R/D Bunny "Reaper"
Wretchman Drake
Revising. This build is being re-worked, and re-tested.
Sir Mad
Do you have enough energy, even with 12 expetise, to run that build? I won't so the math here, but RaO and TF roughly have the same energy cost if you wanna keep them up all the time, and thumpers are generally low in energy despite the fact in a standard build (IB, Hammer Bash, Crushing Blow, Distracting Blow), 2 of their attacks are adrenaline skills and therefore have no energy cost, and the 2 others cost 5 energy before expertise reduction. TF drains your energy fast - so will Apply Poison and your attack skills. I guess a zeaoul scythe would help provided you fight deveral foes at the same time.
Charm Animal without Comfort is a bad idea in my mind - if you don't have room for it, you'd better not take a pet at all, since it's probably not going to survive a long time.
The use of 2 sup runes (410hp, assuming you have a scythe of fortitude) is probably an issue as well.
I wouldn't compare R/D to hammer R/W. Bunny Thumpers are not only pure damage dealers, they can also shut down to some extent their targets with the KDs and Distracting Blow and ain't completely inefficient against a foe with evasive stances thanks to IB. This R/D build (I'm not familliar enough with them to be sure it's the case for all the scythe ranger builds) is a purely offensive build - the damage outpout sounds nice if you can manage your energy to spam the 4 attack skills, yet, alone it sounds like it's made for foes with no self-defense at all (evasive stances/enchantments/whetever, healing, condition removal, etc).
But yeah, there are probably interesting things to do with a scythe ranger.
Charm Animal without Comfort is a bad idea in my mind - if you don't have room for it, you'd better not take a pet at all, since it's probably not going to survive a long time.
The use of 2 sup runes (410hp, assuming you have a scythe of fortitude) is probably an issue as well.
I wouldn't compare R/D to hammer R/W. Bunny Thumpers are not only pure damage dealers, they can also shut down to some extent their targets with the KDs and Distracting Blow and ain't completely inefficient against a foe with evasive stances thanks to IB. This R/D build (I'm not familliar enough with them to be sure it's the case for all the scythe ranger builds) is a purely offensive build - the damage outpout sounds nice if you can manage your energy to spam the 4 attack skills, yet, alone it sounds like it's made for foes with no self-defense at all (evasive stances/enchantments/whetever, healing, condition removal, etc).
But yeah, there are probably interesting things to do with a scythe ranger.
Wretchman Drake
After experimentation with Comfort Animal, the skill just does not fit here. The Bunny Reaper needs to focus on damage and needs as many attack skills as possible.
Energy: Energy management even with a zealous scythe is great suprisingly.
Comfort Animal: This build does NOT need Comfort Animal because even if the pet dies, my Beast Mastery isn't in vein as it is implemented into my Tiger's Fury, plus the Bunny Reaper doesn't share the weakness that of an RaO Thumper whereas once the pet dies, they can't use RaO. This build still keeps going even if the pet dies, the pet is simply to add pressure and helps for extra damage.
Energy: Energy management even with a zealous scythe is great suprisingly.
Comfort Animal: This build does NOT need Comfort Animal because even if the pet dies, my Beast Mastery isn't in vein as it is implemented into my Tiger's Fury, plus the Bunny Reaper doesn't share the weakness that of an RaO Thumper whereas once the pet dies, they can't use RaO. This build still keeps going even if the pet dies, the pet is simply to add pressure and helps for extra damage.
Dr Strangelove
Pets don't add a lot of damage while dead. Either bring a rez, or don't bring a pet at all. The only place I can see a pet build working without a rez is RA or old school IWAT, and those don't really count.
However, he does only have a sup expertise in the picture, so that's probably ok. I'd toss victorious sweep for a pet rez, and consider trying to switch out TF for RaO.
However, he does only have a sup expertise in the picture, so that's probably ok. I'd toss victorious sweep for a pet rez, and consider trying to switch out TF for RaO.
Wretchman Drake
RaO isn't needed for this build, that's a thumper's elite. They need RaO to speed up the knockdowns, this build uses conditions to slam onto the target and needs Tiger's Fury to attack fast with the already slow-paced scythe. The elite for a Reaper is Reaper's Sweep, which inflicts a Deep Wound, and combined with Apply Poison, that's -4 degen with -20% maximum health. Now imagine that combined with a RaO thumper distracting and knocking the target down. That's one of the ultimate pressures, especially on casters.
