I'm new to UW farming. I've been solo killing all the UW smites for a about a week now.
Tonight I killed them all on 4 different trips, and in those 4 trips of 100% smite killing, I got zero ectos.
On other nights on most runs I also usually end up with zero ectos for killing all of them, although sometimes I get one, sometimes two and once I got three. But it seems much more often than not, I get zero.
A poster on the comment of where I originally saw the build said he gets an average of 2 ectos per run (build was posted a month or so ago in case they changed the drop rates since then). I have no clue how he gets an average of 2 ectos per run since my average is way closer to zero.
Is getting a lot of zero ectos per run normal?
Is there a trick to not getting stiffed with zero ectos?
Does the anti-farming code apply to ectos that drop from smites if I kill all the smites then zone to LA and go back in UW and kill all the smites again?
How many ectos are normal for a solo UW smites only run?
Navaros
Cebe
It's entirely down to luck...which I'm sure you didn't want to hear 
Yes, it's likely you will get zero ectos per run...the most I've personally ever seen per run is 4...so I guess zero-4 ectos per run....but I've had my fair share of zero-ecto runs.
Yes, it's likely you will get zero ectos per run...the most I've personally ever seen per run is 4...so I guess zero-4 ectos per run....but I've had my fair share of zero-ecto runs.
Navaros
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Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
It's entirely down to luck...which I'm sure you didn't want to hear
Would have preferred if it was a more solid drop rate not based on luck.
I've seen many people bashing ecto farmers on this site for getting rich or getting FOW armor in an easy way and based on that I thought if I finally get in on it then it would be smooth sailing to mass ectos once I figure out how to survive and kill all the smites. It's quite shocking to realize that that isn't close to being the case.
Makes me completely bewildered why anyone would ever want to 2-man or 4-man farm the UW if the ectos already don't drop enough with a solo run.
Would have preferred if it was a more solid drop rate not based on luck.
I've seen many people bashing ecto farmers on this site for getting rich or getting FOW armor in an easy way and based on that I thought if I finally get in on it then it would be smooth sailing to mass ectos once I figure out how to survive and kill all the smites. It's quite shocking to realize that that isn't close to being the case.
Makes me completely bewildered why anyone would ever want to 2-man or 4-man farm the UW if the ectos already don't drop enough with a solo run.
laurson
my guildi had 4 ecto's and 3 golden in 1 run oO
Anarkii
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Originally Posted by Navaros
Would have preferred if it was a more solid drop rate not based on luck.
The drop rate is 'luck' itself. If each smite crawler had a fixed 5% chance of dropping an ecto, killing 20 of them doesnt guarantee an ecto. You can get 20 ectos or none at all.
But for your original question, I'd guess around 5%. Its hard to estimate unless you have a massive sample collected from players. In WoW, drop rates of almost every item is known to an extreme precision because of the presence of mods and user-submitted data to 3rd party surveys. No such provision in GW.
But for your original question, I'd guess around 5%. Its hard to estimate unless you have a massive sample collected from players. In WoW, drop rates of almost every item is known to an extreme precision because of the presence of mods and user-submitted data to 3rd party surveys. No such provision in GW.
irishone
what i do is play for an hour in UW then go farmin on a different character then go back to farming UW about an hour later i normaly find that i get ethier 0 or 4 ectos per run but when i do this i find that i get 2-3 ectos on first run or 2nd
Karmaniac
According to wiki smite drop rate for ecto is slightly less than 2% and I can confirm this to be about the case judging by my own ventures to UW. Usually I get one or none at all. However the rate doesn't seem very consistent. I remember when I was dualing UW with spirit bond we would get around 2-3 ectos per run. That was before the nerf though.
Finally I would take everything posted here with a handful of salt for example some not to be mentioned person who kept insisting he could solo smites with his assassin in 5 minutes and make some 160k hourly. Yet the said person was very reluctant to post any sort of proof of his exploits.
