Lightbringer Points - Easier way to get them

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

In my opinion, ANet should really make farming Lightbringer points easier. I can get about 500 points with heroes and henchmen (so let's say 1000 with a full team) per hour, which simply isn't enough. I'm currenly at sixteen thousand points, and I really don't feel like spending another 18 hours just to max this title. And of course, it's even lamer see'ing alot of people got there Holy Lightbringer (8) title just by afk'ing for ~900 points per hour.

I'd like to see something like +5 Lightbringer points Blessings, or maybe just an area with enemies that you can kill alot quicker.

NOTE: If 500 points per hour is just incredibly low, please tell me, maybe I'm just whining for nothing Coulnd't find any posts/information about getting more then that anywhere.

thezed

thezed

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Iowa, USA

HoTR

/unsigned

A title is something you have to EARN. You don't see them making it easier to get the Wisdom title do you? If you want it, grind it. If you dont, you get plenty of points to reap the benefits of the title just by doing quests.

leeky baby

leeky baby

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Surrey University

Starting to play again... need a guild

W/E

how do u get points by afking? :S

Zapper901

Zapper901

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

Fire and [ICE]

W/

What is this afk Lightbringer farming I've been hearing about? How can you kill things while afk? Can someone explain this to me please?

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zapper901
What is this afk Lightbringer farming I've been hearing about? How can you kill things while afk? Can someone explain this to me please?
You can set up heroes and henchmen to tank a single mob outside of Gate of Nightfallen Lands and degen it slowly. The mob would replicate itself and then degen to death, giving you LB points. The heroes can keep this up ednlessly while you afk nearby.

A week or two after it was discovered, anet nerfed afk farming so you don't get points from replicated monsters, only the original ones, but some people managed to max out their LB title by afking during those two weeks.

leeky baby

leeky baby

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Surrey University

Starting to play again... need a guild

W/E

ok, ty for the info

exiled mat

exiled mat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

The netherlands > friesland > balk

[JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by thezed
/unsigned

A title is something you have to EARN. You don't see them making it easier to get the Wisdom title do you? If you want it, grind it. If you dont, you get plenty of points to reap the benefits of the title just by doing quests.
Maybe because most other titles are just for show, and this title actually gives you a small advantage in abbadon infested area's And to be finally able to catch up to those who've afk'd their title tho the limit

/signed btw

Crom The Pale

Crom The Pale

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ageis Ascending

W/

/signed

This one title is tied to an actual skill and zone so there should be an acceptable way to max it without months of grinding.

Bryant Again

Bryant Again

Hall Hero

Join Date: Feb 2006

2 points is a pain in the ass. I think this is a good idea. And while they do that, maybe they can update the Spearmarshal title! (I just really want that thing possible to get, sorry).

azathothx

azathothx

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Cork, Ireland

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

R/P

/signed

just buff the numbers to 4 or 5.

Knight Othin Of War

Knight Othin Of War

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Spartan Warrior Elite

W/Mo

/Signed, i get bored fighting for jsut 2 ightbringer points/kill

Not A Fifty Five

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Creating guild

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight Othin Of War
/Signed, i get bored fighting for jsut 2 ightbringer points/kill
/signed. Titans should give +10 lightbringer points is what I'd think. It'd lower titan gemstone costs as well.

se_brandon

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

Infamous Domination

W/Mo

Right now I'm currently approaching 16,000 LB Points, and this title is one heck of a grind. 2 Points per kill is just too low, especially comparing to some of the bounties for Sunspear Points that reach up to 7 points a kill. I'd have my title by now, I think I must have spent upwards of 20+ straight hours farming so far and I'm not even half way there....

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

R/

It seems unfair that those who AFK-ed forever still get to keep their LB Points after the update. I wasn't lucky enough to be far enough to even know what they were talking about (usually PvP forever in the beginning of new campaigns to get used to skills). 2 points per kill is so little. At least make it 4 if not 5.

