Prophecies Pre-order weapons

Durik Lakmor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Missouri

Pearl of Great Price

R/Mo

As many long-time players may or may not know, the prophcies campaign had its own set of pre-order weapons, though this varied depending on where you pre-ordered from.

However, since the game was just launching they did not want to give out perfect items, so for example the Ithas Bow I have from EB Games' pre-order is req 10 marksmanship* and has 13-25 dmg with armor +5.

*originally the dmg was req 10 and the armor was req 10 expertise, this has been changed along with the skin of the bow if I am not mistaken, so changes to these weapons are possible.

I would love and probably use the Ithas bow as my primary bow, if only it were max damage, why it isn't now is beyond me. I would suggest changing this as it has been changed to have lower req (just 10 marks instead of 10 exp/marks) and all the other pre-order weapons have been max damage since. I know it is a small thing to ask but it would be nice to use my Ithas bow as many people don't even know what one is now.

Talic

Talic

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Durance Of Fate [DoF]

W/

I also, have an ithas bow. I wish I could use it =(.

I asked gaile one time, in the international districts... she answered that: "I might ask about it" and never said anything else.

Faction Gambler

Faction Gambler

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

I also agree that the preorder items be buffed. I really like the skin of Ithas Bow as well.

ZennZero

ZennZero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

R/

Most of the Prophesies Preorder items utility is in pre-searing, where they are among the most powerful items you can get.

Incidently, if on the off chance anyone has an unused pre-order key for the Bone Idol, War Pick or (especially) the Chimeric Prisim, I will Paypal you a nice sum.

Rion

Rion

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Blashyrkh

I have the Chimeric Prism. I love it, though it's rarely useful, it's nice to have.

Mr_T_bot

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZennZero
Most of the Prophesies Preorder items utility is in pre-searing, where they are among the most powerful items you can get.
Wrong. In pre-searing (and most of the game), they only have the base damage, energy, or armor for the weapon type, focus, or shield respectively due to their high requirements. Once you find a single weapon that exceeds the base damage, the weapons become useless. Combine that with the fact that their bonuses have such high requirements as well, which don't become active until at least the end of the Ascalon section of the story. Anyone saying that Prophecies pre-order weapons are good in pre-searing (or anywhere for that matter) is either stupid or lying.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

Unless they buffed the Prophecies Pre-Order items.... there not that good actually. There not max dmg, requirment or stat.

They look cool but the Factions/Nightfall pre-order items as well as the game of the year are far better.

You can add the keys to your account at any time (if you can find them).

They were higher power, then nerfed before the game launched. And been medicore ever since.

King's Spectre

King's Spectre

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Syracuse, NY, USA

The Amazon Basin (AB)

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot
Wrong. In pre-searing (and most of the game), they only have the base damage, energy, or armor for the weapon type, focus, or shield respectively due to their high requirements. Once you find a single weapon that exceeds the base damage, the weapons become useless. Combine that with the fact that their bonuses have such high requirements as well, which don't become active until at least the end of the Ascalon section of the story. Anyone saying that Prophecies pre-order weapons are good in pre-searing (or anywhere for that matter) is either stupid or lying.
Woah! Easy there. There are a lot of folks who like to have high-level characters in pre. Before the "game of the year" items came out, these preorder items were one of the few ways to get a high damage weapon in pre. The prysm is one of the coolest items in the game - wish I had one. Think of how much a +5 energy max shield would sell for if you could sell them..

WetWookie

WetWookie

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

I'd also like my Ithas bow to be useful.

Skawtt

Skawtt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oregon

W/N

I wish my Canthan Targe had the max armor level on it and could be dyed.

Rion

Rion

Academy Page

Join Date: Apr 2005

Blashyrkh

Quote:
Originally Posted by King's Spectre
The prysm is one of the coolest items in the game - wish I had one. Think of how much a +5 energy max shield would sell for if you could sell them..
Yeah it is cool but it really is rarely useful. I think the only thing I use mine for is when I run P/R Packhunter because it's basically a lesser shield that uses Expertise as a requirement.

Mr_T_bot

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by King's Spectre
Woah! Easy there. There are a lot of folks who like to have high-level characters in pre. Before the "game of the year" items came out, these preorder items were one of the few ways to get a high damage weapon in pre. The prysm is one of the coolest items in the game - wish I had one. Think of how much a +5 energy max shield would sell for if you could sell them..
The Prism is the only remotely worthwhile one and it wasn't released in the initial batch, which is why it isn't totally worthless.

EDIT: In fact, the improvement of the Prism over the earlier pre-order items is an unsigned admittance that the initial batch was pretty lame.

Jeremy Untouchable

Jeremy Untouchable

Wow Stole my freetime

Join Date: Mar 2006

Arkansas

None

W/E

I vote yes on buffing these items. And i dont even have them.

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

As far as buffing goes. Make the pre-order items and such moddable.

DevilStick

DevilStick

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

East Coast US

On the off chance someone has an unused Chimeric Prism key, I have a collection of unused preorders from each chapter and I'd be interested in a trade.

ZennZero

ZennZero

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by King's Spectre
Woah! Easy there. There are a lot of folks who like to have high-level characters in pre. Before the "game of the year" items came out, these preorder items were one of the few ways to get a high damage weapon in pre. The prysm is one of the coolest items in the game - wish I had one. Think of how much a +5 energy max shield would sell for if you could sell them..
Right you are. Be careful or you will be labeled "stupid" or a "liar". . . I forgot about the GOTY weapons. I guess those supersede all of the Prophesies preorders (except the Chimeric Prism, of course).