Finally I would take everything posted here with a handful of salt for example some not to be mentioned person who kept insisting he could solo smites with his assassin in 5 minutes and make some 160k hourly. Yet the said person was very reluctant to post any sort of proof of his exploits.
Deadly Eyezz
I got max 3 ectos in 3 man party.As in not solo.
Navaros
Does anyone know if the anti-farming code effects ecto drops?
flipfly2004
my solo smiterun record was 4 ectos + 2 keys + 1 gold + 1 purple
darrengordon
It definatly seems slower no adays though im sure it just me, i always duo and the drop rate best i used to see was 5 ectos (not uncommon but that included attaxe) we used to get it most nights at around 9.30 UK time for some unknown random reason it really did seem better but im sure it was just coincidence and we prob forgot the times we didnt get em.
Nowadays we seem to get around 2 or 3 or none at all but dont do it much cause the drop rate is slow for me. There are quicker ways to get a few k an hour so i tend to do those now
Nowadays we seem to get around 2 or 3 or none at all but dont do it much cause the drop rate is slow for me. There are quicker ways to get a few k an hour so i tend to do those now
Sophitia Leafblade
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Originally Posted by Navaros
Does anyone know if the anti-farming code effects ecto drops?
yes it affected all drops that includes Rares like ectos even more so.
ACreator
Max I got was in my 1st time in UW in duo mode..
1st 2 aataxes, 2 ectos
1 DNM 1 gold
smites 3 ectos... xD
1st 2 aataxes, 2 ectos
1 DNM 1 gold
smites 3 ectos... xD
Jumping Is Uselss
A normal run for me is 0-2 ectos, I've had 4 ectos in 1 run, but its rare. As for the anti-farming code, my drops start to go like crap after 5 runs. Also I think ecto drop is affected by which server your in. Because on my Euro account I get ectos after 3-5 runs. While my American account gets ectos during the 1st run.
Hengis
I've been messing about with the solo E/Me build this week and still havent got it exactly right, but here is my experience.
I have made about 35 attempts, of those attempts I got to the smites around 20 times, and of those I killed all of the smites around 15 times.
My ecto haul so far is 11 ectos.
I have made about 35 attempts, of those attempts I got to the smites around 20 times, and of those I killed all of the smites around 15 times.
My ecto haul so far is 11 ectos.
Dmevi
I ve Done UW alot,,,
ive made runs with duo monk / SS / trapper / fasttrap / warrior....
al i ever got was 8 ectos iin a bout 45 runs:\\\
That sucked like hell!
but now for some reason i made the SS ele and i get sometimes 3 other runs 2 and sometimes 1 and 0 f course, but i had 0 for a veeery long time.. and now ive farmed 34 ecto and 130k in 4 days UW farming (just after school)
w00t
i can see my money pile rise and my fow armor getting closer.
My advice is: Keep on trying.. worked at me (though my friend is 2 FOW armors ahead of me now.....)
ive made runs with duo monk / SS / trapper / fasttrap / warrior....
al i ever got was 8 ectos iin a bout 45 runs:\\\
That sucked like hell!
but now for some reason i made the SS ele and i get sometimes 3 other runs 2 and sometimes 1 and 0 f course, but i had 0 for a veeery long time.. and now ive farmed 34 ecto and 130k in 4 days UW farming (just after school)
w00t
i can see my money pile rise and my fow armor getting closer.My advice is: Keep on trying.. worked at me (though my friend is 2 FOW armors ahead of me now.....)
Flightmare
I think my average is 1 ecto a run (in total)
Arkantos
You can get none, and some people (including myself) can get up to 4 in one run, but 0-2 is probably most common.
chessyang
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Originally Posted by Flightmare
I think my average is 1 ecto a run (in total)
same here.... as of the W/Me build post by Don't feel Pain.... sometimes 2 in 1 run =)... have some screen shots because i was so excited to have two drop in one run.. but now it nothing new....
Solo Monk. which is annoying and boring and slow i remember getting about 3 or 4 per run but again, annoying and boring and slow.
