Extremely fun high damage mele N/D you have to try this! (for RA)

atreyu83

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

I'll start with the build first, and no i didnt come up with it.

Necro/Dervish

15 Death
9 Soulreaping
9 scythe mastery
8 Earth prayers

Contagion(E)
Dark aura
Plague touch
Wearying strike
Signet of agony
Signet of lost souls
mystic regeneration
Ressig

Basis of the build is synergy between Contagion and dark aura. If you get a condition on you Contagion triggers transfering that conidtion to nearby foes it sac's 5% hp which in turn triggers Dark aura for 50 armor ignoring damage.

Spike sequence goes as follows - with contagion, darkaura, and mystic running

Wearying strike (40ish scythe dmg+deepwound+weakness+50 dmg from dark aura) -- plague touch (Contagion only triggers when NEW conditions are applied)--Signet of agony (you sac 10% from agony, dark aura triggers, you sac from Contagion at the same time, dark aura triggers again, bleeding is spread)---- follow with another wearying strike for same result as above

This attack sequence will do ~300dmg +deepwound+bleeding+weakness

If you wanted to just do a quick spike as the previous sequence takes a few seconds you could simply open with weaying and immediatly follow with signet of agony this results in ~200ish dmg plus deepwound bleeding and weakness and takes about 1 second to execute

Funny thing in Randoms i have actually solo'd rangers by using nothing but plague touch. run up they put conditions on me like say if there using apply poison when they do, dark aura triggers and they get the condtion back i plauge touch they recondition me dark aura triggers again and so on till they die LOL. It is also kind of amusing when shadow prison ganksins attack me they often die themselves. Every condition they apply to me they get applied to them and at the same time take darkaura damage.

Overall this build has been more fun than ive had for a while in randoms. My survivability isnt too bad either with mystic giving me +9hp regen. So give this a try its a blast.

Oh and btw i noticed a strange thing about plague touch for some reason it will always plague touch bleeding before weakness even if i apply weakness to myself last it will always transfer the bleeding first oh well...

**Have not tested this on a Dervish/necro although now that i think about that could work also you would lose some damage from dark aura and sac more life but might make it up with having higher armor you'd also gain another skill slot as you'd drop signet of lost souls**

BohemianKeith

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Sounds pretty nice, gonna try it out in the morning. Good work thinking of way to integrate dark aura and a dervish

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

*must try myself*

Wrath Of Dragons

Wrath Of Dragons

Burninate Stuff

Join Date: Aug 2005

New Mexico

E/Mo

i see lots of silly little RA builds in these forums........this one actually is brilliant, at least on paper. props

Dutch Masterr

Dutch Masterr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Long Island, NY

Elite Knights [SWAT]

W/

definatley going to try this build in AB and replace rez sig with crippling sweep or aura of thorns. this is one of the best ideas for a build ive seen on these forums...not to mention its 100% original.

D Fault

D Fault

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Black Rose Gaming [BR]

Ran it in GvG today...oh so fun

Dutch Masterr

Dutch Masterr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Long Island, NY

Elite Knights [SWAT]

W/

wow....i ran this build in AB and replaced res sig with armor of sanctity....this build owns. go stand in the middle of a mob (especially a mob of minions) with contagion, dark aura, armor of sanctity and mystic regen on and hit signet of agony for MASSIVE AoE. then hit wearying strike for even more...i love this build.

Emik

Emik

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Belgium

[FaRM] Farm For The Win

N/

I suppose an Enchanting modded Scythe is the best option for this build? Making them last longer..
Also... Do you think a Sup Soul Reaping Rune would make you more vulnerable or not? Less health to sac but also less health to go with.

Deffo going to try this one as it sounds pretty devestating

gogoblender

gogoblender

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Montreal, Canada

HOw does this build work with heroes
Any good?
And/or is it possible to minimally mod it?
Ty


gogo

carbajac

carbajac

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Medicine Cabinet [PILL]

E/

I've been trying this out in ra and it is very nice. Using Signet of Agony comes at a hefty price: 15% of your health + 40 from Dark Aura, but it's oh so worth it. I replaced Signet of Lost Souls with Aura of Thorns because energy was not a huge issue and it helps snare those runners.

One fun aspect is that I had a trapper get everything back to him + damage from Contagion + Dark Aura, very cool to see him limp away from his own traps.

Edit:
Oh, another fun experience with this build was in AB. My team got overrun by a mob and I was attacked by a couple of assassins, dervishes and warriors. They did kill me, but since they're so condition happy, every single one of them limped away from my body with all kinds of conditions on them. Good times.

jesh

jesh

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, CA

Penguin Village

Mo/

Another cool necro idea! *claps*
I've gotta try this.