Yuan The Painful
no no all wrong
run this it pwns
R/D
Expertise 14 (10+1+3)
Beast Mastery 9 (8+1)
Scythe Mastery 12
Rampage as one - Elite
Eremites Sweep
Victorious Sweep
Chilling Victory
Disrupting Lunge
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Res Signet
i use three scythes, a zealous of fortiuide, a ebon of fortitude, and a sundering of fortitude
armor is minor beast, sup expertise, sup vig, and 2 attunement runes
amazing dmg often hit 100+
run this it pwns
R/D
Expertise 14 (10+1+3)
Beast Mastery 9 (8+1)
Scythe Mastery 12
Rampage as one - Elite
Eremites Sweep
Victorious Sweep
Chilling Victory
Disrupting Lunge
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Res Signet
i use three scythes, a zealous of fortiuide, a ebon of fortitude, and a sundering of fortitude
armor is minor beast, sup expertise, sup vig, and 2 attunement runes
amazing dmg often hit 100+
Coloneh
your missing the point of a thumper. thumpers are around to provide quick powerful and cheap KD spikes. alos Tiger's fury is outclassed in every way by RaO, no sane thumper would be caught dead with Tiger's.
Wretchman Drake
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yuan The Painful
no no all wrong
run this it pwns
R/D
Expertise 14 (10+1+3)
Beast Mastery 9 (8+1)
Scythe Mastery 12
Rampage as one - Elite
Eremites Sweep
Victorious Sweep
Chilling Victory
Disrupting Lunge
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Res Signet
i use three scythes, a zealous of fortiuide, a ebon of fortitude, and a sundering of fortitude
armor is minor beast, sup expertise, sup vig, and 2 attunement runes
amazing dmg often hit 100+ So what, my build deals conditions. That's what it is, it's not an interupt build. Quit thinking about what a thumper would do and at least try to understand this is a completely different build. If you think your build is good, please post your own topic...
run this it pwns
R/D
Expertise 14 (10+1+3)
Beast Mastery 9 (8+1)
Scythe Mastery 12
Rampage as one - Elite
Eremites Sweep
Victorious Sweep
Chilling Victory
Disrupting Lunge
Comfort Animal
Charm Animal
Res Signet
i use three scythes, a zealous of fortiuide, a ebon of fortitude, and a sundering of fortitude
armor is minor beast, sup expertise, sup vig, and 2 attunement runes
amazing dmg often hit 100+ So what, my build deals conditions. That's what it is, it's not an interupt build. Quit thinking about what a thumper would do and at least try to understand this is a completely different build. If you think your build is good, please post your own topic...
Vax
Wow buddy way to make a good build retarded
Attributes go as following
14 Beast Mastery
11 Sctythe
11 Expertise
You were right about the zealous staff which I will give you props
but
the skillbar goes as following
Rampage As one
Fertile Season [HA Holding] [If something else drop beasty mastery down for expertise]
Chilling Victory
Victorious Sweep
Eremites Attack
Charm Animal
Comfort Animal
Rez Signet
If you're smart you have basically infinite energy with the scythe
you have to have that much in beast mastery if you want to hold in HA right now for Fertile Season [if you're running 2 R/D's if not then put in some type of lunge]
But seriously
Dont post a build if you dont know the right skills
thanks
Attributes go as following
14 Beast Mastery
11 Sctythe
11 Expertise
You were right about the zealous staff which I will give you props
but
the skillbar goes as following
Rampage As one
Fertile Season [HA Holding] [If something else drop beasty mastery down for expertise]
Chilling Victory
Victorious Sweep
Eremites Attack
Charm Animal
Comfort Animal
Rez Signet
If you're smart you have basically infinite energy with the scythe
you have to have that much in beast mastery if you want to hold in HA right now for Fertile Season [if you're running 2 R/D's if not then put in some type of lunge]
But seriously
Dont post a build if you dont know the right skills
thanks
Sir Mad
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vax
Wow buddy way to make a good build retarded
(...)
But seriously
Dont post a build if you dont know the right skills
thanks Why? Can't I post a build I'm not sure it's THE BETS BUILD EVAR if I want people to help me improve it? I'm still skeptical about the OP's build (energy-wise mainly - I shall try it to check if it's realy that manageable in the long run), yet you have no right to post something like "yo, noob, don't use this, use my completely different build" with no explaination at all.
/ end rant
(...)
But seriously
Dont post a build if you dont know the right skills
thanks Why? Can't I post a build I'm not sure it's THE BETS BUILD EVAR if I want people to help me improve it? I'm still skeptical about the OP's build (energy-wise mainly - I shall try it to check if it's realy that manageable in the long run), yet you have no right to post something like "yo, noob, don't use this, use my completely different build" with no explaination at all.
