17 Jan 2007 at 06:07 - 12
Hi!
Nice to hear that other people use this with success too!
@Vexed: You're absolutely right that the moment she uses a skill while in her form she loses one hex. This is why i wrote:
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The moment she changes back hex her with Scourge Healing and rip and hack the hell out of her,
Like Melisande said, that means your supposed to hex her while she is out of form...
@Melisande: I died a lot in the beginning, too. When you chain the Rips right, it shouldn't be a problem to do it with 30 or 45% DP, though.
Man, you guys and gals are just really lucky. I have 40 greens or so and only one of those dropped the first time i killed a boss (Razorfin's Axe). I wish i had so much luck, too! Ghial took me 40+ times the first time i tried (when Factions was new) i didn't even get his staff. I tried again recently and he dropped it for a different build and a different char (as the original one involved killing every Jade solo on the way and I couldn't make it any more...)
Have fun and get this scythe... she's a beauty.
MH.
19 Jan 2007 at 06:14 - 13
Could you do a sliver armor run with an elementalist with all the soldiers in it still? Or would the seers tear you apart?
19 Jan 2007 at 15:35 - 14
I brought my warrior from Tyria with a zealous sword only for this run, I´m playing Nightfall with a dervish. I´ve tried the build and killed the Acolyte a few times already, but sometimes it takes too long. I can´t activate the ripostes in the right manner and sometimes she changes back to Avatar of Dwayna before I kill her and I have to start it again. But I believe I´ll get better with some training.
I´ve tried to bring Scourge Enchantment too, but the global damage seens to be the same, because she keeps healing most of time and doesn´t activate the ripostes like before and as soons the avatar skill recharges she looses the hexes. For me it sounded like it´s better to bring only scourge healing and keep the ripostes in the way you say. I´m with 14 on tactics.
I`ve exchanged Lion´s Confort with "Victory Is Mine". She´ll be with 2 conditions all the time (bleeding and deep wound), so I can get 128HP of healing and 14 energy with it.
And inspired by your build (ripostes and health degen), I´ve tried another build with a W/R. I bring Apply Poison in the place of Scourge Healing. With bleeading and poison she has 7 pips of health degeneration (-14hp per second) and 3 conditions all the time (Bleeding, Poison and Deep Wound), sometimes even a 4th condition because I bring Desperation Blow (+38 damage) in the place of Vigorous Spirit and use it when Dolyak Signet is up. The Build helps to get her health down when she is in the Avatar form, since she can´t get ride off the conditions, and Victory Is Mine works even better with 3 or 4 conditions (192...256 HP and 21...28 Energy) so I don´t need another healing skill and can keep Apply Poison Up all the times.
But in the end, it´s all about the ripostes, if you can´t get them in the right chain you can´t kill her. Maybe I´ll change my helm for a Tactician´s Helm for one more point for Tactics (right now I use a Strength one).
Anyway, thanks for the build MadHamish! And sorry for any grammar errors, english isn´t my first language.
22 Jan 2007 at 06:03 - 15
@Freneticweasel: I don't know, but please test this out, i'd like to see it working.
@Luigi Br: Yes, for me she changes back to Avatar-Form sometimes too, before I can kill her but at least she won't get over 60% of life when you keep riposting her. Thanks for the hint with the conditions. I can kill her with 14 in tactics aswell, but it is a lot faster if you pump it to the max AND get the blessing from the shrine (if you have the favor, that is...) with 17 in tactics you'll do a LOT of damage. Thanks for testing "Scourge Enchantment". Well, the good thing is we now know that it doesn't work.
Perhaps we could use gladiators defense for additional damage? Anyways. I've got me scythe and I go to other places to do my farming now... Just startet a new pre-character.
Have fun!
MH.
23 Jan 2007 at 05:56 - 16
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Originally Posted by Freneticweasel
Could you do a sliver armor run with an elementalist with all the soldiers in it still? Or would the seers tear you apart?
I tried it two times with my ele but shadowform ends too early and the acolyte of dwayna heals herself too much. Perhaps a A/Me could manage it.
