Reason why not to rush in a trade!!!

Juguard

Juguard

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

The Last Empire [TEvL]

R/

ok, so I rushed, to buy a brown dye for 30g. Why? I was bored, and wanted to buy it off this guy that was advertising to sell it.

So, what did I do? Gave him 3k. Then told him to look at his log and if he would be kind enough to return it. He took his time, and I said, well, sure he doesnt want to return it. So I wanted to show him a screenshot, and then he said I'm trying to scam him with some type of virus to steal his account.

Screenshot here: http://www.juguard.com/chang.jpg

I Phoenix I

I Phoenix I

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2007

The Elite Lords of Chaos [LoC]

R/

Uh...there have been many topics on people screwing up while trading due to a rush...we don't need another...

Also, I don't blame that guy. I wouldn't want some random person sending me a pic or anything...there's a chance that there is a virus or some inappropriate content in it.

Juguard

Juguard

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2005

The Last Empire [TEvL]

R/

I dont blame him either, I told him to enjoy that 3k, after he said he cant find the trade log, cuz it was my mistake... But telling me I'm a scammer after he stated he knows how to use the chat, and that he didnt see the trade, is not cool.

Well, crap happends :P

Sasuke The Betrayer

Sasuke The Betrayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Angeles

Pink Pearl

Mo/Me

Meh you got it off lucky. If you were to perhaps click 100k instead of 100 gold... hmm... Well anyways, 3k isn't much and if that guy would really keep it then let him.

Sword

Sword

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mo/

thats waht u get for running diversion on a ranger
=p

Aegeroth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Sydney, AUS.

Sons of Dark Magicians [SoDM]

N/Me

God hath shown his wrath on R/Mes once again!

Desythris Barrows(4): God is using Clumsiness!

Deadly Eyezz

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Your fault not his fault..
I wouldn't return it, unless i felt sorry for you..

there's a said "Law dosen't protect the idiots" or something like that :P

Bale_Shadowscar

Bale_Shadowscar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Manchester, England

New Dragons [NDR]

Posting on forums isn't going to change anything.

Myria

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ah, yet another example of the wonderful Guild Wars community. Morals? Sports(wo)manship? Doing the right thing? Bah! Those things are for losers, everyone knows that.

Kay84

Kay84

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Netherlands

[DVDF]

E/

aww.. well luckily it was only 3k
But would YOU haven given back the money?
if so, what if it was 100k+ instead of 3?

And with all the account stealing stories going around you can't blame him for being careful.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sword
thats waht u get for running diversion on a ranger
=p
Maybe he was doing abbadon's mouth and couldn't find a mesmer :P

Also... buy brown dye from trader ftw? It's like 100g.

roblethal

roblethal

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

USA (EST)

Ultimate Genesis [GEN]

R/

Well, maybe its just me, but if someone tried to give me 3k for something I'm selling for 30g, I'd point out there mistake. The only scam being done in this situation is by the seller. Sure the seller wasn't trying to scam initially, but willingly took advantage of a mistake. I'd have given it back... sorry Jugs!

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by roblethal
Well, maybe its just me, but if someone tried to give me 3k for something I'm selling for 30g, I'd point out there mistake.
If the buyer hadn't been jamming the Accept button, the buyer could have seen the mistake too. He also could've bought at the dye trader and avoided dealing with people. It also didn't help that he tried to send someone else a potentially unsafe file. Caveat emptor.

Man N Tights

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

Very few people in general would have the integrity to point out your mistake.
I rarely carry cash...in real life and fake.

GL

crazyFanatic

crazyFanatic

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Mo/Me

sry about your monney.
if he dont want to give it back there is rly nothing u can do about it

MegaMouse

MegaMouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

south mississippi

Warriors Of Melos WOM

E/N

Never press accept until you have done 2 things:
1 ensured that the item is actualy what was advertised.
2 ensured that the price that is beign offered is right.

Doing these 2 things would have let you catch the mistake. Unfortnatly it looks like both of you had brain farts at the same time. He truly should have been able to look at the chat logs (probably didn't know how or wasn't interested in looking). But if it was me and someone said they made a mistake I would have checked the chat logs and if they were right I would have given the gold back. Just chalk this up to a mistake made and learned from.

Mega Mouse

Grais

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Tools

Doesnt this post/thread belong in the 'typical acts of stupidity' thread. I think the community would be better served if that is the OP's goal.

Alya

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

European servers

RTFM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kay84
aww.. well luckily it was only 3k
But would YOU haven given back the money?
if so, what if it was 100k+ instead of 3?
Yes I would.

Actually I have done so on a couple of occasions.

I am appaled at the level of morality displayed by some members of this community.