*Note after the smites stop dropping stuff (dust,items,residue,etc..) time to reset the flag =) aka farm other spots.
Solo Monk. which is annoying and boring and slow i remember getting about 3 or 4 per run but again, annoying and boring and slow.
*Note after the smites stop dropping stuff (dust,items,residue,etc..) time to reset the flag =) aka farm other spots.
Hengis
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Originally Posted by chessyang
*Note after the smites stop dropping stuff (dust,items,residue,etc..) time to reset the flag =) aka farm other spots.
With there now being three entrances to UW in the three continents, has anyone got any circumstantial evidence/gut feelings if it makes any difference about where you go to break your farming run..
What I mean is, if for example you constantly enter from ToA would you have to go elsewhere in Tyria to "reset your flag".
Or equally, if you rotate your entry point would you then have to do something else in each continent?
I was constantly using Chantry of Secrets as my entry point, and when my drops tailed off I went to help a guildmate do some quests and a mission in the crystal desert in Tyria, but it did not seem to have any effect on my poor drops. Of course with drops being totally random it can be hard to tell.
In theory I dont think it should matter where you go, but I would like to hear of any other experiences.
What I mean is, if for example you constantly enter from ToA would you have to go elsewhere in Tyria to "reset your flag".
Or equally, if you rotate your entry point would you then have to do something else in each continent?
I was constantly using Chantry of Secrets as my entry point, and when my drops tailed off I went to help a guildmate do some quests and a mission in the crystal desert in Tyria, but it did not seem to have any effect on my poor drops. Of course with drops being totally random it can be hard to tell.
In theory I dont think it should matter where you go, but I would like to hear of any other experiences.
Feathermoore Rep
My guess is that it doesnt matter which you enter the UW from because you still end up in UW. Its the continuous entering of a single zone and killing certain numbers of enemies that starts the anti-farming code. So after the drops go bad just go do pvp or a mission or something and then come back.
And on average i would have to say that it probably works to be 1 ecto per run. Thats solo anyway. I've gone in trap groups killing everything and seen none drop. So it really is luck based.
And on average i would have to say that it probably works to be 1 ecto per run. Thats solo anyway. I've gone in trap groups killing everything and seen none drop. So it really is luck based.
chessyang
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Originally Posted by Feathermoore Rep
My guess is that it doesnt matter which you enter the UW from because you still end up in UW.
ya same feeling here. but it won't hurt to try but it seems like a bit over kill do that. i guess whatever floats your boat
pegasux
my average is 1 per run so 4-5 per hour depending how fast you are at the smites. my recommendation if you are going for your FoW armor is go green farming...much more profitable...use that gold to buy your ectos. at least thats what i did.
ephexx
I found this Statistic on GuildWiki.org...
The Bladed Attaxes have a 50% MORE chance of dropping Ecto, so don't JUST FARM THE SMITES! Yes, the Bladed drop ecto too, farm both of them..
UW is mainly luck though, and A net is always fiddling with drop rates because one people find a spot of decent farming they nerf it within half a week... that just goes to show how fast word spreads by telling your little one friend and telling him not to tell anyone, and he tells his little one friend, and he tells his ALLIANCE lol..
That has nothing to do with this, but like I said A net is always fiddling and nerfing with drops I think..
Not to mention, drops are a very very complex system, and only the coders and the game creators know how it 100% works IMO...
The Bladed Attaxes have a 50% MORE chance of dropping Ecto, so don't JUST FARM THE SMITES! Yes, the Bladed drop ecto too, farm both of them..
UW is mainly luck though, and A net is always fiddling with drop rates because one people find a spot of decent farming they nerf it within half a week... that just goes to show how fast word spreads by telling your little one friend and telling him not to tell anyone, and he tells his little one friend, and he tells his ALLIANCE lol..
That has nothing to do with this, but like I said A net is always fiddling and nerfing with drops I think..
Not to mention, drops are a very very complex system, and only the coders and the game creators know how it 100% works IMO...