/signed

Shadow of Light

Shadow of Light

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Australia

Mo/

I'd be interested in some Rare Scrolls or something that grant double Lightbringer points for a period of time.

I don't really care about the titles, but why not?

iCe X

iCe X

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Singapore

W/

i think the afk farming last more than 1 month


/signed

gogoblender

gogoblender

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Montreal, Canada

/unsigned


I like it the way it is
It's one of the only titles that actually has any meaning and therefore should be MUCH tougher to get.
Just means you all have to work harder is all


gogo

Cherrie

Cherrie

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Echowald

Marked by [Fury]

Me/

Digging out old topics ^^"
But I think this title should be tweaked because there was a way to get it maxed the afk way. I wouldnt mind it as it is now if tehre was no afk farming.

/signed

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

/notsigned

"Easier," unless it refers to the interface, is almost always a bad thing.

Veripare

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada, Ontario

/signed

The blessing rewards should go from two to five.

ShadowStorm

ShadowStorm

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Take me where I cannot stand.

The Better Part of Valor

W/N

Here's an easy fix that they could implement to fix both the Sunspear and Lightbringer titles.

In the Realm of Torment, offer bounty's that are only available to Castellans and Mighty Lightbringers or above. The New bountys would give 4 Sunspear Points and 4 Lightbringer points per kill. This would speed up Lightbringer farming and would offer a method to bring about the Spearmarshal title.

P.S. /signed

daraaksii

daraaksii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

/signed but only if they raise from 2 to 5 in DoA. You need to work for it.

Hanok Odbrook

Hanok Odbrook

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Tyria

Real Millennium Group

Mo/N

I don't necessarily want it to be easier, however, I would like to see this title untied from the Promotion Points title. Once my chars reached Kourna, I was just about at the cutoff for getting the bounties for SPP, and didn't start going after the Lightbringer until I hit that plateau. Unfortunately, I didn't know the LB bounties cut off at that point as well, so now I have to wait until Vabbi to think about leveling up my LB points. It would be nice for LB to have a separate cutoff from the SPP,

Hanok Odbrook
Real Millennium Group Guild
Truth * Knowledge * Peace

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

All missions and challenge missions should give a certain ammount per kill to certain levels.

For example, the Dajkah Inlet (Mission), should give 4 points per kill until Sunspear General.

Praetor

Praetor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere over the rainbow

Devil Me [DEvM]

E/D

Just revert all the afk-LB farmed pts and I'll be happy with 2 LB pt / kill. Otherwise, should be 4 LB pts in RoT and 6 in DoA.

=DNC=Trucker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

TLA

Me/

/signed for a minor increase. nothing over the top though.

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinraith
/notsigned

"Easier," unless it refers to the interface, is almost always a bad thing.
Except that the OP isn't actually asking for an easier way to earn lightbringer. Hes asking for a quicker way, because he doesn't like grinding the same area over and over again.

Why should the time you spend grinding the same area over and over be more important than your actual skill ?
Its not like your skill will improve much there after the first few times you go through it without any problems.

What I'd suggest is that the rewards for some missions and quests (eaither alter current ones or add new ones) are set so that if you complete them below a certain rank on sunspear/lightbringer then the reward will also bump you up to that rank. If you are at that rank, nothing happens from that part of the reward. But I would pick hard quests to give these rank rewards, preferably quests that would become easier if you already have a high rank in that title.

Mr.Pickle

Mr.Pickle

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2006

USA

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow of Light
I'd be interested in some Rare Scrolls or something that grant double Lightbringer points for a period of time.

I don't really care about the titles, but why not?
i like this direction in thought. after i finished the game i'm spending more time grinding out lightbringer points. a scroll would be a nice way to temp boost points.

sad to say i was 2 slow to get on the afk wagon but applauded the cleverness of those who did. that said now whenever i see holy lightbringer i think did they really earn it.

Priest Of Sin

Priest Of Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne.

