise that he didnt choose dervish as his secondary for no reason.
on topic. On my un-buffed w/d hero, i just stick to power attack for the +1 damage with 12 str.
power attack does not need a buff. If youre smart enough to use a better skill then use it.
on topic. On my un-buffed w/d hero, i just stick to power attack for the +1 damage with 12 str.
power attack does not need a buff. If youre smart enough to use a better skill then use it.
Grasping Darkness
try power attack and counterattack with wild blow and warriors endurance :P it's what im running on my koss... when i have to use him
Div
power attack is awesome. there's nothing like chopping thru charr with it on a monk with warrior secondary ^ ^
Former Ruling
Power Attack (just like Power Shot/Several other PreSearing skills) are meant to be bad beginner skills that you eventually discard after buying the better ones. (Remember, before Factions trainers didn't even offer unlocked skills for you, so PvE's had to progress through the quality of skills they had access too)
This is a common thing. Anet decided to drop this to a degree with its other chapters in favor of a "get most stuff in the first city you visit, and get lvl20 before leaving newb area" type process.
This is a common thing. Anet decided to drop this to a degree with its other chapters in favor of a "get most stuff in the first city you visit, and get lvl20 before leaving newb area" type process.
pigdestroyer
you use power attack
Iuris
I'd like to comment on the Strenght attribute:
Don't use it for a few extra points of damage from STR based attacks.
DON'T use it for the extra % of armour penetration.
DO use it you want the extra armour from Dolyak signet. The extra running time for Sprint and Enraging charge. The extra health from Endure pain. Those skills are what you want strenght for.
Don't use it for a few extra points of damage from STR based attacks.
DON'T use it for the extra % of armour penetration.
DO use it you want the extra armour from Dolyak signet. The extra running time for Sprint and Enraging charge. The extra health from Endure pain. Those skills are what you want strenght for.
hidden_agenda
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I'd like to comment on the Strenght attribute:
Don't use it for a few extra points of damage from STR based attacks. DON'T use it for the extra % of armour penetration. DO use it you want the extra armour from Dolyak signet. The extra running time for Sprint and Enraging charge. The extra health from Endure pain. Those skills are what you want strenght for. |
I kinda like the fact that I hit Dolyak and could stand in the middle of a bunch of level 24s and take single digit damages...
Winstar
power attack? there is a thread about power attack?
Winstar
power attack? there is a thread about power attack?
Age
Power Attack is good for all weapons if you are going to use it that as a strengh build or tanking build but the best damage comes from your weapon mastery skill line.I would suggest going in the direction and forget about Power Attack I wished the same could said for Stefan.
kvndoom
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Originally Posted by Winstar
power attack? there is a thread about power attack?
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