23 Jan 2007 at 11:48 - 17
I do it the same way but the thing is with both Dolyak and Lion's Comfort you have to consider casting routines.
I take Auspicious Parry instead of Flail and it seems to be doing the job a bit better for me.
Record is under 5 minutes (yeah i was lucky  )
This is my exact build.
[skill]Auspicious Parry[/skill][skill]Riposte[/skill][skill]Deadly Riposte[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Vigorous Spirit[/skill][skill]Scourge Healing[/skill][skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Dolyak Signet[/skill]
Attributes:
Tactics: 14
Swordsmanship: 9
Strength: 7
Smiting Prayers: 8
I don't use any points in Healing Prayers so basically Vigorous Spirit can be left out of the build (I don't even remember why i left it there  )
Also: i tend to start from Pogahn Passage making my way round the Hekets for the Balthazar Shrine towards the Grenth on to get all the blessings and i use a Vampiric Sword so for 20 minutes i get +6 health while attacking.
23 Jan 2007 at 18:43 - 18
Emik: with healing sig, don't you also have to consider casting routines? a 2s cast time for healing sig is still a fair amount of time. I actually just use a vamp sword like you do, stick on vigorous spirit and that's pretty much all the healing I need if you add in flail. For the extra slot, I actually use silverwing slash for a bit of extra dmg.
Melaina: I've actually tried it on a A/E before I found this thread. I can't seem to get the sliver armor to actually target HER. It either targets one of the guards or one of the casters she's next to. I'm not that experienced with the A/E build yet (I've only done Ghial and Monk's Construct a few times) so if you could tell me how to target the sliver armor, I could try it out.
23 Jan 2007 at 21:26 - 19
@Melisande: I've done a little slivering myself before. The thing is, you can't target it. It does what it wants. At least when i do it. When farming insects luckyly it targets the monks first, then the paragons. When going against the Warrior Construct it targetted the afficted warriors first. I thought, that it perhaps targets monsters by name in alphabethical order, but when i went and killed Woespreader it would go for him first (some times at least). I don't know if anyone can tell you how this works.
@Emik: Are you talking about killing the acolyte in 5 minutes or does it take you 5 minutes to get to her AND kill her? My complete run takes 10-12 minutes for me.
Nice usage of auspicious parry. I use Flail mainly because i wanted to help my henchteam to kill the buggers around the acolyte and so it would increase my selfhealing with vigorous/vampiric-mod. For Lions-Comfort - which I don't like aswell because of it's disabling Dolyak - you should just use it when you just activated Dolyak.
29 Jan 2007 at 01:39 - 20
i find sliver often targets the enemy i am targeting
29 Jan 2007 at 03:32 - 21
it helps a lot if you can weild a sword. the sword will make sure you are exactly adjacent to the boss.(20% raj is nice) and you either hav to run right thru her guards and they will sometimes just fall behind you. or you can run around in a circle a bit and manuever them to fall at your side kinda. i used to ghail a lot, got it first drop on first 2x weekend.
25 Feb 2007 at 09:08 - 22
After a few rounds of messing around with this, I have found that the following seems to be the most effective in farming here:
Auspicious Parry
Deadly Riposte
Riposte
Healing Signet
Scourge healing
Gash
Distracting blow
(optional)
Attributes:
Tactics:16
Smiting Prayers: 11
Swordsmanship:6
General Guide: Clear all of the enemies as you normally would, then send your henchies on their way. From here you want to charge the Acolyte of Dwayna... she will like begin casting her form so melee, AP, riposte, melee, AP, Deadly, Gash-rinse and repeat (Deadly recharge will now be your marker for when to hit with gash again). When the form runs out immediately cast scourge healing, followed by your normal routine of ripostes and parries. Make sure you keep scourge healing up... the 63 damage every cast will hurt him severely. And watch carefully for the recast of the form (you should have him very near death by now) Distract it, this will give you a 30 second window to finish him off. Rinse and repeat until you get as many of what you want  . If you start running low on health, hit in this order: AP, Sig, rip, deadly rip, gash and you should be good to go. Good Luck and enjoy your drops!
