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gilgameshx

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24 Jan 2007 at 02:38 - 41

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Originally Posted by Tide to Go

I have never herd of that place, anyone else besides these two????? anyways, it has to be part of the game, mybe not a major role but atleast a mission town....

everyone remember we got alot more games, this one game dosent have to cover all of the questions still un answered.

I did, the mission requires you to free the prisoners from the Charr. The prisoners are located in Drascir. Later on these prisoners would be used in the Nolani Academy mission.

Tide to Go

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24 Jan 2007 at 04:12 - 42

I think i know what mission you are talking about, the last part with the lope sided floor, where u hold back the charr?

Guild Wars Guy

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Team Blitzkregg

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24 Jan 2007 at 10:57 - 43

wait a minute...This may sound really stupid because i havent read the nightfall manual with any thought or care but the centuars might be connected with greek mytholgy.Its highly unlikley but we might be centuars(sorry if spelt wrong both times) that Are destroying minoutars and the murrsat(sorry if this is linking the impossible) And the humans come in to save the centuars and their homeland. From the Beasts.and who knows they might introduce the Ev!l GoD

Allanon754

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24 Jan 2007 at 17:40 - 44

Oooh I thought of this too. Wouldn't it be great if there was a way to go back in time and see Tyria during the Guild Wars. Only problem however, would be a) This would copy off of the format of outland in WoW probably and b) how would characters go to other continents that started in Tyria before the charr invasion

Free Runner

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GW2G

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25 Jan 2007 at 07:52 - 45

http://guildwarsutopia.com

Its back in the running.

gilgameshx

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25 Jan 2007 at 08:20 - 46

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Originally Posted by Free Runner

http://guildwarsutopia.com

Its back in the running.

Though that is an interesting finding, wrong place to post it perhaps? Anyway I found an article about Guild Wars: Utopia being false. Though the link given was www.guildwarsutopia.com which doesn't work. Strange that http://guildwarsfactions.com works but adding prophecies to it don't.

Here's the story

Free Runner

Forge Runner

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25 Jan 2007 at 16:05 - 47

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Originally Posted by gilgameshx

Though that is an interesting finding, wrong place to post it perhaps? Anyway I found an article about Guild Wars: Utopia being false. Though the link given was www.guildwarsutopia.com which doesn't work. Strange that http://guildwarsfactions.com works but adding prophecies to it don't.

Here's the story

Sorry i was going to add more to my post but was in a hurry. The Guild Wars: Utopia and Guild Wars: Nightfall links now work. Guild Wars was only given the name Prophecies when Factions was released meaning they never set up that link.

Anyway moving on i am not sure the Mursaat will return anymore. They had their story in Tyria and as far as we know the ones on Tyria were wiped out by the Titans as told in the Flameseeker Prophecies. The Charr i am not sure of - if the game is to be Utopia i am not sure where they would fit in with their aggressive nature. Perhaps we will get to see a new race dwelling on the unknown continent?.

Tuner89

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26 Jan 2007 at 05:42 - 48

What I think is happening, is that Dhuum and Menzies (both were featured in Nightfall, they helped abbadon but were never truly defeated) will try and finish what Abbadon started. This will probably happen in an area to the north of the shiverpeaks (many NPCs talk of trading with the northern continent, if you remember, both Cantha and Elona had NPCs talkinga bout them far before it was released to public) Also, the name dosent give any clues about it IMO, Factions only talks about the small quarrely between Kurz and Lux, Prophecies only about a couple missions, and Nightfall about a god taking over, all of theese plots are so 'random' that they cannot possibly be thought up by hearing simply the name

Guild Wars Guy

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Team Blitzkregg

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26 Jan 2007 at 07:20 - 49

Factions Is Obvious its about err 2 Factions but not the main plot and also Prophecies, The Flame Seeker PROPHECIES!!!!. And Nightfall, When NIGHT FALLS,Light Must Prevail. IT TELLS YOU ON the box. Im sorry to tell you this like your a baby BUT YOUR BLIND!!!!!!!!!!!!... and Also . The Orrians Maybe They are Going to be in the new guildwars i mean Another Colony Might of Evacuated/Escaped to a new continent or They had a home Continent

Dzus

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26 Jan 2007 at 08:54 - 50

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Originally Posted by Guild Wars Guy

Factions Is Obvious its about err 2 Factions but not the main plot and also Prophecies, The Flame Seeker PROPHECIES!!!!. And Nightfall, When NIGHT FALLS,Light Must Prevail. IT TELLS YOU ON the box. Im sorry to tell you this like your a baby BUT YOUR BLIND!!!!!!!!!!!!...

