Well, I was lucky enough to get all of 2 wintergreens from my predictions. Now, these are potentially actually very good PvP weapons, for the sole reason that they have a constant, 0 req, damage. This means that they will do the same damage on any profession you put them on, similar to the standard candy cane weapons.
Where they differ though, is that they are fully modable, and inscribable. So far, there seems to be a trend in spears, I'd imagine for casters. In Kamadan, I'm seeing a ton of people buying up +5 energy inscriptions and +20% Enchant and +30HP mods for spears. Not surprising really, because you basically have a caster sword, with the range of a wand, and a constand 10 damage. I've already picked up one for my monk.
However, I'm still in two minds as to what to spend my second choice on. Shield is tempting, however, their 8 armour is no better than a standard 16 armour shield, being wielded without meeting the req, so that's kind of pointless. I can't really think of a competitive use for the melee weapons, since with spears offering the same mods and inscriptions, along with a range and reasonable damage, there is little point in a caster using them. Bows I suppose could be useful for warriors luring...
So, I'd like to hear what other people are choosing and why ^_^
Wintergreens: what you got and why
greyf0x_f0x
Dr Strangelove
I grabbed a spear as well, unsure what to grab for my second. Anyone know the range of the bow?
Darcy
I picked the wand and the staff. Max damage doesn't matter to a caster so with the mods and inscription I can put on them, they will be the same as any normal caster weapon.
JGaff
My bro and I grabbed a shield, a bow and a staff. We're not PvP centric and are looking to enjoy the items we got for what they are: Fun.
People already trying to buy and sell them though. Might be interesting in a few hours...
People already trying to buy and sell them though. Might be interesting in a few hours...
greyf0x_f0x
hmm, well after a quick test of my new spear, saddly it doesnt live up to it's stats. Even on a 60 armour target, I'm only doing 4 damage 
This of course increases with attributes in Spear Mastery, however, obviously the damage calculations work differently than I assumed. I was under the mistaken impression that if it said 10-10 damage, with no requirement specified, it would do 10 damage. Ah well, in that case, I think I'll just go with whatever looks best ^^. Another caster weapon probably, most likely a sword or axe
This of course increases with attributes in Spear Mastery, however, obviously the damage calculations work differently than I assumed. I was under the mistaken impression that if it said 10-10 damage, with no requirement specified, it would do 10 damage. Ah well, in that case, I think I'll just go with whatever looks best ^^. Another caster weapon probably, most likely a sword or axe
Dark Kal
The scythe in case I ever want to us it with an Illusionary Weaponry character, because it can hit several targets.
floppinghog
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I grabbed a spear as well, unsure what to grab for my second. Anyone know the range of the bow?
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Savio
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Originally Posted by greyf0x_f0x
This of course increases with attributes in Spear Mastery, however, obviously the damage calculations work differently than I assumed. I was under the mistaken impression that if it said 10-10 damage, with no requirement specified, it would do 10 damage. Ah well, in that case, I think I'll just go with whatever looks best ^^. Another caster weapon probably, most likely a sword or axe
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Rehnahvah Gahro
Is it possible to add an Aptitude not Attitude Inscription to the caster weapons? If there is no attribute, then there's no skill recharge is there? I already picked the shield, because I think I can use it the most (Both as Funweapon and for PvP).
Can't pick a second one though x/.... had no Luck...
Can't pick a second one though x/.... had no Luck...
ShaneOfMach
I love using spears on my necromancer to trigger Barbs and Mark of Pain.
Oh so much fun!
Oh so much fun!
lyra_song
i grabbed the bow, cause...i had to have it ^_^
MadOnion
Thanks for the info savio, I never knew that! I grabbed a spear too though, as the +5 unconditional energy of a spear outweighs the +~5 damage gained from a wand. And with no formalized data, simply from playing a ton of caster using both candy cane and pvp creation spears, I've found that generally (an average of all targets, obviously it varies), the regular spears tend to do 1 or 2 damage while the candy cane spears do more like 2 to 4. Of course, without testing in tob I can't really say for sure... Anyway, I still have a wintergreen selection remaining, unsure of what to get...