Xx Devour Xx
i average around 0-2 a run, with the occasional run where i get 3 or 4 ecto
best run 3 ecto 2 keys and a gold drop form dying nightmare lol ( non max truncheon)
best run 3 ecto 2 keys and a gold drop form dying nightmare lol ( non max truncheon)
Captain Arne Is PRO
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Originally Posted by Hengis Stone
With there now being three entrances to UW in the three continents, has anyone got any circumstantial evidence/gut feelings if it makes any difference about where you go to break your farming run..
What I mean is, if for example you constantly enter from ToA would you have to go elsewhere in Tyria to "reset your flag".
Or equally, if you rotate your entry point would you then have to do something else in each continent?
I was constantly using Chantry of Secrets as my entry point, and when my drops tailed off I went to help a guildmate do some quests and a mission in the crystal desert in Tyria, but it did not seem to have any effect on my poor drops. Of course with drops being totally random it can be hard to tell.
In theory I dont think it should matter where you go, but I would like to hear of any other experiences. There are 4-5 entrances to the UW accross the continents.. O.o
What I mean is, if for example you constantly enter from ToA would you have to go elsewhere in Tyria to "reset your flag".
Or equally, if you rotate your entry point would you then have to do something else in each continent?
I was constantly using Chantry of Secrets as my entry point, and when my drops tailed off I went to help a guildmate do some quests and a mission in the crystal desert in Tyria, but it did not seem to have any effect on my poor drops. Of course with drops being totally random it can be hard to tell.
In theory I dont think it should matter where you go, but I would like to hear of any other experiences. There are 4-5 entrances to the UW accross the continents.. O.o
My Green Storage
Chantry, Zin Ku and ToA.. Where's the other 1 (or 2?)
Anyway, I did it successfully 6 times and 0 drops.
Phantom Residues up the ass.
gold
white/blue Eternal something
Gold Eternal Shield (Req 13 Health +28)
... Still waiting for my first ecto drop ...
Anyway, I did it successfully 6 times and 0 drops.
Phantom Residues up the ass.
gold
white/blue Eternal something
Gold Eternal Shield (Req 13 Health +28)
... Still waiting for my first ecto drop ...
Navaros
Last night I did 3 more complete smite runs after making this thread. That was a few hours after the first 4.
Got no ectos at all. Got a sapphire on the 6th run and that's the only rare material I got in 7 runs, although I did get a few really crappy golds which I guess might have screwed up my ecto drop rate.
Got no ectos at all. Got a sapphire on the 6th run and that's the only rare material I got in 7 runs, although I did get a few really crappy golds which I guess might have screwed up my ecto drop rate.
CR3AT0R
at a stage after ss when famine just satrted itt was anywhere from 4-9 with me.
now like one or 2 if your lucky
now like one or 2 if your lucky
Evilsod
I'd have to say 0. In 40 runs i've had 4 ectos, 10 runs later i got 2 ecto in a single run. So thats about 9/10 runs with 0 ecto. Not really that impressive tbh, smites are just getting too overfarmed. You can make more money just killing Kirins.
Zeph
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Originally Posted by My Green Storage
Chantry, Zin Ku and ToA.. Where's the other 1 (or 2?)
There is one in the shiverpeaks on the beacons to droks run. I have visted it a few times on droks runs but never gone down to UW from there, mainly because it takes so long to get there and when you do your not normally with a team/build setup for UW.
AscalonWarrior
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Originally Posted by Evilsod
I'd have to say 0. In 40 runs i've had 4 ectos, 10 runs later i got 2 ecto in a single run. So thats about 9/10 runs with 0 ecto. Not really that impressive tbh, smites are just getting too overfarmed. You can make more money just killing Kirins.
wow, you're unlucky. I got like 11 ectos yesterday, 7 runs
Hengis
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Originally Posted by Captain Arne Is PRO
There are 4-5 entrances to the UW accross the continents.. O.o
Correct, there are four entrances, but is anyone seriously going to use the one half way down the Droks run? LOL
Always wondered why that entrance is there to be honest.