1: 'Factions' merely represents the quarrel between the Luxons and Kurzicks, it has very little to do with the plot, just simply the path you take.

2: 'Prophecies' I can agree with the Flameseeker prophecies, but that isn't really revealed until later on in the story.

3: 'Nightfall' You're defeating Abbadon, not the Darkness.

Guild Wars Guy

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26 Jan 2007 at 10:50 - 51

Abbadon is the Darkness though and also Nightfall Is Varish and Abbadon's Project

Omega X

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Boston Guild[BG]

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26 Jan 2007 at 11:26 - 52

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Originally Posted by Dzus

1: 'Factions' merely represents the quarrel between the Luxons and Kurzicks, it has very little to do with the plot, just simply the path you take.

That's not entirely true.

Factions not only represented the 100 year quarrel between the Kurzicks and Luxons, but it tells the story of why things were the way they were and who was responsible.

You just don't find out the plot linking Prophecies to Factions until late in Nightfall by taking the quests in the Realm Of Torment. Kind of like moving forward and then moving back again to see the bigger picture.

By the way, I don't think that the Heroes involvement with the Factions story was simply a path. I believe it was something more than that. Its too convenient to be a coincidence.

Tuner89

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27 Jan 2007 at 00:34 - 53

I think, that no matter what happens, Menzie and Dhuum will be there. They supported Abbadon and are probably both mad that he is dead

Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

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27 Jan 2007 at 03:19 - 54

Well, it has been stated that it will take a bit of prophecies and expand upon it. Alex told us that. And also the person responsible for GW lore, who was hired for NF lore, is writting the lore of CH4, so...

Pwny Ride

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27 Jan 2007 at 06:10 - 55

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Originally Posted by Lord-UWR

Well, it has been stated that it will take a bit of prophecies and expand upon it. Alex told us that. And also the person responsible for GW lore, who was hired for NF lore, is writting the lore of CH4, so...

so...im just hoping to find out more about Gwen, thats the only reason im getting C4

TechnoSword

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W/Mo

28 Jan 2007 at 06:03 - 56

I was thinking that maybe since tyria and elona were connected, maybe the next chapter will be connected to Cantha? I mean you don't know the specific location of cantha do we? for all we know it may be north east or west of tyria?

gilgameshx

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28 Jan 2007 at 08:00 - 57

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Originally Posted by TechnoSword

I was thinking that maybe since tyria and elona were connected, maybe the next chapter will be connected to Cantha? I mean you don't know the specific location of cantha do we? for all we know it may be north east or west of tyria?

The Factions manual claims that Cantha is located south of Tyria but not sure where exactly. The statement about corsairs in the Nightfall manual mentions that there's a sea located between the Northwest coast of Cantha and the Southern rim of Elona.

Free Runner

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GW2G

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28 Jan 2007 at 10:59 - 58

Jatoro Musagi states that Cantha is southwest of Elona while Jiaju Tai in Lions Arch says it is south of Tyria which gives us a good idea of where it is

Tuner89

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28 Jan 2007 at 22:48 - 59

I am hoping that the next continent is north of Tyria, You can wear skirts in the snow >_< (talking about paragons)

gilgameshx

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29 Jan 2007 at 02:21 - 60

I think it might be north of Cantha, east of Elona. Northern areas might not be north of Tyria.

Bark

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OSL

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29 Jan 2007 at 11:04 - 61

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Originally Posted by Dzus

1: 'Factions' merely represents the quarrel between the Luxons and Kurzicks, it has very little to do with the plot, just simply the path you take.

You ever thought of what would happend if none would have been able to stop Shiro? Just imagine nearly every human in Cantha being transformed into afflicted or bound by Shiro. And i'm not completely sure that he would stop there, so imagine that army moving to Tyria or Elona or a place like those, starting to make the peoples there afflicted and binding them too.

I dont think that anything could stop an assult like that, so the heroes going to Cantha and killing him would pretty much have alot to do with the storyline. But of course, that is just my personal way to look at things.