Smile Like Umean It

Smile Like Umean It

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kay84
aww.. well luckily it was only 3k
But would YOU haven given back the money?
if so, what if it was 100k+ instead of 3?

And with all the account stealing stories going around you can't blame him for being careful.
Yes, and without a second thought to it.
Actually, I wouldn't have even accepted it before making sure that's what they wanted to offer.

He wouldn't have had to be careful about account stealing or bad files if he would have been honest and corrected a simple mistake.

Kay84

Kay84

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Netherlands

[DVDF]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smile Like Umean It
Yes, and without a second thought to it.
Actually, I wouldn't have even accepted it before making sure that's what they wanted to offer.
It's good to hear that there are some honest players around (same goes for Alya).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smile Like Umean It
He wouldn't have had to be careful about account stealing or bad files if he would have been honest and corrected a simple mistake.
Duh. That sentence wasn't aimed at the guy-not-giving-the-money-back-action, but at him being careful cuz of the account stealing stories which seem to pop up a lot these days. The account hacking these days isn't a direct consequence of that guy being dishonest.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Morals..lol

No one would complain if the cashier gave you change for a 20 instead of a 10..I know the self righteous will speak up and they they'd give it back but many of those are BS to make themselves look good.

Would I give it back? no
Would I expect someone to give it back to me? no

Shadow of Light

Shadow of Light

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Australia

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alya
I am appaled at the level of morality displayed by some members of this community.
You're not the only one.

Happily there are some good, honest, trustworthy people out there. Alarmingly outnumbered, but they exist. In real life as well as Guild Wars.

Kay84

Kay84

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Netherlands

[DVDF]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Admins Bane
No one would complain if the cashier gave you change for a 20 instead of a 10..I know the self righteous will speak up and they they'd give it back but many of those are BS to make themselves look good.
That's a good point you got there.

Vandal2k6

Vandal2k6

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Manchester, UK

The Manchester Marauders

W/Rt

I sold an item to someone a while back but accidentaly gave him the wrong thing. So he payed 4k for a shit sword when he wanted a bow. I noticed straight away and told him (he hadn't realised). So I told him to keep the sword and gave him the bow he originally wanted. Can I have a prize for being nice?

pixiLated

pixiLated

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Resident Gutter Dweller

Shards of the Silver Moon [MooN]

E/

If I had overpaid I'd say "stuff it, my own stupid fault" and after mercilessly kicking myself for a minute would forget about it.

If someone overpaid me, I would be one of the "self righteous" and give it back. Do it in real life, do it in game

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

I dont mean to sound harsh, but that was pretty much your own fault and hes not under any obligation to return the gold you over paid with.

I know a decent person would, and I probably would, but you cant make him/her and they didnt do anything wrong.

He didnt commit an offense because you willingly gave him the gold.

Kern Wolf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

NJ

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by MegaMouse
Never press accept until you have done 2 things:
1 ensured that the item is actualy what was advertised.
2 ensured that the price that is beign offered is right.

Doing these 2 things would have let you catch the mistake. Unfortnatly it looks like both of you had brain farts at the same time. He truly should have been able to look at the chat logs (probably didn't know how or wasn't interested in looking). But if it was me and someone said they made a mistake I would have checked the chat logs and if they were right I would have given the gold back. Just chalk this up to a mistake made and learned from.

Mega Mouse
QFT..
I can't imagine what anyone could be doing that would make them rush a trade session. You wouldnt rush buying a car, or home, or homework...you can count on mistakes being made...

ozsparrow

ozsparrow

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Melbourne, Australia

Order of Forgotten Heroes

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Myria
Ah, yet another example of the wonderful Guild Wars community. Morals? Sports(wo)manship? Doing the right thing? Bah! Those things are for losers, everyone knows that.
Well said Myria

I too find the lack of morals and ethics evident in the game ATM lamentable.

For example, I was recently doing a mission in a PUG to help out some lower level players and, in the heat of battle, picked up what was (for me) a relatively low level purple axe that was on the ground (I did not recall whether it was assigned to me or not).

One of the other players, a lower level wammo, started to desperately and continually spam on the Team channel that someone (no name) needed to give back his weapon as it was the only one he had. Eventually looking in my inventory, I then suddenly realised that the axe I had picked up was his and I immediately traded it back to him for nothing. He profusely thanked me and said that he had mistakenly dropped his main weapon.

No problem for me to give it back and another satisfied GW member who was not in danger of being shafted by someone else (and perhaps turning off the game?).

What is wrong with looking after your fellow players and not attempting to screw everyone over every time we interact with each other?

The object of the game is not IMO "become the biggest screwer of your fellow players" (or is it, I wonder?).