Hmmm.. you know, I might just try hero/henching my way there, then getting the hench/heros to suicide and then solo the place just to see if there is a difference in drops.. I can't imagine it will be time effective though, but it sounds like something to try for a change sometime.
If there is a 5th entrance then I must have missed it somewhere on my way to the 3 x Grandmaster Cartographer titles I have on my ranger. Anything is possible though I guess.
Always wondered why that entrance is there to be honest.
Hmmm.. you know, I might just try hero/henching my way there, then getting the hench/heros to suicide and then solo the place just to see if there is a difference in drops.. I can't imagine it will be time effective though, but it sounds like something to try for a change sometime.
If there is a 5th entrance then I must have missed it somewhere on my way to the 3 x Grandmaster Cartographer titles I have on my ranger. Anything is possible though I guess.
Imparator x
7 hours farmed uw..i got 22 ectos
leeky baby
my best 5 ectos 3 golds + gold from chest
but allot of times iv had 0 ectos, if i get 0 ectos i go and do something else like a chest run or some skill capping then come bk in a few hours then ill get some more.
I think the anti farmer code has something to do with it, if u keep entering a zone repetedly then drops get worse?
try make a search for it if ur intrested
leeky
but allot of times iv had 0 ectos, if i get 0 ectos i go and do something else like a chest run or some skill capping then come bk in a few hours then ill get some more.
I think the anti farmer code has something to do with it, if u keep entering a zone repetedly then drops get worse?
try make a search for it if ur intrested
leeky
Deacon Roswell
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Originally Posted by ephexx
I found this Statistic on GuildWiki.org...
The Bladed Attaxes have a 50% MORE chance of dropping Ecto, so don't JUST FARM THE SMITES! Yes, the Bladed drop ecto too, farm both of them.. First - Anyone can post things on GuildWiki. Just because it's posted there doesn't mean it's true. There is a TON of information that is absolutely wrong on GuildWiki.
Second - This information is one of those "absolutely wrong" statements. I have farmed enough ecto for 3 sets of fissure and most of them came from smites. I used to do 2 man Monk/Necro runs and kill all the aatxes and smites. I don't even bother with the aatxes anymore. Runs are much quicker when you just do smites.
The Bladed Attaxes have a 50% MORE chance of dropping Ecto, so don't JUST FARM THE SMITES! Yes, the Bladed drop ecto too, farm both of them.. First - Anyone can post things on GuildWiki. Just because it's posted there doesn't mean it's true. There is a TON of information that is absolutely wrong on GuildWiki.
Second - This information is one of those "absolutely wrong" statements. I have farmed enough ecto for 3 sets of fissure and most of them came from smites. I used to do 2 man Monk/Necro runs and kill all the aatxes and smites. I don't even bother with the aatxes anymore. Runs are much quicker when you just do smites.
Meralda estat
Wow thats nice Imparator.....whas farming UW yesterday 6hours....3ectos..Dammit!!! >.<'''''
dont feel no pain
I'll give you a scale of good luck t0 bad luck
43322222111111111111110000000000000000
<--- Uber Luck ----- Lucky ----- Normal --->
if that makes sense lol haha
43322222111111111111110000000000000000
<--- Uber Luck ----- Lucky ----- Normal --->
if that makes sense lol haha
novawhiz
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Originally Posted by pegasux
my average is 1 per run so 4-5 per hour depending how fast you are at the smites. my recommendation if you are going for your FoW armor is go green farming...much more profitable...use that gold to buy your ectos. at least thats what i did.
Sorry to get off topic, but what greens do you farm? I can farm a number of greens but none of them really sell or much.
raps4life
the ecto drop rate from smites is less than .2%
the ecto drop rate from aataxes is 4%
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Bladed_Aatxe
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Smite_Crawler
the ecto drop rate from aataxes is 4%
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Bladed_Aatxe
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Smite_Crawler