Now that vista is in retail im wondering if anyone have any problems with vista and guild wars? im running 32 bit vista and it looks good so far.
my system specs:nvidia gforce 8800gts
asus a8n mb w onboard sound
amd 3000+ (bout to be replaced very soon:P)
1gb ddr (going up to 3gb soon..)
hardest part was getting my gpu working.
heres link to 8800 drivers for vista (beta.. but only one out there that works on vista for the 88s..)
http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=1554
only problem i can see after some hours of testing is when new maps is loading, the screen goes black a sec. when match/instance starts all is ok.
i do not know how it works on 64 bit, so if anyone tested plz tell if its work or not.
(i tried to search for vista posts but the only i found was for the beta version, so sorry if this has been posted before)
windows vista and guildwars. experiences. gf8800
Petrus
AOD_EaSyKiLL
I just got my system formatted and installed with Vista. A few more hours of the -image and I will be playing. I will post in my results.
Im running the following setup:
Athlon 64 X2 5200+
Gigabyte 8800GTX
2gb OCZ ddr2
MSI K9A Platinum
I was getting 150+ fps in most areas (about 80-100 fps in Kamadan 1) at max settings 1280x1024 at full in game AA under XP, so we will see.
Im running the following setup:
Athlon 64 X2 5200+
Gigabyte 8800GTX
2gb OCZ ddr2
MSI K9A Platinum
I was getting 150+ fps in most areas (about 80-100 fps in Kamadan 1) at max settings 1280x1024 at full in game AA under XP, so we will see.
Chewbacca Defense
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I was getting 150+ fps in most areas (about 80-100 fps in Kamadan 1) at max settings 1280x1024 at full in game AA under XP, so we will see.
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Well could be worse I guess.
Thibor
I feel your pain Chewbacca. I average about 15 fps myself. Saving up for a new rig now though 
Elemeninki
I average at about 30, but can go to 45 and as low as 15 sometimes. It's ok for me though.
Dawnspire
I havent had any problems since RC1, it even ran in Beta2
p4 3gz
radeon x1600xt
1.5gb ram
just a silly old Vaio vgcrb53
p4 3gz
radeon x1600xt
1.5gb ram
just a silly old Vaio vgcrb53
knoll
Need 2gb ram to have Vista run well.
Petrus
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Need 2gb ram to have Vista run well.
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guildwars is a game thats looks amazing yet requires very little of your system... im running gw on vista with no memory problems att all..and i have 1 gb
Yanman.be
It's funny how most games (fps'es ) need 20 fps+ to be playable. In PvP I often get below 10 fps and it doesn't harm my gameplay.
MirkoTeran
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Originally Posted by Petrus
only problem i can see after some hours of testing is when new maps is loading, the screen goes black a sec. when match/instance starts all is ok.
i do not know how it works on 64 bit, so if anyone tested plz tell if its work or not. |
The other little problem I notices is that switching from fullscreen to windows takes a bit longer than in XP.
AOD_EaSyKiLL
Yeah, I get the screen blink as well, but the switch didn't knock much off my frame rate, maybe 10%, but when I'm over a 100fps most of the time I don't notice anyway.
EternalTempest
When I was running Vista Release Candidate 2
Geforce 7600
Amd (Single Core) Athlon 64 3400+ (old 754 pin cpu)
and 1 gb of ram
GuildWars ran fine
Still waiting on my vista upgrade to come in (weeks after Jan 31)
Geforce 7600
Amd (Single Core) Athlon 64 3400+ (old 754 pin cpu)
and 1 gb of ram
GuildWars ran fine
Still waiting on my vista upgrade to come in (weeks after Jan 31)
darksiege
One question, are you guys getting 100+ fps in town with 16xQ AA and 16x AF?
jesh
GW has always been buggy as heck with outside AA/AF enabled. I think that all you can do is enable AA through the options menu. This might have changed in the 8800 series, but I don't see why Nvidia would engineer drivers for a game that's easy to run anyways. Typically they only optimize for big titles and benchmarks.