Rainman

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29 Jan 2007 at 16:16 - 62

i think it might be to do with maguuma jungle (like another whole part of it). it would be cool if u got a character that can shoot darts from a shaft of bamboo or throwing axes or even blades on there knuckles

Neriandal Freit

Forge Runner

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29 Jan 2007 at 19:28 - 63

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Originally Posted by Rainman

i think it might be to do with maguuma jungle (like another whole part of it). it would be cool if u got a character that can shoot darts from a shaft of bamboo or throwing axes or even blades on there knuckles

Shooting darts from a bamboo stick is something I could see for a ranger, but (drawing from other topics) when people suggest a rifle or something, that makes me want to shoot my foot off.

But throwing axes is something that could also been seen as being done due to the throwing of a spear (that magically reappears in your hand ever time...)

Tuner89

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30 Jan 2007 at 00:59 - 64

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Originally Posted by gilgameshx

I think it might be north of Cantha, east of Elona. Northern areas might not be north of Tyria.

err, north of cantha = Tyria... also, Cantha is located just south of Tyria, We know this because there is a line in the factions manuel that says there is a sea between Cantha and Elona, Elona is VERY close to both Tyri and Cantha then, and due to the positioning of tyria and elona, you can assume that a continent cannot fit between Tyria and Cantha

Either you go east or south of cantha, east or south of Elona, or North, East, or West of Tyria... or you can put it in a completely reandom location that no 1 knows about

gilgameshx

Frost Gate Guardian

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31 Jan 2007 at 05:59 - 65

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Originally Posted by Tuner89

err, north of cantha = Tyria... also, Cantha is located just south of Tyria, We know this because there is a line in the factions manuel that says there is a sea between Cantha and Elona, Elona is VERY close to both Tyri and Cantha then, and due to the positioning of tyria and elona, you can assume that a continent cannot fit between Tyria and Cantha

Either you go east or south of cantha, east or south of Elona, or North, East, or West of Tyria... or you can put it in a completely reandom location that no 1 knows about

I think you meant this in the factions manual. Page 6 state that "The Empire of the Dragon holds sway over the Canthan continent to the south of Tyria."

In the nf manual of page 49. This is the statement, "Between the northwest coast of Cantha and the southern rim of Elona a deadly sea is troubled by sudden storms and cyclones, hidden reefs, and dangerous sea creatures."

This is what made be believe that Cantha is actually southeast of Elona. Or possibly south of Elona.

Tuner89

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31 Jan 2007 at 23:36 - 66

I believe on another forum there is a pretty nice picture compilation of how tihs all works out, the link is... http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10112151

Atara Ars Namadra

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04 Feb 2007 at 15:51 - 67

Ok !
I love this discussion but id like to clear something up.
There is a very strong bond between the new professions and the new continent.
Cantha: Assasin, Ritualist have a sort of far eastern feeling while Paragon and Dervish are pretty much egyptian/syrian.
So in my opinion this slays the Underwater settings...
Im not buying C4 if im going to be a fish...
The idea of a far north, tundra setting seems appealing, but i cant think of what professions wed have up there.
Also note that we dont really know if Arena Net wont totally kill the current Guild Wars style. Maybe the new game wont be connected to the other three, who knows ?
Although Guild Wars is great and fun, the majority of Guild Wars players WILL get bored of it sooner or later. Maybe Anet will have to polish up the game style. Add more mmorpg elements.
I dont know... you guys try to think of new professions.
I have an odd feeling this new chapter has been baking from the beginning of 2006.
I think its gonna revolutionize the guild wars franchise and pull out a totally new game. And Races, imo, will definitely be included.
Oh also think about what new weapons could be made. And making caster professions is cheap because then they can use wands, foci and staff.

bilwit

Ascalonian Squire

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04 Feb 2007 at 18:27 - 68

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Originally Posted by Atara Ars Namadra

And making caster professions is cheap because then they can use wands, foci and staff.

I demand a rapier with mesmer attribute requirements just like CGI renders of the mesmer

Tuner89

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04 Feb 2007 at 19:13 - 69

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Originally Posted by Atara Ars Namadra

I dont know... you guys try to think of new professions.
I have an odd feeling this new chapter has been baking from the beginning of 2006.
I think its gonna revolutionize the guild wars franchise and pull out a totally new game. And Races, imo, will definitely be included.
Oh also think about what new weapons could be made. And making caster professions is cheap because then they can use wands, foci and staff.

well, actually, it has been in development since factions has been released, anet has two teams working in year cycles simultainiously so that they can release a new game every 6 months.