02 Mar 2007 at 16:32 - 23
Very nice build there MadHamish , although 10 kills 0 green  still cheers for the build i was going crazy trying all sorts of ele builds and just couldnt get it.
02 Mar 2007 at 22:29 - 24
Why not go as a W/N and use strip enchant as she is a Derv. who uses enchantments.
03 Mar 2007 at 18:55 - 25
Much faster with a Mesmer, as long as she can't see you. That's all the hints I'm giving.
04 Mar 2007 at 00:42 - 26
Hint Hint do you mean signet of midnight?
06 Mar 2007 at 17:15 - 27
Hi im having trouble killing dwayna can anybody help me plz???
08 Mar 2007 at 16:03 - 28
Thanks so much for posting this guide! I had trouble killing her solo with this build...I must not be properly chaining my ripostes. What's the proper way?
However, I had hubby help me, and we killed her. Dwayna's Grace dropped for him and he gave it to me
With his mesmer, he used Signet of Humility so she couldn't switch to her form so fast....muhahaha!!  Meanwhile, I hacked away while he further degen'd her.
14 Mar 2007 at 21:36 - 29
Do u kill everyone but the Acolyte with henchmen then send them away??
14 Mar 2007 at 23:48 - 30
For me the 55 monk/Mesmer Visage + Visage + Illusionary weapon build works better. Same concept with the original Tank Hench clear the area build process except for.....//The importance of leaving at least 2 melee fighters alive with the Acolyte. more melee the better.// (Derv or War type doesn't matter. These guys will give you ur energy back while your pummeling the Acolyte with IW and draining his energy to nothing making it a successful Kill IMO). Works great for me.  got 2 graces so far...gotta stop and do missions and quests for now before the weekend. or else my drops will end up with rotten eggs.
15 Mar 2007 at 19:50 - 31
nice build works well, takes a bit long though
16 Mar 2007 at 04:42 - 32
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Originally Posted by God Abyss
Do u kill everyone but the Acolyte with henchmen then send them away??
Ummm, I don't know... I wonder if you do... Hmmm maybe recheck the top of the thread??? Hmmm I wonder if you send henchies away... Hmmm...
16 Mar 2007 at 18:59 - 33
I can consistently kill Dwayna in anywhere between 5:30 (record) and 8 minutes. Build is as follows:
Auspicious Parry
Riposte
Deadly Riposte
Gash
Flail
Scourge Healing
Healing Signet
Dolyak's Signet
14 Tactics, 10 Strength, 9 Swords, 8 Smiting.
Riposte/Deadly Riposte while she's in form for harassment, the second she switches out, Scourge goes on, I switch to a 3/1 Vamp Sword and kick into Flail. Riposte/Deadly Riposte as often as possible, same with Gash. Reapply Scourge after approximately 15 seconds, and continue to Flail away. 8 or 9 times out of 10 I can kill her before she can jump back into form. The 5:30 time I killed her just as the animation began for her form casting.
19 Mar 2007 at 10:12 - 34
Thanks so much for the build!  Got her scythe 3rd try.
19 Mar 2007 at 23:47 - 35
Farming this with a Rt/Me spirit spammer, run time 6-7 min total using the hench trick, solo killing the Acolyte in under a minute.
Here's the video if you are interested in this method:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqpa6N_7B4g
20 Mar 2007 at 01:51 - 36
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20 Mar 2007 at 13:11 - 37
Yes, sometimes she doesn't want to attack.. the AI is weird. But when she stays inside spirit range I never saw her live long enough to use Avatar again
20 Mar 2007 at 14:29 - 38
If she stands directly adjacent she usually dies easily... otherwise she always survives unless Dissonance/Wanderlust stop her Avatar on the second attempt.
27 Mar 2007 at 17:51 - 39
i tried the riposte build without much sucess (mesmer build wasn't that easy either). Then i called one of my heroes for help. Razah set up his ghosts end she went down pretty quick. and at kill No. 6 with one hero besides me i got the scythe.
I guess i'll try the ritu only build next time if i need another one
during the process i found lulus spear and custos bow as well ^^
08 Apr 2007 at 06:01 - 40
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