EternalTempest
During the vista development there were multiple sources (including respected ones) that were complaining or hinting at Nvidia Driver development and Vista issues with the blame being on Nvidia's end.
This has most likely changed or will be fixed very shortly. Again, it ran fine with me without AA/AF which I normally don't run.
This has most likely changed or will be fixed very shortly. Again, it ran fine with me without AA/AF which I normally don't run.
RinLian
Their support for video is god-awful anyway, supposedly. (As far as Vista's concern). That's not the only issues Vista's had.
AOD_EaSyKiLL
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One question, are you guys getting 100+ fps in town with 16xQ AA and 16x AF?
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I don't want to start an Nvidia flame fest, but the 8800GTX is the first Nvidia card Ive bought since ATI made the 8500 and I am very disappointed in thier support. Not that Ive had problems with the card, but to produce and advertise a card as being designed for Vista/DX10, then not have drivers for it for a long time (technically they still don't) is totally inexcusable. The way they policed thier forums when people began to realise that they couldn't use thier $700 dollar card was inexcusable. The lack of a definitive statement announcing that there are no Vista drivers and that they wouldn't be comming any time soon, put a nail in the coffin for me. My initial plan when I purchased this card was to just get me some good performance until ATI released a DX10 card, then if ATI was better, I'd buy a pair, If not, I would buy a second 8800. Now I think I will be getting a couple ATI's unless they have terrible performance, but I definately will not buy a second 8800.
=End=
Lonesamurai
Firstly, there are drivers available for Vista, but for obvious reasons, like the fact that the operating system the drivers are for not even being released for retail yet, they, like Vista, are still in the Beta/Release Candidate stage and will be until the release of Vista next week!
Petrus
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Firstly, there are drivers available for Vista, but for obvious reasons, like the fact that the operating system the drivers are for not even being released for retail yet, they, like Vista, are still in the Beta/Release Candidate stage and will be until the release of Vista next week!
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Stemnin
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It's funny how most games (fps'es ) need 20 fps+ to be playable. In PvP I often get below 10 fps and it doesn't harm my gameplay.
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But in GW I was shocked to see I was occasionally getting 12-15 fps, I never really noticed it being that low.
Lonesamurai
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well technicaly vista was released in december . if youre a technet user (like me) or have a open license or any other lisen thats used for companys etc.. so nvidia is realy slow to get their drivers out... well atleast the beta 100.30 works ok so far..
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And just so you know, the drivers have been out, in actual fact there was an issue in one of the latest builds of Vista itself that was causing an issue, especially with the 8800's but according to nvidia's website thats now been rememdied
ElinoraNeSangre
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Originally Posted by EternalTempest
During the vista development there were multiple sources (including respected ones) that were complaining or hinting at Nvidia Driver development and Vista issues with the blame being on Nvidia's end.
This has most likely changed or will be fixed very shortly. Again, it ran fine with me without AA/AF which I normally don't run. |
I got so irked at the drivers that I bought an ATI Radeon x1950. :: cackle ::
I'm running Vista 64-bit at home and it's running quite nicely; I confess to having the 2 gigs of RAM though.
swiftygem
I'm glad it runs fine for you guys, I'm about to get a new system with Vista, plus a 8800GTS fed by C2D E6600. I'm tired of having 10FPS in Kamadan, although it's true that low FPS is much more acceptable in GW than in other games.
