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ixia

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

N/Mo

I cant make it to the chaos planes could you post a few more pics on how to get there? After killing smites i usually try and make it there somehow i always end up confronting 2 blackness grps is this normal?From step 4 the 4th pic im lost after that i iknow i crossed a bridge and actually eneded up in a few dead ends any help is welcomed thank you

ibex333

ibex333

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brooklyn, NY

[EYE]

Rt/A

Ok... I got a "noob" question. Dont the smites scatter from vengeful?

None of the videos show you or anyone else killing the "huge black minotaurs" in the beginning... or the dying nightmares... Can you even kill those? or you just skip em?

I wish someone would post a video of you getting from the very beginning to the smites without skipping any parts. With the actual running to them and all that. I havent done UW in ages since it was possible with a SOJ monk.

Also, what weapons are you using?

Sir Twisteh

Sir Twisteh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Dreaming Angels [DA]

W/N

I can't make it to the Chaos Plains either.. I can make it to entrace of the chaos plains but theres always like 5 benemoths and at least 3 charging darkness.. i just get spiked down :S Tips? Help! :S

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

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Just cast "resilent weapon" and run past the 2 charged blacknesses and get lucky . Do not run to close to the Behemoth's (or something), you will be trapped. Run past them at the right side (the behemoth's infront of the entrance). When you know the route to the chaos plains, and you are fast (because you know the route), then you are faster then the 2 charged blacknesses, and they are not infront of the entrance

Good luck

Witte Was

Witte Was

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

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jbwarrior is totally right. Make sure you've reached the entrance faster then the Charged Blacknesses

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Witte Was
jbwarrior is totally right. Make sure you've reached the entrance faster then the Charged Blacknesses Thank you Witte, couldn't do it without your help before

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

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I'll will put wdnesday a picture, that starts from point 4 on witte's first page, so then you guys all know

Sir Twisteh

Sir Twisteh

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Dreaming Angels [DA]

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Thanks guys, finally made it

ibex333

ibex333

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Brooklyn, NY

[EYE]

Rt/A

wow.. thanx for answering my question above! *sarcasm*

Witte Was

Witte Was

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ibex333
wow.. thanx for answering my question above! *sarcasm* First thing you do is taking the quest from the Ghost. Run back and lure 1 group of the Grasping Darknesses. Make sure to cast VwK AFTER Bonetti's Defense. Repeat this with the other groups.

Now all the doors should open (you don't kill the bulls) Run to the Smites.
I don't have a video of it but I think the Youtube links at the first page should show the run. I hope this helps you out

Witte Was / Dave Tawings

Stixxx

Stixxx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Quote:
Originally Posted by ibex333
Ok... I got a "noob" question. Dont the smites scatter from vengeful?

None of the videos show you or anyone else killing the "huge black minotaurs" in the beginning... or the dying nightmares... Can you even kill those? or you just skip em?

I wish someone would post a video of you getting from the very beginning to the smites without skipping any parts. With the actual running to them and all that. I havent done UW in ages since it was possible with a SOJ monk.

Also, what weapons are you using? The smites don't scatter if you only lure 1 group.

The huge black minotaurs or Aatxes can't be killed with this build. For the dying nightmares: just cast VwK or vengeful weapon and they kill themselves.

Weapons dont rly matter i think, i use my exalted aegis and a razorstone.

Flightmare

Flightmare

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2006

NL

Infinite Omega Negatives

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stixxx
The smites don't scatter if you only lure 1 group. Groups of 4 or 5 are not uncommon, and 3+ causes scatter.

Kratos Gowar

Kratos Gowar

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Rome

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Do the non-smites monsters drop ecto globes?

Emik

Emik

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Belgium

[FaRM] Farm For The Win

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Is there a definate skillset now?
Cause through all posts i seem to notice 3 different skillsets...

