Ebon Daggers.
Death Blossom.
Ebon Dust Aura.
Does it do what I think it should do?
If so, I might have to consider making another speciality build for Chae Soon besides his standard A/Me ID+ and the A/N SS variants.
[For the incredibly dim, I'm asking whether an Assassin / Dervish with Ebon Daggers and Ebon Dust Aura active using Death Blossom will cause blindness to all enemies in the area as struck by the dual-attack skill in question.]
A/D query... Ebon nastiness...
SotiCoto
Seren!ty
No it doesn't, I just tested it in the Isle of the Nameless
Arteful Dodger
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
[For the incredibly dim, I'm asking whether an Assassin / Dervish with Ebon Daggers and Ebon Dust Aura active using Death Blossom will cause blindness to all enemies in the area as struck by the dual-attack skill in question.] |
SotiCoto
That...... sucks. Ah well... so much for that idea.
But still... I suppose I could afford to try Ebon Dust Aura in an alternative Shiro-Killer build. Precisely why I need two separate builds for killing Shiro Tagachi.... I don't rightly know. Just seems like a fun idea to be able to repeatedly r4pe the end-of-factions boss.
But still... I suppose I could afford to try Ebon Dust Aura in an alternative Shiro-Killer build. Precisely why I need two separate builds for killing Shiro Tagachi.... I don't rightly know. Just seems like a fun idea to be able to repeatedly r4pe the end-of-factions boss.
Wacky
Unfortunately not. The AOE damage from death blossom does not count as hitting things (which is also a good thing in that it'll get them even if they're using whirling defense).
Yichi
It also doesn't work with a ranger with barrage. only the targeted enemy is hit with blind.
Turbobusa
how could you use barrage with ebon dust aura anyway
SotiCoto
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Originally Posted by Arteful Dodger
I'm sure that statement will win you a lot of support and answers as well.
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The number of times I've written something and someone pops up and asks me for explanations of the very simplest concepts is quite astounding.
Since I like making vague, shorthand posts... rather than change that, I sometimes just give a detailed explanation somewhere... along with my typical lowscale biting criticism for people who desperately need fundamental ideas explained.
[Yes... I do tend to be arrogant and antisocial... but I assure you its entirely genetic. You can blame my parents.]
Aera
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
I've learnt to idiot-proof my posts the hard way.
The number of times I've written something and someone pops up and asks me for explanations of the very simplest concepts is quite astounding. Since I like making vague, shorthand posts... rather than change that, I sometimes just give a detailed explanation somewhere... along with my typical lowscale biting criticism for people who desperately need fundamental ideas explained. [Yes... I do tend to be arrogant and antisocial... but I assure you its entirely genetic. You can blame my parents.] |
The fact that you had to ask it makes you stupid to start off with. it says "...and all adjacent foes take xx dmg". Where does it say it hits them ( and so blinds them ? ). Might have thought of that one yourself.
Don't worry, I still wub you
SotiCoto
Meh. Doesn't say that its elemental damage, or indeed any particular damage type. I just figured that since it was an assassin dagger attack with unspecified type that it was part of the attack.
And if we really want to get into semantics.... I wasn't questioning something that anyone else had written; merely pondering a thought that came to my mind having reviewed what little was available to me.
^_^
As an interesting thought... though slightly unconnected... how come there isn't an Earth Magic equivalent to the Fire, Air and Water magic invokey spells that make weapons of a particular elemental type do extra elemental damage? I want extra Ebon damage, damnit!
And if we really want to get into semantics.... I wasn't questioning something that anyone else had written; merely pondering a thought that came to my mind having reviewed what little was available to me.
^_^
As an interesting thought... though slightly unconnected... how come there isn't an Earth Magic equivalent to the Fire, Air and Water magic invokey spells that make weapons of a particular elemental type do extra elemental damage? I want extra Ebon damage, damnit!
DeanBB
"I'm using conjure dirt!"
It just sounds wrong.
But yeah, it does seem like it is missing all things considered.
It just sounds wrong.
But yeah, it does seem like it is missing all things considered.
Yanman.be
Allow me to demonstrate:
[For the incredibly dim, if you actually read Death Blossom, you'll notice you don't hit adjacent foes, they just take damage, so Ebon Dust Aura won't work.]
[For the incredibly dim, if you actually read Death Blossom, you'll notice you don't hit adjacent foes, they just take damage, so Ebon Dust Aura won't work.]
SotiCoto
I don't suppose Ebon Dust Aura does anything to the various assassin attacks that already cause Earth damage, does it?
For some reason I've forgotten the names of them... but the impaley one which comes after Dual-Attacks and the triple thrown dagger thing you get right at the start... They both cause Earth damage and are attacks... right? Would those cause blindness?
[Addendum: I'm not sure about the daggers now I think about it. Does it being labelled as a half-ranged spell mean it isn't an attack at all, despite the fact that it counts as a lead attack for combos if I remember rightly?]
For some reason I've forgotten the names of them... but the impaley one which comes after Dual-Attacks and the triple thrown dagger thing you get right at the start... They both cause Earth damage and are attacks... right? Would those cause blindness?