@Mr_T_bot

Relax, Crazy McHostile. These weapons are useful in pre-searing as long as you meet the (admittedly high) requirements. They are certainly better than any drops you can get there. Obviously the < lvl 10 player wouldn't have much use for them, but plenty of people keep higher level alts there.

nbajammer

nbajammer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Iowa

Blade And Rose [BaR]

Mo/

It'd be nice if they also bundled these into a package a la GOTY weapons and offered them as a bit of an upgrade for those people who just have to have them all (but if not, Id be willing to buy Proph pre-order keys that are unusued at a reasonable price when I get some money). But I would understand if they don't, since the GOTY upgrade items pretty much supersede those preorder items.

DevilStick

DevilStick

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

East Coast US

I doubt they will make the original preorder weapons available again, simply because (like the divine aura) they were dubbed "exclusive" at the time. I don't think they ever called the GoTY weapons exclusive.

nbajammer

nbajammer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Iowa

Blade And Rose [BaR]

Mo/

Even if they didn't, they pretty much were - the only way to get the GOTY weapons was to buy the GOTY edition (here in America). Of course, I paid for the upgrade so my heroes can use some better and more versatile (even though not really leet) weapons.

DevilStick

DevilStick

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

East Coast US

I did the same thing (added a GoTY key to my main account). Later they made the GoTY upgrade available, and while I was a little bummed I didn't worry too much about it. I added the GoTY knowing full well that they might make the weapons available (there were rumors). I simply didn't want to take a chance that they would go the way of the dodo like the divine aura.

nbajammer

nbajammer

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Iowa

Blade And Rose [BaR]

Mo/

Which is why I'd like to see the pre-order weapons bundled as an upgrade - yeah they arent the best, nor are they max - but they shouldnt go the way of the dodo due to the different skin. Plus, most people who preordered Proph only received 1 of the items and for someone like me who wants to have it all it'd be nice to have. I have the War Pick on my little-used 2nd account (the one that was my 2nd became my main) and I'd love to have it on my main even though I now have the Sundering Rhino's Charge.

Firebaall

Firebaall

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot
Wrong. In pre-searing (and most of the game), they only have the base damage, energy, or armor for the weapon type, focus, or shield respectively due to their high requirements. Once you find a single weapon that exceeds the base damage, the weapons become useless. Combine that with the fact that their bonuses have such high requirements as well, which don't become active until at least the end of the Ascalon section of the story. Anyone saying that Prophecies pre-order weapons are good in pre-searing (or anywhere for that matter) is either stupid or lying.
lol...

Need a cloth to wipe the egg from your face?

I carry a level 17 Warrior in Pre (and it's working on the defender of Ascalon title) that might disagree with your comment. I use pre-order and GOTY weaps. Big damage, without having to pay for black market golds or other post gear that was glitched into pre (and patched), before I even started playing GW.

So does this mean I'm telling a lie, or that am I stupid? Nope....

...it just means you're ignorant.

Mr_T_bot

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Firebaall
lol...

Need a cloth to wipe the egg from your face?

I carry a level 17 Warrior in Pre (and it's working on the defender of Ascalon title) that might disagree with your comment. I use pre-order and GOTY weaps. Big damage, without having to pay for black market golds or other post gear that was glitched into pre (and patched), before I even started playing GW.

So does this mean I'm telling a lie, or that am I stupid? Nope....

...it just means you're ignorant.
I vote for stupid. People were never meant to get to high level in pre-searing and had been patched to try and fix it happened (it was only very recently recognized as a sign of concession). Thus these weapons were never meant for that purpose. To argue that is what it is for is stupid. Because it can be used for that doesn't matter, they are still crap weapons post searing and pre for the standard user.

Firebaall

Firebaall

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot
I vote for stupid. People were never meant to get to high level in pre-searing and had been patched to try and fix it happened (it was only very recently recognized as a sign of concession). Thus these weapons were never meant for that purpose. To argue that is what it is for is stupid. Because it can be used for that doesn't matter, they are still crap weapons post searing and pre for the standard user.
lol...

It's like poking a troll.

Voting for "stupid" while demonstrating your mastery of english grammar is amusing.

1) Pre-Searing level 20's are a fact

2) The death leveling that allowed this to be achieved was purposely reinstated and a title track was installed to honour those that achieved level 20.

Foot in the mouth? Good....maybe we can stop feeding the trolls then.

Mr_T_bot

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Firebaall
1) Pre-Searing level 20's are a fact
I obviously didn't state the obvious well enough last time. People were not meant to get to level 20 in pre-searing. In fact, patches were made to stop it.

Quote:
2) The death leveling that allowed this to be achieved was purposely reinstated and a title track was installed to honour those that achieved level 20.
Oh, so you did understood what I said, you just ignored it to be stubborn. You just admitted that the trick to reach level 20 was originally realized and fixed so people could no longer do it, then reinstated and honored? So Arena Net conceded a handful of die-hards wanted to level to 20 so reinstated it.

Now let's see you actually counter my arguments instead of being a self-righteous punk.

Firebaall

Firebaall

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot
Anyone saying that Prophecies pre-order weapons are good in pre-searing (or anywhere for that matter) is either stupid or lying.
Do you have A.D.D.? Do you even remember what you say 60 seconds after you spew your thought onto the forum? The whole "argument" is based off of your arrogant attitute displayed at the start of this thread.

Even without "death leveling" it was possible to make level 16 in Pre Searing. No "trick" involved. At level 16, pre order and GOTY weapons are fantastic in Pre Searing.

Sorry, but you keep proving that evolution missed a few steps in your family gene pool.