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

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Answers to question´s:

*For the run (including chaos plains and bone pits), smites, banished dreamriders, Mindblade spectres and the dead collectors and treshers drop ecto´s the rest doesn´t drop ecto´s.

* The best build:

1: Resilent weapon
2: VwK
3: Vengeful weapon or Soothing memories
4: Drunken-Desperation Blow
5: Bonetti´s Defence
6: Dolyak Signet
7: Healing Signet
8: Sprint

Smoothing is saver for in the chaos plains, because the spectre´s use "ignorance" so you can´t use healing signet. Also if you have VwK in your hands and you use Sm you gain 3 energy .So this choice is up to you either Vw or Sm (skill 3).

Hopefully I answerd the question´s right for you guys

Greetz,

Mr Jorgen

korcan

korcan

noobalicious

Join Date: Jun 2006

Great build Witte

I was just wondering what the average ecto drop rate is for a smite run? I've done around 15-20 runs in the past week and all I've gotten is 3 ectos.
Does anti-farming code apply for both the UW and FoW considering these areas are meant to be farmed?

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Witte Was

Witte Was

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

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15-20 runs and only 3 ectos?:O well..they are about 10k each now but it's still not much I guess it's bad luck. I don't know much about the anti-farming code but my advise to you is to farm some other easy areas like Witman's Folly or another easy one after you've done like 5-10 runs.

At the moment I'm working on some easy fast money making builds for some specific areas which you can farm when the anti-farm code is applied. So no difficult solo builds but money making farming builds! (some might be already known but whatever) will post them soon

ixia

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

N/Mo

Lol i I finally found the chaos planes didnt know you had to hang a lil left and run down those stairs!yes i always made to that area before blackness come.I just kept venturing into the unkwon lol.Killed the dream rider dam interrupts then got owned by those mind spectres.Any tips on how to take them out?In those pics for smites u have a diff build from the run goin to chaos planes.Do both work in each area?Ok didnt see that post on best build thanks

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

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Hi all,

5 more pic's.

Pic 1: About the ecto drop, you have to be lucky, today I was, 2 ecto's in 1 group

Pic 2 - 4: How to get to the "Chaos Plains" ... starting at the last picture from Witte's first page from step 4
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Pic 5: How to get to "Bone Pits" , as sone as you enter the "Chaos Plains"

I hope this well help all of you, that still didn't managed to get to the "Chaos Plains" and the "Bone Pits"

Cya Guys,

Mr Jorgen

Witte Was

Witte Was

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Perfect thnx jbwarrior! For everyone who didn't found the Chaos Plains yet: you should find it now. (for those who still can't find the way, I'll try to make a movie)

Koning

Koning

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Well, the way itself is very easy, but killing mindblades is a pain in the ass because of all their interrupts. I managed to kill only 1 yet, and i've tried several times. Its most of the time based on luck if you can get VwK+resillent weapon up..

Stixxx

Stixxx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Quote:
Originally Posted by Flightmare
Groups of 4 or 5 are not uncommon, and 3+ causes scatter. i've had plenty of +3 groups and they hardly scatter.
groups of 4 dont scatter, but 5 and up scatter.

if the smites cant keep enough pressure on you they wont scatter either. When u lure a group, there are almost always 3 smites bashing u constantly, while the other one or two scatters to regen.
groups of 4 wont scatter because there is only 1 that can retreat while the others keep taking damage, so eventually 1 will die, and scatter will end.

Kratos Gowar

Kratos Gowar

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Rome

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I'm waiting for a video of the full run, it would be very, very useful ^_^

Batou of Nine

Batou of Nine

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

California, USA

Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")

Mo/E

I been playing around with Witte's build to try and eek out a faster method for just the smite run. Since they use RoF i can't use anything else but the lifestealing skills, so then i thought of the best way to constantly fuel them... I'd like some input about either A) a way to increase my kill rate, or B) additional ways to fuel/spam VwK and Vengeful.

This is what i got so far...

