A question about Green items

Djaal

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

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Look, first off: i am not having a moan... just want to compare notes.

in the last 4-5 days, i've collected 25 elites skills, in some areas where i know its easy, i solo run, and in some areas i take a large group of hero's and henchies.

however, not once have i picked up a green item. just wanted to know if anyone else has the same problem.

infact, to be honest, i've only picked up one green item in across prophecies and nightfall. whats going on?

what do you think?

Fallen Hunter

Fallen Hunter

I Saw That

Join Date: Mar 2006

The bushes

D/R

You are most likely doing this with henches/heroes - keep in mind that they get assigned drops too. So this means that with 7 heroes+henches you have a 1/8 chance of getting the item if it drops, and of course the chance of it dropping in the first place is relatively low.

ss1986v2

ss1986v2

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

you start with a 1/8 chance if you have full party. lets just say you have a 1/10 chance in the green dropping (dont know what the actual number is, could be even less). so we see:

1/8 or 0.125 * 1/10 or 0.1 = 0.0125 or 1/80 chance! so, your chances of actually getting the green in a full team is rather small.

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Djaal
in some areas where i know its easy, i solo run,
So he's not always using a full team....

For me, I've been getting quite a few greens, say about 10 in whole Elona. This is with a full team of heroes/hench. Most of them where crap however, none of them falling after Vabbi. I gave them to new Guildies/heroes, but I didn't have to farm for any of them.

Guess it's just bad luck for you...

Tiny Killer

Tiny Killer

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Oshkosh, WI USA

Exile Champions of Heroic Order [ECHO]

It seems to go in streaks for me. I will go long periods without getting any green drops and then, out of the blue, there will be a drop or two. It seems that some days you are the windshield, some days you are the bug.

Keithark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

Be Aggressive B E Aggressive [AGRO]

E/Me

Ever seen one boss drop 2 greens?? Happened to us last night, one for me and one for guildie, then we went straight to town and straight back out just to see if was glitch and could keep doing it and I got another one. I got screenies on my computer at home but don't know how to post them here, it was Kepkhet's Refuge, so is a common green but thought it was strange to kill a boss 2 times and get 3 greens out of it. Anyway we went out and back in and nothing

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

I've gotten 5 green drops in 11 months, all in Factions. The middle three dropped one-a-day for three days, the last one on a green drop weekend. Nothing at all so far in Nightfall.

It's like black dye, just luck.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

I got a fair few greens with full hench teams in Elona when Nightfall came out also. I intend to take my ele round factions to collect all 92 remaining elites I don't have this weekend though...I'm willing to bet I'll get no green drops from any of those 92!!

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

each henchie u have halves the drop rate. Try killing all the guys around the boss and then hurting the boss then sending all ur heros away until their names are grey, then kill him. It works.

Thibor

Thibor

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

A Circle of Ravens

W/

I got my first one a week ago in Elona. I had a full hero/hench party. Wasn't even trying for it. I was just trying to get to one of the new buired treasure spots :-)

ischuros

ischuros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ireland

N/Me

Not every boss has a green

ss1986v2

ss1986v2

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/

even running solo, luck plays a huge role in green drops. example: i use to use a touch ranger to solo farm ghail (back when his staff still sold for something). i kept track and i did 47 runs over the coarse of almost 3 weeks. he never dropped it! i gave up and just bought the damn thing. then, about a week later, i taught a guildie how to run it and the strategy to kill him. it dropped for him on his first run!

and thats why im not allowed to go to vegas...

Djaal

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

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I have to laugh, another 5 elite skills captured, and yet no prize.

I tried a run in Sunward Marches for "Reapers Sweep", no luck... took dunkoro only.

I know they are super duper rare, but there must be something wrong here.

Having played Prophecies and Nightfall, and only getting one green drop, i would have to agree with celestial beaver.

Djaal

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by ss1986v2
even running solo, luck plays a huge role in green drops. example: i use to use a touch ranger to solo farm ghail (back when his staff still sold for something). i kept track and i did 47 runs over the coarse of almost 3 weeks. he never dropped it! i gave up and just bought the damn thing. then, about a week later, i taught a guildie how to run it and the strategy to kill him. it dropped for him on his first run!

and thats why im not allowed to go to vegas...
that is harsh!!!

jcapulet

jcapulet

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

I still wonder about Factions vs. Nightfall regarding greens...I've gotten lots of greens (mostly "newbie" greens ) compared with Factions...where I've only gotten 1 green.