Neo Nugget
i got, sheild and the axe.My warr deserves them:
GunnerDude
I grabbed the sword because im going to use it for my 55 monk, 55 necro and all that stuff. And for second i picked scythe for illusionary weaponry.
bebe
Got a wand and spear!
Phoenix Arrows
Probably grabbing a spear and a staff...do the staffs have 20% HSR? Otherwise I'll just get a spear and sword/bow.
Firestone
I find that the wintergreen weapon sucks. After making us wait for like 1 mth+ for it, the weapon should have been at least max dmg with req 9 or something. 
Let's look at the dmg behind it...
Axe
Normal: 6 - 28
winter: 10 - 10
Bow
Normal: 15 - 28
winter: 15 - 15
Dagger
Normal: 7 - 17
winter: 5 - 5
Hammer
Normal: 19 - 35
winter: 15 - 15
Wand
Normal: 11 - 22
winter:10 - 10
Scythe
Normal: 9 - 41
winter: 10 - 10
Shield
Normal: 16
winter: 8
Spear
Normal: 14 - 27
winter: 10 - 10
I find that the item is simply not worth equip in battles, especially in end games battle, maybe except caster wands.
The fact is that it's lame. For those people who argue that no req. is needed, I would like to mention that your dmg will sucks without your weapon mastery.
Most probably I will be exchanging for a staff or wand...
Edit: I got a spear instead.
Edit 2: Staff doesn't have 20% HSR, avoid at all cost
Let's look at the dmg behind it...
Axe
Normal: 6 - 28
winter: 10 - 10
Bow
Normal: 15 - 28
winter: 15 - 15
Dagger
Normal: 7 - 17
winter: 5 - 5
Hammer
Normal: 19 - 35
winter: 15 - 15
Wand
Normal: 11 - 22
winter:10 - 10
Scythe
Normal: 9 - 41
winter: 10 - 10
Shield
Normal: 16
winter: 8
Spear
Normal: 14 - 27
winter: 10 - 10
I find that the item is simply not worth equip in battles, especially in end games battle, maybe except caster wands.
The fact is that it's lame. For those people who argue that no req. is needed, I would like to mention that your dmg will sucks without your weapon mastery.
Most probably I will be exchanging for a staff or wand...
Edit: I got a spear instead.
Edit 2: Staff doesn't have 20% HSR, avoid at all cost
Alleji
I got a spear and a shield. Spear for the reasons mentioned 10 times already and shield because it looks cool and actually noticeable at a first glance, whereas you have to pay attention or see a character up close to notice other weapons.
Although I'm not planning to drop any cash on upgrading these... for now I'm perfectly fine with spirit of the forgotten + different offhands.
Although I'm not planning to drop any cash on upgrading these... for now I'm perfectly fine with spirit of the forgotten + different offhands.
requinox
I don't understand why anyone would expect these weapons to be max damage and on par with normal weapons. When I first saw them, the first thought that came to my mind was they were the same as the candy cane / peppermint weapons except green. Finding out they were inscribable was a nice bonus.
That being said I got a spear since my pve paragon build has 0 in spear mastery and deals 0-1 damage to mobs in Torment anyways.
That being said I got a spear since my pve paragon build has 0 in spear mastery and deals 0-1 damage to mobs in Torment anyways.
RTSFirebat
I won one weapon, gave the correct details. Nut the NPC is not offering me anything.
Meh I don't really mind, just had a feeling this would happen.
Meh I don't really mind, just had a feeling this would happen.
MoldyRiceFrenzy
i got a staff cause i thought it would have the hsr... but it didnt =( nor the +10, so well i got screwed. I gave one of my greens to friend cause i felt bad-since he accidently put in a different email adress than account name to a-net. I kind of want sword/spear though atm. more leaning toward sword just because i have the gear for it.
Lex
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same as long bow
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Codas
Shield for my monk's kiting set
Sword possibly for +5e 20% enchant
Sword possibly for +5e 20% enchant
Skye Marin
I got the Spear for my Motivation Paragon with +5 Energy and Furious Mod.
The Bow is pretty nice for group pulling, and the Sheild will replace Hassin's Shell on my low-energy monk set.