Tactics 12 (9+3)
Strength 10 (9+1)
Restoration 12

[skill]Vengeful Was Khanhei[/skill][skill]Vengeful Weapon[/skill][skill]Bonetti's Defense[/skill][skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill][skill]"To the Limit!"[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Riposte[/skill] -or- [skill]Deadly Riposte[/skill][skill]Signet of Stamina[/skill]

Attributes are for certain breakpoints:: @ 10 Str = 12 second Enraging, @ 12 Tactics = 10 second Bonetti's & 5 Adrenaline "To the Limit!"

It is setup so that i can kill Graspings very fast, and get to the smites quickly. This build is only fast with practice. This build concentrates on being able to constantly fuel Bonetti's, VwK and Vengeful.

For Graspings, you have Riposte to help you increase rate of damage. Only use this in the few seconds of downtime between Bonetti's and VwK. "To the Limit!" is obviously there for adrenaline gain, as well as enraging Charge for emergency adrenaline gain, which in turn is also ur run skill... The timing for skills vs Graspings usually looks like this::

Enraging -> Auto hit (2x) -> Bonnetti's (Get full/close to full energy) -> VwK -> Dolyak (follows VwK closely, increases ur healing intake from VwK) -> "To the Limit!" -> Vengeful spamming (during VwK and afterwards, if Ripostes or Bonetti's are not ready) -> Repeat (starting at Auto hits, Enraging shouldnt be needed too often if at all during the actual fight)

All in all, to increase my dmg the build is setup to gain adrenaline ASAP which in turn can fuel my energy, which in turn lets me spam the dmg skills. With practice the timing chain isnt even needed and you would be able to spam VwK and Vengeful more often. Btw, my gear is:: +5 energy/+30 hp weapon, +12 energy 20 HCT/20 HCR Restoration offhand. This helps you be able to use VwK and Vengeful more often from the higher energy and chance of faster recharges. A +5en^50%hp/20 HCR restoration wand would be good too...

Anyway, as you can see i only have Signet of Stamina for an emergency if i am too low on hp and need a few seconds between VwKs. ***The above pattern is also applicable for smites, but do NOT use Ripostes vs Smites!*** All the skill choices synergize REAL well with eachother like VwK/Dolyak 20 second recharge...

So, there is my variation for the Smite run, which greatly increases my kill time on Graspings (can consistently kill em all in well under 10 min), and a system which helps fuel the dmg skills vs the smites. I have now completed about 15 successful runs with this build since first adjusting it to as it is now... Any more ideas? Btw, thanks to Witte Was for the inspiration (and basically the whole basis of the build, LOL!)

cheers!

Witte Was

Witte Was

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

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That looks pretty....wow. First thing I thought was: no sprint? but I think that's your 8th skill I'm definately going to try this out as soon as possible thanks!

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

I have done this run a lot of times, and it looks like ecto drops aren't so good these days. I kill graspings and then all the smites, and usual ecto drop looks the following: 1 ecto, 0e, 1e, 0e... I'm sure that I kill all the smites, and I do missions or other farming places often, but it isn't better. I'm interested in other farmer's ecto droprates.

Batou of Nine

Batou of Nine

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

California, USA

Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")

Mo/E

i still think its completely random, but Witte Was suggested doing farming/doing a mission after like 10 UW runs, which i think is a good number to aim for.

My rates have been pretty good. Now im not talking 2-3 ecto a run. 1 ecto per run is actually a good rate. I do about 8 runs a day, after which i usually average 5-6 ecto in total. The drop rate for them was never that high, so a rate of 1ecto then zero then 1 then zero is about normal. The people who say they got 2 or more in one run, just happened to get VERY lucky and this freak incident prolly wouldn't happen again to them...