It must have been quite the streak of luck though...in that single Factions mission, I got Ryver's bow, black dye and a sapphire I nearly peed myself.

Swamprob

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

E/N

I've run two characters completely thru prophecies and am working on Nightfall. I've seen exactly one green, which is a hammer sitting in storage. However, I never solo so that's certainly a factor.

TheRaven

TheRaven

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Virginia

Spirit of Elisha

W/

I tried farming Ssaki's Sword and Geoffer's Bulwark a few weeks ago. I went out 4 henchies (sorry, I'm not good enough to solo yet) and killed both of them about 10-15 times. No luck. No greens.

I finally gave up and went back into the town. Grabbed a full team of Henchies and went back out to work on the Charting the Jade Sea quest some. I killed Geoffer and got his Bulwark immediately. I think the powers that be just felt sorry for me.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

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Originally Posted by Covah
each henchie u have halves the drop rate.
No, the drop rate is just divided evenly between you and everyone else in your party, including henchmen and heroes. 3 party members = 1/3 chance, 8 party members = 1/8 chance.

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Originally Posted by Swamprobf
I've run two characters completely thru prophecies and am working on Nightfall. I've seen exactly one green, which is a hammer sitting in storage. However, I never solo so that's certainly a factor.
In Prophecies, only bosses and monsters in certain optional areas drop greens.

tommarrow

tommarrow

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Shyft Machine [MYTH]

E/

I found the easiest place to get greens was in Cantha. They seem to drop pretty easily if you try to farm them and I also got several just playing the game. Nightfall I have only 1 and I have tried to farm for them too. The one I got I wasn't even trying for.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

I mastered the good old reliable Scar Eater faming months and months ago...whenever I need quick cash I pay a visit to the Bank of Scar Eater and make a "withdrawal". Once I needed some quick cash...went to my favourite bank manager...nothing...10 runs...nothing....20 runs....nothing...30 runs....nothing. I gave up. Went after him the next day...it took a further 45 runs to get him to drop his green...then he dropped it twice in a row. 75 runs with no drops is just harsh.

As I'm going for all Canthan elites this weekend...I need the Scar Eater's. Then I'll be going onto Jayne Forestlight. I will laugh SO HARD if he drops his green with a full team of henchies after I've been farming him so long!!

Marth Reynolds

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

it's mostly luck with these green drop it seems,

gotten 2 green drops from elona so far in full henchman groups, a mesmer domination wand and a mesmer offhand xD

just seems like the chest patterns in this game, somewhat erratic

Miss Puddles

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

i had villnar drop his staff and his glove at the same time recently.

Ayumi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Djaal
Look, first off: i am not having a moan... just want to compare notes.

in the last 4-5 days, i've collected 25 elites skills, in some areas where i know its easy, i solo run, and in some areas i take a large group of hero's and henchies.

however, not once have i picked up a green item. just wanted to know if anyone else has the same problem.

infact, to be honest, i've only picked up one green item in across prophecies and nightfall. whats going on?

what do you think?
I hope you're actually going for greens in an area which actually has monsters in it that drop green weapons. But I don't care about greens, if you want cash or anything, go do FoW/Uw or just run people or help them with missions for a small fee.

And hey, you can always go merchant. ;] (Buy low, Sell high)

Greetings,
-Ayumi

Djaal

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

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^^^^^

wouldn't know where to start with the merchant thing...lol

If i need an extreme amount of cash, i normally go to my guilds resident millionaire. lol

FoW... admittingly not that good. although in my first run ever, i got 1 ecto and one icy fellblade of fortitude which was perfect 15 above 50. lol

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

general advice: educate yourself on how to farm, where to farm, builds, targets, and the general concept of anti-farm code.

that aside, I was doing sf runs last night in full hench/hero and had gorrel drop both his cane and rockmolder at the same time. Not that they are worth much (sold both for 5k), but seeing 2 for me in full hench/hero was kinda neat.

Djaal

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

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^^^^^
Look, the original question i intended to ask was not on how to farm or tips. but the extreme rarity of green drops i was experiencing and if anyone else was having the same problems.

As a way of an update, I have now captured over 50 elite skills and clocked the game (and in the process got the protector of Elona title) and yet still no drops.

it seems that i am not the only one suffering.

T N Player

T N Player

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Bay Area

W/

that must suck, i go with teams and i dont even want a green, but they just drop

u must have bad luck