/ end rant
Wretchman Drake
Hmm, I forgot to mention this is a Team Arena-only build... Thus the reasoning behind no Comfort Animal.
The build has worked for my team in TA many times, if you don't believe it's good try it or your own variation... This is just something to consider.
I don't know why the other poster had to be so harsh.. >_>
Thx for clearing that up, Sir Mad. I just want to improve this build that basically uses conditions such as Apply Poison and/or Deep Wound (Reaper's Sweep) with a pet. This is a TA build, I think for HA Reaper's Sweep would go for RaO and Tiger's Fury for Comfort Animal, along with some attribute changes.
The build has worked for my team in TA many times, if you don't believe it's good try it or your own variation... This is just something to consider.
I don't know why the other poster had to be so harsh.. >_>
Thx for clearing that up, Sir Mad. I just want to improve this build that basically uses conditions such as Apply Poison and/or Deep Wound (Reaper's Sweep) with a pet. This is a TA build, I think for HA Reaper's Sweep would go for RaO and Tiger's Fury for Comfort Animal, along with some attribute changes.
Alanus
All you people need to think imaginative and think outside your cookie box for a change. Alot of the GW community always has their mindset on the lame cookie cutter builds and really think there are none better,no matter what you say, they are very arrogant...Isn't this how new cookie cutter builds are made? When someone uses a build that's dissaporved for a while then later reconized and accepted?
I see how this build operates and was on a team with this build, and it works great with a thumper. It's certainly not a bad build.
Now that you mention it's for Team Arenas, I can see how this makes more sense. You should have added that before.
I see how this build operates and was on a team with this build, and it works great with a thumper. It's certainly not a bad build.
Now that you mention it's for Team Arenas, I can see how this makes more sense. You should have added that before.
Mistical miss
Nice build to come up with, but wouldn't a running skill fit in nicely? or something to be able to keep hitting your enemy? (thumpers do this by knocking)
As for the pet res, in a team arena build, u could have another tumper/reaper bring some pet ressurect that works for all dead pets...
saves a skillslot for one, long cast time though I fear...
As for the pet res, in a team arena build, u could have another tumper/reaper bring some pet ressurect that works for all dead pets...
saves a skillslot for one, long cast time though I fear...
Korean Xunlai Agent
Okay first off there is really no energy management because of the recharge on the skills - eventhough you have expertise and they are only 5 - 10 energy cost
You dont need the charm animal skill if you dont have anything that requires a pet
I would probably drop the Apply Poision and put in Troll Unguent if you are just focusing on TA RA right now
but for HA GVG this build would never work
You dont need the charm animal skill if you dont have anything that requires a pet
I would probably drop the Apply Poision and put in Troll Unguent if you are just focusing on TA RA right now
but for HA GVG this build would never work
Wretchman Drake
I actually ran a team of 6 of these R/D's, withuot pets and Whirling Defense in place of Charm Animal, with one ZB escaper and one Blessed escaper. We faced a top-300 guild and slaughtered them >_>
My original R/D didn't have Charm Animal but still had Tiger's Fury because the scythe is slow.
Bringing in Trolls Unguent for TA would make you look like a total noob, you know that right? Or do you just HA and never TA?
My original R/D didn't have Charm Animal but still had Tiger's Fury because the scythe is slow.
Bringing in Trolls Unguent for TA would make you look like a total noob, you know that right? Or do you just HA and never TA?
Thom Bangalter
this build is bad, but at least you'll be able to get a 15^50 scythe with it by entering RA over and over.
Drop apply for a pet rez, you'll get way more DPS out of your pet then you will by applying 4 degen.
Drop apply for a pet rez, you'll get way more DPS out of your pet then you will by applying 4 degen.
Age
Looks nice.Why are Rangers referred to as Bunnies sometimes?
Ichigo724
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Originally Posted by Age
Looks nice.Why are Rangers referred to as Bunnies sometimes?
offtopic: because of the way they walk when they carry hammers etc.
Sir Mad
^ That's because of the attack animation with Hammer Bash that makes them look like a jumping rabbit I believe.
SnipiousMax
Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
Quote:
Originally Posted by GuildWiki
The colloquial term "Bunny Thumper" for this build comes from the fact that the Ranger running animation while carrying a hammer is seen as a comical hopping motion in the manner of a bunny or rabbit. The "thumper" part comes from the sound certain hammer attacks make when they strike their target.
Get's carried over to other types of weapons because the builds are all supposed to work on the same premise.
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