[Addendum: I'm not sure about the daggers now I think about it. Does it being labelled as a half-ranged spell mean it isn't an attack at all, despite the fact that it counts as a lead attack for combos if I remember rightly?]
Yichi
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Originally Posted by Turbobusa
how could you use barrage with ebon dust aura anyway
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Tachyon
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Originally Posted by MistressYichi
It also doesn't work with a ranger with barrage. only the targeted enemy is hit with blind.
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Seren!ty
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Originally Posted by MistressYichi
because ebon dust aura is an enchantment, not a preperation, so therefore you can have enchantments up and use barrage
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SotiCoto
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Originally Posted by Yanman.be
Allow me to demonstrate:
[For the incredibly dim, if you actually read Death Blossom, you'll notice you don't hit adjacent foes, they just take damage, so Ebon Dust Aura won't work.] |
I'm all too aware of how often skill descriptions don't accurately match what is happening in the system, so I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Or perhaps you haven't had the necessary training (or mental capacity) to learn the difference between what genuinely is obvious and what isn't... This would be a case of the latter rather than the former, and if it weren't then it wouldn't have to be tested to be confirmed false.
Tachyon
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Just to bad they are both elites
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Seren!ty
Or go R/Me with barrage and Arcane Mimicry. You will need a Dervish though.
SotiCoto
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Yeah, but you can test it out when you go to cap EDA as you temporarily get access to two elites.
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Might be worth testing, but since it could only be used in the area where one or other was captured then its probably not going to be too useful either way.
Seren!ty
Barrage arrows are attacks, so it will work.
Yichi
i went r/me with arcane mimmicry and no it didnt work. i wanted to test if it would.
BladeDVD
Just tested Ebon Dust Aura with Cyclone Axe and Barrage and it will apply the blindness to every target you hit.
To test Barrage, I put Arcane Mimicry on my Dervish (along w/EDA and Dust Cloak) and Barrage on a hero...mimicked Barrage, activated the other two skills and attacked the aggro circle dummies on the isle of the nameless. The condition icon showed up on every target hit by Barrage...could see the dark speckly cloud on them too.
Made Koss a W/D to test Cyclone Axe. Similar results.
Did your bow do earth damage? You need to do earth damage to activate the blindness. That took me a bit of time to remember and get around myself.
First I tried Arcane Thievering the skill, but that only works on enemies. Which is why I made my Dervish a D/Me and used Arcane Mimicry to get the Barrage elite from another hero, while having the 2 Derv. skills on my Dervish.
To test Barrage, I put Arcane Mimicry on my Dervish (along w/EDA and Dust Cloak) and Barrage on a hero...mimicked Barrage, activated the other two skills and attacked the aggro circle dummies on the isle of the nameless. The condition icon showed up on every target hit by Barrage...could see the dark speckly cloud on them too.
Made Koss a W/D to test Cyclone Axe. Similar results.
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i went r/me with arcane mimmicry and no it didnt work. i wanted to test if it would.
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First I tried Arcane Thievering the skill, but that only works on enemies. Which is why I made my Dervish a D/Me and used Arcane Mimicry to get the Barrage elite from another hero, while having the 2 Derv. skills on my Dervish.
Angelica
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
[For the incredibly dim, I'm asking whether an Assassin / Dervish with Ebon Daggers and Ebon Dust Aura active using Death Blossom will cause blindness to all enemies in the area as struck by the dual-attack skill in question.]
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
I've learnt to idiot-proof my posts the hard way.
The number of times I've written something and someone pops up and asks me for explanations of the very simplest concepts is quite astounding. Since I like making vague, shorthand posts... rather than change that, I sometimes just give a detailed explanation somewhere... along with my typical lowscale biting criticism for people who desperately need fundamental ideas explained. [Yes... I do tend to be arrogant and antisocial... but I assure you its entirely genetic. You can blame my parents.] |
[sarcasm]Plus "shorthand" is a completly different way of writing, which I'm not sure you know how to do![/sarcasm]
SotiCoto
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Originally Posted by Angelica
I'm really offended by your quote:"For the incredibly dim", it is rude and unnecessary. This is still a game not an IQ test.
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You probably hadn't picked this up, but there are very few things in this world that offend me (I do try to avoid being a hypocrite where possible).
Besides... life is unnecessary. Everything is unnecessary. Even mentioning that is superfluous (and typically indicative of the kind of society-favouring conservative attitude I tend to clash with on a regular basis).
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Besides... its not as if they're any more special than anyone else on the planet. My father is dead and my mother has done her job and moved to another country (and as such I have little further use for her).
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[sarcasm]Plus "shorthand" is a completly different way of writing, which I'm not sure you know how to do![/sarcasm] |
Angelica
I only will say your lack of sensibility/feeling is astounding!
No further comments on my part, you scare me!
No further comments on my part, you scare me!
SotiCoto
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I only will say your lack of sensibility/feeling is astounding!
No further comments on my part, you scare me! |
Lack of feeling makes me stronger. I'm not sure why it surprises you so. Its not that difficult to achieve.