The Bow is pretty nice for group pulling, and the Sheild will replace Hassin's Shell on my low-energy monk set.
Lothlorian Sassun
Well the Agent Said these weapons would be "Sharp" so that got my hopes up that they would be max damage. I mean the only advantage over peppermint is they can be inscribed which means a runner or 55 monk or a caster could get some use out of them. These weapons are in no way "Sharp" and are dull as a rock. A step above peppermint only due to the fact that you can inscribe them. I'm going to save mine for the Festival games because that is one place you might actually have a use because weapons don't matter in Festival Games. And they don't even have a new skin. They are just peppermint dyed green.
They are free though if you won so I guess you can't knock ANET for giving something for free. Just wish they would have been better or had a new skin.
Loth
They are free though if you won so I guess you can't knock ANET for giving something for free. Just wish they would have been better or had a new skin.
Loth
Firestone
requinox, au contraire to what u think...
there are people who would like to use it as a standard weapon to do damage. If the /bonus weapons are like these candy weapons... do you think anyone would still use them?
Mastery of weapon:
Assuming weapon is a bow
Normal: 15 - 28, req 9
Winter: 15 - 15
For normal weapon, from mastery 0 to 8, ur dmg will be 10.75 on average, compared to winter, which gets higher dmg.
However after that, the normal weapon does about 21.5 on average, compared to winter, and the dmg scales higher when more mastery is added.
Its like thinking ... kewl festival hats can be dyed and slotted with a rune. I'm going to use it instead of the normal headgear -.-
End line: The wintergreen weapons are maybe for fun at best, not for serious usage.
there are people who would like to use it as a standard weapon to do damage. If the /bonus weapons are like these candy weapons... do you think anyone would still use them?
Mastery of weapon:
Assuming weapon is a bow
Normal: 15 - 28, req 9
Winter: 15 - 15
For normal weapon, from mastery 0 to 8, ur dmg will be 10.75 on average, compared to winter, which gets higher dmg.
However after that, the normal weapon does about 21.5 on average, compared to winter, and the dmg scales higher when more mastery is added.
Its like thinking ... kewl festival hats can be dyed and slotted with a rune. I'm going to use it instead of the normal headgear -.-
End line: The wintergreen weapons are maybe for fun at best, not for serious usage.
anti_z3r0
can anyone confirm that the range of the wintergreen bow is that of a longbow?
Alleji
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Its like thinking ... kewl festival hats can be dyed and slotted with a rune. I'm going to use it instead of the normal headgear -.-
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Vilaptca
I got the Wintersgreen Staff to put my perfect 20% dragonslaying upgrade on. I've been saving it for the most silliest weapon, and I think I made the right choice.
Oh and somehow I guessed one right and so I actually was able to get 2...
Grabbed the sheild as well. Looked like fun.
Oh and somehow I guessed one right and so I actually was able to get 2...
Grabbed the sheild as well. Looked like fun.
Arduin
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Curse You
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can anyone confirm that the range of the wintergreen bow is that of a longbow?
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Sarevok Thordin
Grabbed a Staff and Shield =)
Firestone
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hoh is no kick.. try using in elite mission such as anguish
the monsters have 1/8 chance of dealing ~230% of the usual dmg
NeHoMaR
I got the shield but I am not sure about my 2nd choice, I need help, maybe I could sell that 2nd for a good money; the bow seem to be the best in damage, and someone say is longbow, is true? ; at the other hand is the wand making 10 damage always whatever your attribute, is that true too? Man, I am not sure.
Sasuke The Betrayer
I only got the sword, but I managed to buy 5 other wintergreen (Just to stare at), which were scythe, spear, shield, bow, dagger.
Juicey Shake
I got a bow, a spear, and 3 shields. 1 shield for me, 1 for nasty, 1 for lucis, done!
Drop of Fear
i had 3 picks on my account, so i got axe (+5 energy and +5armor is just as good as any other weapon when u're running) and bow, perfect for luring. still unsure about third
Unlucky Slayer
I got the bow and sword which I sold the sword to Dralspire because I said I would.
Skuld
Got axe cos they look cool, dunno what else to get.
pigdestroyer
so can you add a prefix and sufix to these?