Lonesamurai
Honestly though, I've been using Vista Beta 2 for 6 months up until i built my new rig at the begining of december, at which time i put RC1 on it... It works fine, but i decided to benchmark the RC1 against XP Pro SP2 and SP2 actually gets a higher benchmark, so I'll stick with it now
My Rig:-
Motherboard: MSI AM2 K9N NEO-F, NF550, S AM2, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 533/667/800/400, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX
CPU: AMD AM2 Athlon 64 3800 + Windsor Core, Dual Core 2GHz, 2x 512KB Cache, Energy Efficient Retail
RAM: 2Gb (2x1Gb) Corsair Value Select, DDR2 PC5300 (667), 240 Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 5-5-5-15
Hard Drive: 2x Maxtor 6V200E0 200GB SATA300 7200rpm 8MB Cache - OEM
DVD: LiteOn 16x DVD + /-RW/RAM SATA black drive & S/W
Graphics: 256MB Palit 7600GT Sonic, PCI-E(x16), Mem 1500MHz, GPU 575MHz, 12Pipes, D-Sub/Dual Link DVI/HDTV SLI
And in most areas I get 75+ FPS, the lowest I've seen anywhere is in a GvG at the flagstand @ VoD and that fell to around 30 FPS
My Rig:-
Motherboard: MSI AM2 K9N NEO-F, NF550, S AM2, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 533/667/800/400, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX
CPU: AMD AM2 Athlon 64 3800 + Windsor Core, Dual Core 2GHz, 2x 512KB Cache, Energy Efficient Retail
RAM: 2Gb (2x1Gb) Corsair Value Select, DDR2 PC5300 (667), 240 Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 5-5-5-15
Hard Drive: 2x Maxtor 6V200E0 200GB SATA300 7200rpm 8MB Cache - OEM
DVD: LiteOn 16x DVD + /-RW/RAM SATA black drive & S/W
Graphics: 256MB Palit 7600GT Sonic, PCI-E(x16), Mem 1500MHz, GPU 575MHz, 12Pipes, D-Sub/Dual Link DVI/HDTV SLI
And in most areas I get 75+ FPS, the lowest I've seen anywhere is in a GvG at the flagstand @ VoD and that fell to around 30 FPS
TyrianFury
Guild Wars runs a treat for me with vista, actualy faster than with windows xp home edition.
I have Windows Vista Business Edition Final build 6000 64-bit, AMD x2 64 4200, 1gb ram, Nvidia Gefore 7600 gt 256 mb. The new vista foreceware drivers are awsome! Shame you can't get flash player for a 64-bit os so I'm unable to download any of my direct song extra music Adobe say they are working on a 64-bit version of flash player for windows.
I have Windows Vista Business Edition Final build 6000 64-bit, AMD x2 64 4200, 1gb ram, Nvidia Gefore 7600 gt 256 mb. The new vista foreceware drivers are awsome! Shame you can't get flash player for a 64-bit os so I'm unable to download any of my direct song extra music
Adobe say they are working on a 64-bit version of flash player for windows.
boxterduke
I had GW running on Vista RC1 with an ATI card and it ran smooth.
ElinoraNeSangre
If it's running slow-ish for anyone, try setting your GW shortcut to disable themes and desktop compositioning (in the properties under Compatibility). This shuts off the visual effects and frees up some resources while you're playing.
RinLian
Bleh.... I won't be upgrading to vista for a long time. Same deal with IE7, which is now included in the windows update packages... still optional. Thing is, now I don't have any issues with it, however I think FF2 wins that race. (With no intention to go off-topic)
ElinoraNeSangre
In all honesty, I suggest to people that if they are really excited about Vista, are ordering a new computer from an OEM that would come with it, or can get it cheap (but legal!) then they should go for it.
If you're running XP and you're happy with XP, paying full retail for Vista likely isn't worth it for many consumers.
Me, I love Windows Vista. But then I'm extremely biased.
If you're running XP and you're happy with XP, paying full retail for Vista likely isn't worth it for many consumers.
Me, I love Windows Vista.
But then I'm extremely biased.
RinLian
My pc is up to par for Vista specs, but I'd like to do some trade outs for a dual core system, better gfx card (dx10 series) and some newer hard drives.