Metasynaptic

Metasynaptic

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

W/N

The bonus scythe 'icy soulbreaker of enchanting' works great with this build.

Jeff Highwind

Jeff Highwind

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Grenth's Rejects [GR]

R/Mo

Looks like I gotta buy 6 new skills and a 2ndary change.

TheFirebringer

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2006

Atreyu83 maybe u saw this build ingame, but the build (or the basics if u want to be precise) are posted on another *unnamed* forum by Halfthought. Don't know if u saw it there but its nice to give people credit for comming up with good builds.
So lots of kudo's for u Halfthought

Backspace496

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Masterr
definatley going to try this build in AB and replace rez sig with crippling sweep or aura of thorns. this is one of the best ideas for a build ive seen on these forums...not to mention its 100% original. not really.

Scroll Down to "Notes."

Jesse

Jesse

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

New York

Vanquishing Memories [VM]

Mo/Me

sounds super fun...im going to try this right away. Thanks for the build

Kaida the Heartless

Kaida the Heartless

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

N/

I'm impressed. I actually feel the need to deprive myself of sleep to try this build out! Sigh, sometimes being an avid Necro fan is just too much.

I've been looking for a solid Contagion build but have not found one until now!

Can't wait to test 'er out!

*gigglefit*

Edit: Have you tried throwing in Reap Impurities in place of Signet of Lost Souls to help counter the self-saccing? I'm not quite sure what the energy management deal would be after that but I think it would be worth a try, yes?

Chewbacca Defense

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

667 Neighbour of the Beast

Ttgr

Quick question:

Would Dark Aura trigger twice if you had minions + infuse condition?

[skill]Infuse Condition[/skill][skill]Animate Bone Minions[/skill]

atreyu83

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFirebringer
Atreyu83 maybe u saw this build ingame, but the build (or the basics if u want to be precise) are posted on another *unnamed* forum by Halfthought. Don't know if u saw it there but its nice to give people credit for comming up with good builds.
So lots of kudo's for u Halfthought The only guild wars forum i read is guildwarsguru. I saw somthing similar to this being ran in randoms. I dont remmeber the name of the guy was was running it. There is a reason that in the the first line of my post i said "no i didn't come up with it," in order to avoid being bombarded with the annoying "i though of that first" and "ur build isnt original" type posts.

Emik

Emik

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Belgium

[FaRM] Farm For The Win

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chewbacca Defense
Quick question:

Would Dark Aura trigger twice if you had minions + infuse condition?

[skill]Infuse Condition[/skill][skill]Animate Bone Minions[/skill] [skill]Dark Aura[/skill][skill]Contagion[/skill]

No it wouldn't afaik.
Dark Aura gets triggered by the life sac of Contagion.
Since you don't suffer the conditions that are required to let Contagion sac your life, thereby triggering Dark Aura and instead transfer it to a minion it's pretty logic that the entire build will fail.

BassVII

BassVII

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Right here

N/

Just tried it out....this is really fun and causes a lot of dmg! It's awesome what necros can do...hehe

ManM

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

I've been running a similar build in Aspenwood every once in awhile, but as a suicide bomber. Same principle, minus healing, plus death nova.

clawofcrimson

clawofcrimson

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Crimson Claw

W/

[card]Contagion[/card][card]Dark aura[/card][card]Plague touch[/card][card]Wearying strike[/card][card]Signet of agony[/card][card]Signet of lost souls[/card] [card]mystic regeneration[/card] ~optional~

because I am a visual person


I was wanting to see a good build that has n/d with scythe

and to the op.... shadow damage is not armour ignoring... to the base armour

clawofcrimson

clawofcrimson

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Crimson Claw

W/

after a fun night of trying this out i added [card]death nova[/card] and another sac life for a suicide bomb! fun fun

jesh

jesh

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

San Diego, CA

Penguin Village

Mo/

I like the general concept, and deep wound on a caster is definitely nice. The thing is.. it doesn't have much survivability, even with Consume Corpse.
Maybe go ele for Stoneflesh or some crap.. or monk for a 55ish thing.

