DOA ideas for alternatives to tank + nuke

Most of the builds I've seen in DOA rely on some form of tank + nuke, or trapping. While these work, they're slow, deaths are common, and it's hard to find a good tank or two who knows how to not only take damage, but how to work aggro well enough to get the monsters stuck on a corner and not rampaging into the backline.

That being said, here's a few ideas that might work, let me know what you think.

1: Ward ball
- Have everyone ball up inside ward vs melee, ward vs. elements, and ward vs. harm.

-Use greater conflagaration to ensure all damage is elemental, and much of it is fire.

-Individual characters use elemental resistance when applicable for +40 additional AL.

-Paragon spams defensive shouts for additional AL.

-Light of deliverance or healing burst (seriously) would be effective healing spells.

- Offense would be best as a spike to avoid the enraged conditon wiping the team, perhaps obsidian flame spike in PvE?

PROS: Impenetrable defense
CONS: Vulnerable to interrupts and armor ignoring damage, weak offense.

2. Supertanker

-Have an earth ele tank with obsidian flesh, sliver armor and SV be bonded tight. (Might work with echo shadow form assassin.)

- Other players on the tean cast hepful spirits from outside aggro range, such as QZ, famine, brambles, lacerate, etc.

-When the mob is narrowed down to 1-2 enemies, the rest of the team charges in and mops up.

I've actually tested this one and it works quite well, although the earth ele has to be fairly skilled.

PROS: Almost impossible to die, relatively easy to kill massive mobs

CONS: Can be difficult when mobs dwindle in size, tank must be very skilled, boring for the rest of the team to play, vulnerable to chilblains (in the foundry).

3. Just a bunch of shadow form assassins.

- Have a full team of shadow form assassins teleporting in, killing things, leaving, like the tombs farming build

PROS: Fairly simple to run, fun as heck

CONS: Vulnerable to chilblains and mystic twister

I sense this is draggin on a bit, so let me know what you think, or if there's some build exactly like this that I haven't heard of.

#3 sounds fun and pretty simple to test.........I'm in for a try (very accomplished at tombs/fissure soloing)

Number 3, might need a ts/vent server. Just because, I would think if some one mistimes their shadowstep they could probably lure back mobs while the others are all off healing up. Also, you could probably have them bring arcane mimicry since they all have the same elite for a third shadow form when needed.

for number 3 they could use shadow of haste+dash to get out of aggro range. it does sound fun.

for the ward ball, having 5 paragons or more can keep the "incoming" shout up, but i dont know if its feasible/useful.

the one area that #3 wouldn't work in is the one where you take damage every second you are moving.......

Yeah, the shadow form sins wouldn't work in the foundry or the gloom, which happen to be the two harder areas. Might work pretty well for a farming group for the other areas though. Too bad my sin is still on noob island in factions.

As for incoming, I think that's pretty much been nerfed into oblivion. Watch yourself and wards will have to do. I think the ward ball is the only one with a chance of beating foundry as well, since the titans like to spam chilblains a little too much for any enchants to stay up.

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