Anti-Survivor Title Track

UPDATE: After reading your replies I've changed how it would work, check it out: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...3&postcount=20

I apologize if this has been suggested before, any searches I performed yielded no relevant results. It's an idea I've had for several months, but never had the chance to put it out there and this is my first suggestion

There are a lot of people complaining that they've never had the opportunity to obtain the Survivor title track on characters created before titles were introduced. I have this problem, too. There are people demanding for some form of compensation, but I don't think anybody has come up with a viable solution yet.

This is where my idea comes in. You'll get this title based on how many deaths you have suffered. The point is to have something to make up for your inability to acquire the survivor title. So, if you've worked on a survivor character and you lose the title, this'll make up for it.

I think it's a better idea than some other suggestions.

People shouldn't be allowed to have both this and the Survivor title tracks. It just wouldn't make any sense, plus, there'd be people trying to get both titles at once by obtaining survivor then dying. So, you should only have one, or the other.

Of course, it needs to be tweaked around, maybe lower the required deaths, maybe change how it works or maybe someone has a better idea for a title name. So, please give me some feedback on this.

Anyway, on to the main part of my post.

You receive the title track after 50 deaths.

Stuntman

Requirement: - 100 deaths

Comments: - The idea behind putting this at level one was, that while stuntmen do take risks, they usually take safety precautions. Unless you're talking about old-style martial arts movies

Risktaker

Requirement: - 500 deaths

Comments: - Just your average Risktaker. The usual ol' person who mixes soda with pop rocks.

Courageous Risktaker

Requirement: - 700 deaths

Comments: - More fearless than your average Risktaker.

Insane Risktaker

Requirement: - 1000 deaths

Comments: - Someone who would perform stunts and tricks without any safety gear. In Guild Wars terms, being naked when rushing into battle.

Maniacal Risktaker

Requirement: - 1500 deaths

Comments: - "Maniacal Risktaker" sounds like a higher level of crazy than "Insane Risktaker", don't you think?

Suicidal Risktaker

Requirement: - 2500 deaths

Comments: - The kind of person who would douse themselves in gasoline and then play with fire. Or, rush into a group of Mursaat without wearing any armor at all.

Well, I think the title names are pretty much in order, from the mildest risktaker to the most severe risktaker. I'm sure the some of the first characters people used to learn how to play racked up quite a few deaths, so they'll have a head start on newer characters.

I understand that there's going to be a problem with PUGs willing to pick up players who display this title. However, I think that there is plenty to make up for this.

• It's another title to help you on your way to Kind Of A Big Deal.
• Characters that died before titles were introduced will have something to compensate for not being able to obtain Survivor.
• ANet doesn't have to unbalance things to accommodate to non-survivors. Think about it, if you got Survivor the old-fashioned way, then ANet decides to make achieving survivor easier (which is doubtful, anyway), wouldn't you be pissed?
• Did you lose your Survivor title mid-way through? You don't need to lose the time you put into your character by remaking.
• Pretty much anybody can get this title. You don't have to be incredibly rich or incredibly resourceful. Just by playing normally and not even trying to get it. I'm sure that novices would be better at this than veterans, It gives them a chance.

Also, just don't display the title if you're looking to get into a PUG, or just group with guildies

I intend for this to compensate those without the survivor title track.

I'd like some of your opinions.

K, i got 30k deaths, do i win? Dlvl FTW!!!!

No way it should count towards Kobd, it's already a flawed title, with the Lightbringer afk farming..etc. People would just run out constantly and die for an easy maxed title.

On another note, a former guildy, was closing in on 16,000 as of last week, so up those numbers.

The rest, is well thought of. Good job.

Not even close
There was a guru member who posted his 1,000,000 deaths several months ago which he got by afking at a res shrine with a mob at it.


To the OP nice job being creative with the names/comments but is dieing really an accomplishment?
I'm currently 100k away from level 3 survivor on my newest char since starting to play GWs again and half of the fun is the effort I have to go through to never get dp. After reaching level 3 I have no interest in running out and dieing but prefer to see how long I can go without doing it.

An award for failure just doesn't make sense to me, almost all of my characters are from the launch of GWs and they will never have a survivor title but thats life [or death as the case may be]
Come up with a creative set of titles for exp for older characters and you will have my vote.

Peace

i would so wear this to get a PUG. if they call you a newb, just laugh at them for trying to pug anyways.

Ok it has been suggested before. Even I put u a similiar post on it. The idea is sound but like the rest of the posters here say, do you realy want to let everyone to know how many times that you have died? Even before titles came out when I frst started the game (been playing almost 2 years now) I didn't care wether I died or not, i was known as the most pesistant Elementalist out there. If something killed me then I went after it with all hat I had til it was dead (DP didn't help much). Over 3k in deats and i still go out for revenge on certian enemies.

Mega Mouse

Instant maxed title for all faction farmers, sounds good.

/signed

I think this title would be hilarious. And I could get it on my PvP toons as well.

Not all titles reward skill (think lucky/unlucky). Sometimes they're just for fun.

i died ~2000 times on my oldest char, why stop now?

its an easy afk title. just leave your pc runing for a night and stand at a rez shrine with those horrible Tormen cratures.

max title would gain title as Leeroy jernkins ==]

Its a must have title !!!!!! good idea

you don't need even some mob to kill you

take a 55 hp set.

die 2 time

go to bed

each time you ress at the shrine you die immediately.