Also, I had an idea a while ago that if they release a continent north of Tyria, they could make dwarves a playable race, alternatively, if they make the new continent east of Elona or Tyria, they could make a centaur as a new race (which would be pretty dumb, imo, I am getting sick of centaurs)

Eitherw way, I agree with you that players will start getting bored, My friend and I have been playing this game since last xmas, and we are running out of things to do, and slowly loosing interest, hopefully anet will do SOMETHING to recall our attention because this is a great game.

Milan-V

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Can't Touch [This]

07 Feb 2007 at 16:14 - 70

Not quite the lore, but this surely has to do with CH4.

Just my thoughts: vabbi clearly is a nation that relies on trading. Looking at the most obvious map there is no real civelisation around there. They could be trading with Kourna, but concidering the wealth in Kourna (not much) that wouldn't make vabbians rich.
Maybe the next continent of Guild Wars is the continent wich Vabbi is trading with.

Feme Assassin

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Greece

Reign of Heroes[ROH]

07 Feb 2007 at 18:14 - 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milan-V

Not quite the lore, but this surely has to do with CH4.

Just my thoughts: vabbi clearly is a nation that relies on trading. Looking at the most obvious map there is no real civelisation around there. They could be trading with Kourna, but concidering the wealth in Kourna (not much) that wouldn't make vabbians rich.
Maybe the next continent of Guild Wars is the continent wich Vabbi is trading with.

vabians are trading with tyria and cantha and maybe with the new continet but i doubt that

Brandon1107

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12 Feb 2007 at 03:13 - 72

deldrimor! deldrimor! deldrimor!

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

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15 Feb 2007 at 10:27 - 73

Quote:

Originally Posted by Milan-V

Not quite the lore, but this surely has to do with CH4.

Just my thoughts: vabbi clearly is a nation that relies on trading. Looking at the most obvious map there is no real civelisation around there. They could be trading with Kourna, but concidering the wealth in Kourna (not much) that wouldn't make vabbians rich.
Maybe the next continent of Guild Wars is the continent wich Vabbi is trading with.

The reason for all the money in Vabbi is because of its abundance of rare gemstones eg, Rubys, diamonds etc.

Mr. Mystica

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

hmm..domain of anguish?

Me/N

16 Feb 2007 at 04:33 - 74

I know take a look at all the armor...gosh look at the gems in those things...

But on to more serious matters, Classes if ch4 is in the tundra, then maybe a herdsman or a viking,

if its on a coast, like on the destroyed orr maybe a raider?
what ever... I just want some new info

Empedocles

Academy Page

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16 Feb 2007 at 07:10 - 75

Certain sources indicate that there will be a lot lumberjacks in the upcoming chapter. They're okay.

Monk Gsb

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Mo/Me

16 Feb 2007 at 11:56 - 76

dwarves and centaur's,

* shudders *

this is not WoW lol.

Aba

Wilds Pathfinder

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21 Feb 2007 at 06:56 - 77

I would love if the new GW came out with races........being a charr would really be hilarious,........even gaille had said in a chat that she also loved the idea of being a tengu....or charr. As for proffesions Alchemy would be very cool in my opinion....or something that deals with shape shifting.

Feme Assassin

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Greece

Reign of Heroes[ROH]

22 Feb 2007 at 11:45 - 78

if you want races go play wow or lineage this is guild wars humans are the only playbe race if you dont like it leave

Free Runner

Forge Runner

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GW2G

Knights Of The Sacred Light [KSL]

22 Feb 2007 at 16:05 - 79

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feme Assassin

if you want races go play wow or lineage this is guild wars humans are the only playbe race if you dont like it leave

Whoa. Calm it down. Just because WoW has races doesnt mean Guild Wars cant expand into them aswell. I do see playable races as a future feature but not in chapter 4.

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What playable races are there in Guild Wars?

In the first chapter you play characters from the human race. In subsequent chapters of Guild Wars, you may be able to play members of other races.

Feme Assassin

Lion's Arch Merchant

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Greece

Reign of Heroes[ROH]

22 Feb 2007 at 17:17 - 80

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free Runner

Whoa. Calm it down. Just because WoW has races doesnt mean Guild Wars cant expand into them aswell. I do see playable races as a future feature but not in chapter 4.

ok sry i may was a bit nervous but in fact i meant that i dont have a problem with new races but not the casul ones like orcs night elves elves and so on
if it is something that really fits the whole gw history and doesnt imbalance the game i will be very happy to play them