Overall, i just enjoy doing the run and one main reason i go is cause i really want a Gloom Shield out of them darn chests. LoL, not a single one after probly about 60 runs now. haha.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Witte Was
That looks pretty....wow. First thing I thought was: no sprint? but I think that's your 8th skill I'm definately going to try this out as soon as possible thanks! Heh, thx. Not sure what you mean by my "8th skill". You don't need Sprint cause i am using Enraging Charge, which in turn is also a good adrenaline source. That skill is waht you prolly was referring to as the "8th skill"? Anywhoo, ya its still quite safe, and fun!

cheers!

Witte Was

Witte Was

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Batou of Nine
Heh, thx. Not sure what you mean by my "8th skill". You don't need Sprint cause i am using Enraging Charge, which in turn is also a good adrenaline source. That skill is waht you prolly was referring to as the "8th skill"? Anywhoo, ya its still quite safe, and fun!

cheers! oops, I'm still a n00b sometimes ignore what I said about the 8th skill I forgot Enraging Charge.xD

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Batou of Nine
i still think its completely random, but Witte Was suggested doing farming/doing a mission after like 10 UW runs, which i think is a good number to aim for.

My rates have been pretty good. Now im not talking 2-3 ecto a run. 1 ecto per run is actually a good rate. I do about 8 runs a day, after which i usually average 5-6 ecto in total. The drop rate for them was never that high, so a rate of 1ecto then zero then 1 then zero is about normal. The people who say they got 2 or more in one run, just happened to get VERY lucky and this freak incident prolly wouldn't happen again to them...

Overall, i just enjoy doing the run and one main reason i go is cause i really want a Gloom Shield out of them darn chests. LoL, not a single one after probly about 60 runs now. haha.



Heh, thx. Not sure what you mean by my "8th skill". You don't need Sprint cause i am using Enraging Charge, which in turn is also a good adrenaline source. That skill is waht you prolly was referring to as the "8th skill"? Anywhoo, ya its still quite safe, and fun!

cheers! Hm, I just asked because my guildmate said usually 2 ectos per runs, but he hasnt done so much runs. My luckiest run was 3 days ago, 3 ectos in 1 run ^^ (after that 3 runs without ecto lol)

Batou of Nine

Batou of Nine

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

California, USA

Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")

Mo/E

Well, i still use my variation of Witte Was' build. And have gotten quite fast...
My ecto drop rate has stayed at an average of 1 ecto per run, except for 2nights runs!

I usually only do a max of 6 runs a night. And 2night i have done only 3. Out of those 3 this is the ecto drop pattern... 3e . 1e . 2e.

The most freakish statistic i have EVER gotten on UW solo runs ever. 6 ecto after 3 runs? NICE! And i have been doing UW solo since the original 55 days, and never gotten it this nice... farmed 3 more runs. 0e . 0e . 1e.

It was definitly a phenomenon. This will happen again to me in 2 years... LOL!
Cheers!

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Hm, after doing urgoz for 6 hours, I went to do an UW-run, 3 ectos in 1 run. Anti-farm exist? Imo yes. (oh and double drops nearly from all the smites and graspings, what has never happened with me be4)

Hm, the simple Rt/Me run faster than the warrior run?

Koning

Koning

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Batou of Nine

Tactics 12 (9+3)
Strength 10 (9+1)
Restoration 12

[skill]Vengeful Was Khanhei[/skill][skill]Vengeful Weapon[/skill][skill]Bonetti's Defense[/skill][skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill][skill]"To the Limit!"[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Riposte[/skill] -or- [skill]Deadly Riposte[/skill][skill]Signet of Stamina[/skill]
This is also what i've been using since a week or so, To the limit really helps recharging bonnetti's against the smites (I use enraging too lol) so you can spam vengefull weapon which really helps speeding the killing of 3+ smites. On top of that, I also have a restoration focus to give me xtra nrg for even more spamming (I feel the shield isn't really needed because you have dolyak on when vwk is down, and vengefull weapon is healing you or you are in bonnetti's)