Uhm... no.
You won't die immediately unless you bring a vampiric weapon with you that kills off the 1 HP you were ressed with.

max should be 25k deaths not 3k... i have 3k on my warrior its not hard :x all you do is take healing hands mending frenzy and heal sig and you die fast

I think its a cool idea, but....

1) It would be far tooo easy to get and everyone would have it, because obviously the average player dies quite frequently.

2) Would you invite someone into a PUG who is displaying a death count title as a badge of honour? It suggests that either their "trying" to increase their death count and might purposely die, or that their prone to dying.

I like the idea. I think the title names you suggested are kind funny. But I can see it being used as an excuse to call people noobs.

Oh and it would make the KOABD title a alot easier to attain.

Making it easier to accomplish KOABD with this title is entirely besides the point.

It's just a pointless achievement to die as much as possible. PERIOD

/notsigned x 1000

I like the idea. I'd wear that title with pride. Well.. on my ele anyway.

It'd be to easy to afk the title.

The numbers need to be much higher, the highest rank should be more like 2,500,000 deaths.

55 health + -2 health regen weapon + dp + afk = gg, you just killed the title.

We don't need another incredibly easy title to afk for, sorry.

Thank you all very much for your input.

I can see that some of you don't like the idea of it being based on deaths, because dying repeatedly isn't really something to be proud of. Well, what if we changed it around, say, instead of basing it on how many times you died, what if it records how many times you came NEAR death and did NOT die.

For instance, if your health drops below 10% and you DO NOT die, then you get 1 point towards the title, and you need 100 points for the first rank. Doesn't that make things a little more interesting? You'd actually need some skill to get out of that situation. Besides, you would actually be taking risks and not just committing suicide You wouldn't be able to grind it, either.

I think it would be a title that you can wear proudly.

It's different from the Survivor title in that you literally have to take risks to get it. Instead of just staying at the back of a party and gaining exp. What would be really impressive is a Legendary Survivor with Suicidal Risktaker, don't you think?

There's different ways that the game could decide whether you deserve a point. It could add a point if your health goes back up to 70% from 10%, add a point when you stop taking damage or something else. I personally like the idea of gaining a point after your health raises above 70% from 10%.

What do you think? Is this better or worse? Is it now worthy of counting towards KOABD?

It's a better idea then the death title, but still not worthy of counting towards KoaBD. It's not really hard to get down to 10% health and stay alive, it would actually be quite easy in PvE.

Its not so much that people thought the title wasnt something to be proud of (that was just me who commented on that). Its the fact that its a very, very, very easy title to achieve.

Dieing is something you do frequently, and it isnt something you can stop or prevent unless your trying to. People would attain those titles without effort.

Having your health drop to near 10% is also something which happens frequently and cannot be prevented. It probably happens more frequently then dieing. This title would also be attained without effort.

Both a death or near death title wouldnt be something to be proud of in that case, because its very easily attained. A title should be something which isnt hard, but certainly isnt easy either.

Take protector for example. Its not hard to get at all, but it does take skill and determination. As does exploration which isnt easy, but its not impossible and it takes hard work and effort to achieve. Neither are titles which just fall into your lap like a death or near-death one.

And YES, adding easy titles does impact on titles such as KOABD. You obviously dont have it, or spent over a year getting it, otherwise you would appreciate that.

Its not that anyone thinks your idea is bad. Its just the title is far too easy to get. Its the kind of thing you could achieve in your sleep.

Well i doubt they would add it, beacuse it would be very easy to afk - and its not as difficult as obtaining the survivor title IMO. At any rate, i do still like the idea, I would love it if my characters that were made before titles had a chance at that, so it is a nice idea.

I see what you mean, thanks for your kind words, it's good to know that people like the idea.

/signed

I really like this idea. I'm part of the other camp (a hardcore Survivor title track hunter), but this will be a lot of fun to add as a title track for the people who can't be bothered to go with Survivor or are just more interested in this title track. Certain precautions will have to be taken, though, to make sure people will actually wear the titles or others will accept people with one of the titles in their name. One of the suggestions I make is to make quite a few attainable titles and give them funny names, so others can't associate them with a certain death number or 'noob'-factor (if you will) as quickly. I also suggest making the last title so hard to attain hardly anyone will be able to do it. Somewhere in the reach of ten million (yes, 10,000,000 ) deaths will do. This'll make sure it's not another title that will make 'Kind of a Big Deal' easier to farm. This is what I suggest:

100 deaths: Oops, I Slipped! (1)
500 deaths: D'oh! (2)
2000 deaths: What's This Button Do? (3)

This is where deaths stop being accidental and people start actually farming the title, so:

5000 deaths: Human Shield (4)
10,000 deaths: Voluntary Human Shield (5)
25,000 deaths: Expert Human Shield (6)
100,000 deaths: Unstoppable Human Shield (7)
250,000 deaths: Seen The Light (8)
1,000,000 deaths: Leeeroy Jenkins! (9)

And last of all, almost unattainable, but this'll make sure the Kind of a Big Deal title doesn't get too easy to farm:

10,000,000 deaths: DEATH REINCARNATE (10)

Making the names "funny" will make people not associate them with the players' noobiness or crapness as much and will actually make it fun for people the wear the titles. The 10,000,000 deaths title will be for the really hardcore title farmers and would actually make this title track viable to count towards Kind of a Big Deal. Most people would not get past 'Leeeroy Jenkins! (9)'.

Please make your own additions or different death-track name lists! The more ideas we give the developers, the easier/quicker/more viable it will be for them to implement.

HAHAHA, that's hilarious.