Emik

Emik

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Belgium

[FaRM] Farm For The Win

N/

Well yes and no.
It's true that the build itself has a higher survivability rate when you got a lower HP (which on it's own is a bit strange)
Mystic Regenration has a better regen offer when you got less HP to recover.
BUT that also means that you're a big target for massive spike damage.
Also you're very vulnerable for heavy degen.
While Mystic Regeneration has a +3 health regen per enchantment, any heavy degen build can easily overpower your regen into a degen and then you have to rely on Signet of Lost Souls to recover the health lost. And with its rather high rechargetime this is not a valuable countermeasure.
Never the less it's a build suited fo rRA and AB so i'm sure this build can have it's effect when you rush into a Whammo who thinks he can kick the living **** out of you because you're a squishy

clawofcrimson

clawofcrimson

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Crimson Claw

W/

you are not as vulnerable as you think... this is what i run in AB

[card]Contagion[/card][card]Dark aura[/card][card]verata's aura[/card][card]Wearying strike[/card][card]Signet of agony[/card][card]death nova[/card] [card]mystic regeneration[/card] [card]blood of the aggressor[/card]




basically with this many enchants up... you have over 10 regen with mystic regen...

and even if they get you... you will takem out in the end...I soloed many a melee fighter with this build....(beware grenth dervish)... at one point I took out two sins by myself and was still standing

MrTickle

MrTickle

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

delete this account

N/

Great build. I'm also using it for my master of whispers and it seems to be working for him too.

[Edit]
Just took Master of Whispers with me to help a guild mate get his 15 attribute points in Tyria. He kicked A** He's like a pit bull. I love this build!

I'm using [skill]Contagion[/skill][skill]Dark Aura[/skill][skill]Mystic Regeneration[/skill][skill]Signet of Agony[/skill][skill]Wearying Strike[/skill][skill]Death Nova[/skill][skill]Soul Feast[/skill][skill]resurrection signet[/skill]

I use Death Nova for a bit of extra damage and Soul Feast for a health boost once he starts to rack up some kills.

trankle

trankle

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

BloodBath & Beyond

Rt/

This can also work very well as a D/N. The damage output is comaparable, but with higher armor, and the opportunity for some mysticism enchants.

I posted the D/N variant on wiki a few weeks back. If anyone has experience with the build, positive or negative, feel free to contribute.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:D...tagious_Reaper

marmaduke

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

I know this is an older thread but thought I'd revive it with my great experiences in PvE.

I modified this build for Master of Whispers and I'm absolutely loving it. In addition to the standard:
1) Contagion
2) Dark Aura
3) Signet of Agony
4) Wearying Strike
5) Plague Touch

...I veered at this point and did not bother dumping points into Earth prayers. I instead went curses and got Chiliblains. Titans and rain beetles are a breeze with all enchantments gone

For survivability, I gave him a single minion raising spell (shambling horror) as well as dark bond. I'm not sure if dark bond's 75% damage reduction is applied to the damage you suffer from dark aura but, regardless, it allows him to tank incredibly while letting contagion do its work.

The only weak point is when the character is just setting out from an outpost and has no minions - he is of course very vulnerable then.

...also of note, the factions spell, Oppressive Gaze, could be worked in with more energy management. It behaves as a spammable AE life tap against weakened foes.

.Unanimous.

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

Majestic Dragons [MaD]

N/W

Status; NOOB
Notes; do not be condescending in replies, i realise i know nothing.

ok here's the deal, i want to start a necromancer, and i want to look ahead and plan a build for reaching lvl 20. It's going to be PvE, i just wanted to now if this build is worth any bother using in PvE? or if there is any build similar to this? or if there is anyother form of necro - tank using a melee weapon. (never used necro before, well actually i have but that's for another time.)

carbajac

carbajac

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Medicine Cabinet [PILL]

E/

Well, you're not gonna be doing much tanking with this build if that's what you mean. Mystic Regeneration is hardly enough to keep you alive against high level mobs. This build would work in PvE, you just can't be the first one in.

| Cleric |

| Cleric |

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Death To Society [syke]

N/Me

normal first five skills

Then try armor of sanctity, convition, mystic regeneration. These skills won't stop a mob from running over you, but they will definetly keep you alive longer in those 1 on 3s and 1 on 2s.

I find it easy to kill sins and rangers, a little bit harder to kill warriors and paragons, and pretty hard to kill eles (especially since so many of them do massive AoEs in RA and AB).

Absinth187

Absinth187

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

32??45′26.49″N, 97??19′59.45″W

Some Like It Hot [sake]

Quote:
Originally Posted by vespertine
to avoid mocking yourself i suggest you'd read the whole thread next time, k?! LOL good advice

bobrath

bobrath

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Scouts of Tyria

Perhaps you should also point out that he read the date stamps on the posts? Or would that be too helpful?