Runs take me about 25 min

Koning

Koning

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

lag...........sorry

Familliar Realm

Familliar Realm

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

Tyria

[DARK]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Koning
This is also what i've been using since a week or so, To the limit really helps recharging bonnetti's against the smites (I use enraging too lol) so you can spam vengefull weapon which really helps speeding the killing of 3+ smites. On top of that, I also have a restoration focus to give me xtra nrg for even more spamming (I feel the shield isn't really needed because you have dolyak on when vwk is down, and vengefull weapon is healing you or you are in bonnetti's)

Runs take me about 25 min As I said before, the collector's restoration icon is an excellent offhand (Don't need the shield if you have Dragon/Dread's armor)

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Familliar Realm
As I said before, the collector's restoration icon is an excellent offhand (Don't need the shield if you have Dragon/Dread's armor) Where is this collector located?

M I D G E T S

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by jbwarrior
Where is this collector located? Vasbury Armory for crafter - 5k 150 dust 50 granite.

Koning

Koning

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

i use a restoration focus with -5 20% and +30 hp from a collector in sulufrous wastes, you need 5 sandblasted lodestones.

I also use glads armor so my energy is 44 (dont need dragon/dread's)

Dronte

Dronte

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Is the simple Rt/Me run faster than the warrior version?

DarioLeanza

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

[FAL]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by jbwarrior
Answers to question´s:

*For the run (including chaos plains and bone pits), smites, banished dreamriders, Mindblade spectres and the dead collectors and treshers drop ecto´s the rest doesn´t drop ecto´s.

* The best build:

1: Resilent weapon
2: VwK
3: Vengeful weapon or Soothing memories
4: Drunken-Desperation Blow
5: Bonetti´s Defence
6: Dolyak Signet
7: Healing Signet
8: Sprint

Smoothing is saver for in the chaos plains, because the spectre´s use "ignorance" so you can´t use healing signet. Also if you have VwK in your hands and you use Sm you gain 3 energy .So this choice is up to you either Vw or Sm (skill 3).

Hopefully I answerd the question´s right for you guys

Greetz,

Mr Jorgen I got 2 questions:
1. Why do you have drunken blow? I normally only clear the smites so I dont use drunken blow.
2. You only have sprint, so I guess you take break between the running from the first room to the smites. Break @ the stone entrace thingy, right behind the first stairs. Isn't it faster to use this:

1: Resilent weapon
2: VwK
3: Vengeful weapon or
4: Soothing memories
5: Bonetti´s Defence
6: Dolyak Signet
7: Enraging charge
8: Sprint

Or wont this work, still missing the point of bringing Drunken blow

Batou of Nine

Batou of Nine

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

California, USA

Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarioLeanza
I got 2 questions:
1. Why do you have drunken blow? I normally only clear the smites so I dont use drunken blow.
2. You only have sprint, so I guess you take break between the running from the first room to the smites. Break @ the stone entrace thingy, right behind the first stairs. Isn't it faster to use this:

1: Resilent weapon
2: VwK
3: Vengeful weapon or
4: Soothing memories
5: Bonetti´s Defence
6: Dolyak Signet
7: Enraging charge
8: Sprint

Or wont this work, still missing the point of bringing Drunken blow
If you are only doing smite runs, then try my variation of Witte's build::
Quote:
Originally Posted by Batou of Nine
Tactics 12 (9+3)
Strength 10 (9+1)
Restoration 12

[skill]Vengeful Was Khanhei[/skill][skill]Vengeful Weapon[/skill][skill]Bonetti's Defense[/skill][skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill][skill]"To the Limit!"[/skill][skill]Enraging Charge[/skill][skill]Riposte[/skill] -or- [skill]Deadly Riposte[/skill][skill]Signet of Stamina[/skill] Explanation of specific use is in post #144 above. Witte's build is best for doing multiple areas of the UW. Enjoy!

Cheers!