I've played with vista, in fact, we had it on one of the tester machines here at the shop. The eye candy makes it a beauty, although, I will be waiting until things are smoothed out a bit more before considering using the operating system at home. Most businesses won't even make that move until LATE this year (IF so) or next year... at least a long time anyway.
PS Elinora, what socket is your motherboard?
I've played with vista, in fact, we had it on one of the tester machines here at the shop. The eye candy makes it a beauty, although, I will be waiting until things are smoothed out a bit more before considering using the operating system at home. Most businesses won't even make that move until LATE this year (IF so) or next year... at least a long time anyway.
PS Elinora, what socket is your motherboard?
Petrus
finaly nvidia have released vista drivers for 88 series :P 100.40
installing them now. will be testing them later tonight on the 32bit
installing them now. will be testing them later tonight on the 32bit
darksiege
I heard the 100.40 drivers were only for the laptop versions or something? :S
Veneficus
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Originally Posted by AOD_EaSyKiLL
I just got my system formatted and installed with Vista. A few more hours of the -image and I will be playing. I will post in my results.
Im running the following setup: Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Gigabyte 8800GTX 2gb OCZ ddr2 MSI K9A Platinum I was getting 150+ fps in most areas (about 80-100 fps in Kamadan 1) at max settings 1280x1024 at full in game AA under XP, so we will see. |
I get 150+ with Crossfired X1950's.
titan_gwguru
Vista isn't even out for regular consumers yet. Sure, some corporations have a license so they can start preparing a roll out if they want, no responsible corporation was putting expensive 8800s in their work PCs so it doesn't matter. The only others who should be running Vista are developers, and they can get drivers. Heck, drivers were even linked to in this thread.
It would be nice if they had quality drivers ready, but they don't so I don't mind them concentrating on making the drivers instead of making early public releases. The OS was done in November, but MS didn't want to put people through the driver problems so they delayed it to January. That's the key, MS doesn't want you running Vista early because it's not ready because of drivers. If you're running Vista before you supposed to then you've made your bed, now you've got to sleep in it.
Of course if nvidia doesn't have public drivers out this week then you should totally bitch about it.
It would be nice if they had quality drivers ready, but they don't so I don't mind them concentrating on making the drivers instead of making early public releases. The OS was done in November, but MS didn't want to put people through the driver problems so they delayed it to January. That's the key, MS doesn't want you running Vista early because it's not ready because of drivers. If you're running Vista before you supposed to then you've made your bed, now you've got to sleep in it.
Of course if nvidia doesn't have public drivers out this week then you should totally bitch about it.
j_unit66
veneficus, im pretty sure two x1950's in crossfire should be faster than the 8800 atm because nothing uses dx10 yet, wen dx10 is being used it should be much faster, im pretty sure the 8800 isnt even the fastest card nvidia has useing dx9.
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2874&p=17
look at the fps' the x1950 is very close to the 8800 as a single card.atleast for bf2, didnt bother checking the other benchs
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2874&p=17
look at the fps' the x1950 is very close to the 8800 as a single card.atleast for bf2, didnt bother checking the other benchs
ElinoraNeSangre
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Specifically, I have a Pentium D 2.66 Core Duo with 2 gigs of RAM and an x1950XTX. It's a freakin' sexy beast by my standards, and just to be a goof I slapped an Apple sticker on the front. I'm actually really excited to see Vista about to hit the general public. My useage of Vista could be measured in years (before it was "Vista"). Heck that's how I found a lot of my driver issues, I've been using this puppy for so long it hurts. So current driver issues? They've got nothing on a year or even two ago (or heaven forfend, 3...).
BTW, Vista coming out in Jan wasn't so much a matter of drivers as business model. Once an OS is "finished" (released to manufacturing), it still has to go to print - the CDs and boxes don't come out of nowhere.
I don't know the specifics on why OEMs and businesses got a first crack, but it's really none of my business either.-kelkel