Live For The Swarm [ZERG]

Me/N

I'll admit I afk-ed on my assassin to get Holy lightbringer, but god knows it made RoT missions SOOO MUCH EASIER. But since i'm done with it now, I'm waiting for the day when Anet takes away my points. I'm done with them anyway, and i'd be happy to earn them the REAL way.

on topic, /signed. +5 points isn't much of a boost, but it would speed up this shiznit alot.

Meat Axe

Meat Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Brisbane, Australia

R/

I like the argument that since the title has a reward, it should be easier to get. I like things that make no sense. I find them funny. Something with a reward should require more work to achieve, not less. This title makes the end game significantly easier, with a max title giving 40% reduction of damage and that other bonus which I can't remember at the moment.

Then again, I don't see how adding an extra couple of points for rewards in later areas would affect the title very much. I'm all for higher bounties for lightbringer, as long as they aren't too high.

kazjun

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

HoVa

W/N

/signed

I think it was 40% extra damage and -8 damage reduction wasn't it? As for me, I'm only LB5 so I'm all for higher bounties. But what could be helpful as well is adding bounties to missions. Right now, I'm finished with the missions so I only really go back to help a friend or guildie. But if there were LB points to be had killing margonites or such, I'd be much more willing to go back and repeat missions. LB points for me, and some help and experience for people who haven't done the mission. Good for everyone. Good for me too when I take new characters through.

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

CA

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I think titles are against casual players. I think the grinding for this title is overboard, you get 2 pts per kill and you need 50k to max out title. That's
25k monsters you have to kill for title, I think I've only killed that many through farming (and I mean grinding to pay off vabbian/15k sets). 2 points is ridiculously low, 5 or 7 pts per kill like sunspear would be plausible.

/signed

Orinn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Defiant Dragons

/signed as long as it doesn't go too high. I think 3 oints in the desolation, 5 points per kill in RoT would sped things up immensely, removing a good chunk of the grind associated with them, but not make it so easy that anyone can do it in a few hours.

revelation

revelation

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

With increasing points/kill will waste some people a lot of time, because they were farming hard to get high levels of title by 2pts/kill and then other people could get it few times faster/easier... Sounds unfair :P

But I /sign for minor increase... like 3-4 pts per kill

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

Quote:
Originally Posted by revelation
With increasing points/kill will waste some people a lot of time, because they were farming hard to get high levels of title by 2pts/kill and then other people could get it few times faster/easier... Sounds unfair :P
After the first few times they completed the lightbringer farming run, what exactly did those with higher lighbringer ranks do other than repeating the same run over and over ?

Why should people be rewarded by actual gameplay improvements simply because they can do the same thing over and over ?

To me the lightbringer title currently makes the time you spent grinding it at a higher importance to your actual skill at playing guild wars.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by revelation
With increasing points/kill will waste some people a lot of time, because they were farming hard to get high levels of title by 2pts/kill and then other people could get it few times faster/easier... Sounds unfair :P

But I /sign for minor increase... like 3-4 pts per kill
I have Holy Lightbringer... 25000 of it actually farmed. I honestly couldn't give a shit if they upped it. I still have 9 more characters who would like slightly more Lightbringer for the damage boost.

Orphan Anthem

Orphan Anthem

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Kinetic Fusion [kF]

Im happy with my r6 lightbringer and completly avoiding farming the lask 5k points for r7

Winterclaw

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxiemonster
NOTE: If 500 points per hour is just incredibly low, please tell me, maybe I'm just whining for nothing Coulnd't find any posts/information about getting more then that anywhere.

That seems about right for the area I had to farm the first three levels title at (2 points per kill). And I will agree that it's a bit slow.

Absolute Eminence

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

even just to 3pts would be relief for many casual gamers.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

I can understand that people don't want titles to be easier to obtain, but still, it's a bad thing that people rather go max out a title that doesn't have a passive boost in some missions. I'd rather see people walk around with Holy Lightbringer everywhere, then people with Ale-Hound, Sweet Tooth or Cartographer.

Thanks for the positive feedback though Maybe one day...