well shield of absorption got the nerfbat

luinks

luinks

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Purple Ravens

Mo/E

Any ideas on bypassing the 1 second thing its pretty obvious they did it on purpose to cripple the soa farming... T_T

leeky baby

leeky baby

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Surrey University

Starting to play again... need a guild

W/E

take healing breeze + SOA

use a 20% recharge set

CR3AT0R

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

2 paras and a war is strong aoe [lol]

Whats going on [sup]

Mo/

The changes are just tests for the moment. DW about it now worry if its premanent

luinks

luinks

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Purple Ravens

Mo/E

well we all know this wont be changed
some spots are doable, imps definitely not, maelstrom + casting healing breeze/Soa/SoJ depletesmantra... maybe i need to retime the casting

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

You could try Judges Intervention and a few others but I really wouldn't worry to much.I haven't even done any Soa farming atm and what do you mean 20%?

Covah

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2006

Ontario, Canada

Catching Jellyfish With [소N트T ]

Me/Rt

farming minos @ elona reach with the mo\e build and SoA I can just barely get SoA off in time now Hopefully it isn't permanent

Butters1110

Butters1110

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Professional Athletes [HGH]

Mo/

every1 must go to the section on the skill changes and say that they dont like it. Maybe then they will leave it the way it was <_<

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Butters1110
every1 must go to the section on the skill changes and say that they dont like it. Maybe then they will leave it the way it was <_< You can but they are doing this testing for HA.It will be there that will decide its fate.

Teutonic Paladin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

TW

W/

They didn't do this to screw farmers. This is here to weaken one of the most overpowered Prot Skills ever.

Why_Me

Why_Me

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

New Jersey

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by OP
Any ideas on bypassing the 1 second thing its pretty obvious they did it on purpose to cripple the soa farming... T_T Um, no, have you ever played GvG or HA?

luinks

luinks

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Purple Ravens

Mo/E

i already did it :3

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

ladies ladies...

What did you all do when AoE was nerfed? What did we all do when Tengu farming got nerfed (besides cry)?

We found new ways to farm!!

Dont dwell on this (btw its temporary) but rather find a new way to farm...

Real1ty

Real1ty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Australia

Unlikely Hero

W/

I think the SOA will stay, but the one i'm crying about is the SV/AV nerf, geez i hope this is temporary

FyrFytr998

FyrFytr998

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Connecticut USA

[ITPR]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by luinks
well we all know this wont be changed
some spots are doable, imps definitely not, maelstrom + casting healing breeze/Soa/SoJ depletesmantra... maybe i need to retime the casting Looks like it's back to non interupting foes for me. Imps are a pain in the butt now. Mantra of Resolve does deplete the energy pool too fast. I can't imagine being limited to just tusked howlers, lol. Why must my PvE happiness rely on wether PvP players are happy? It's like being in an abusive relationship where the only option you have is leaving, lol.

luinks

luinks

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Purple Ravens

Mo/E

sv/av was overused and overpowered in gvg or pvp?

Amity and Truth

Amity and Truth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/N

Well in a PVP Sense it got buffed. Low Recharge / Low Duration is a lot more versatile in PVP than the other way around. But let's face it, it's simply another hit at Farming.


/edit:
To clear things up, I was referring to SV/AV

FyrFytr998

FyrFytr998

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Connecticut USA

[ITPR]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by FyrFytr998
Looks like it's back to non interupting foes for me. Imps are a pain in the butt now. Mantra of Resolve does deplete the energy pool too fast. I can't imagine being limited to just tusked howlers, lol. Why must my PvE happiness rely on wether PvP players are happy? It's like being in an abusive relationship where the only option you have is leaving, lol. Now I stand to correct myself. After some fiddling around. Glyph of Concentration is a suitible replacement for Mantra of Resolve vs. Ice Imp's Maelstrom. Seeing as Glyphs aren't spells, I guess Maelstrom is useless against it. (BUT YOU MUST TIME THE SKILL CHAIN CORRECTLY!)

I know it's alot of hoopla for a run that isn't as profitable as some of the others, but I REALLY hate Ice Imps! Seige Ice Golems are still a breeze. Don't even need glyph for them. Also not needing 4 points in Inspiration opens up one more point to go in Divine, if you empty out Healing.

random.name

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

South Africa

N/

Lol, I still use SoA to farm with my monk, and it works perfectly. Its all about how you spread your attributes...

14 Smite
14 Prot
13 Divine Favor

Slap on Blessed Aura, and you have nonstop protection. Instead of doing 53 damage with SoJ you will now do only 47.

Verteiron

Verteiron

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ether Jar

Me/Rt

I just ran through my own IDS solo guide without changing a thing. The change to SoA does not alter the build at all, other than making it slightly more suceptible to knockdown interrupts (Tundra Giants). The Imps were as easy to kill as ever. I really don't see what all the whining is about, I was afraid they were actually going to make the skill unusable like they did for Spirit Bond...

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

The only problem with this change, is that SoA is more vulnerable to interrupts. If you've grouped up a lot of enemies, you don't have time to re-cast it, as you'll be dead by then.

Verteiron

Verteiron

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ether Jar

Me/Rt

No, you won't. With Blessed Aura at 32% there is plenty of time to recast SoA. I had at least 20 Avicari Fierce mobbed at one point, and 2-3 Braves wailing away on me. SoA was never "down" for a second, because if it had been, I would have died instantly, Protective Spirit or not. If you think the recast time is too short, then sacrifice some Smiting Prayer and put another point in Divine Favor to boost Blessed Aura to 33%; that should leave you nearly a full second -extra- to recast SoA.

Real1ty

Real1ty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Australia

Unlikely Hero

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Verteiron
No, you won't. With Blessed Aura at 32% there is plenty of time to recast SoA. I had at least 20 Avicari Fierce mobbed at one point, and 2-3 Braves wailing away on me. SoA was never "down" for a second, because if it had been, I would have died instantly, Protective Spirit or not. If you think the recast time is too short, then sacrifice some Smiting Prayer and put another point in Divine Favor to boost Blessed Aura to 33%; that should leave you nearly a full second -extra- to recast SoA. That might be right, but what about some of the interupt experts?
I'm sure the Aatxe and Grasping Darkness are much happier with the longer cast

Verteiron

Verteiron

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ether Jar

Me/Rt

That's what Mantra of Resolve is for.

FyrFytr998

FyrFytr998

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Connecticut USA

[ITPR]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Verteiron
That's what Mantra of Resolve is for. That's what mantra of resolve WAS for. Against a few enemies, Mantra is still usuable. Against multiple Maelstroms....gg. Like I had stated. If for some reason they keep the one second cast time after testing, and Ice Imps are your choice of enemy. Just use Glyph of Concentration. Maelstrom does not interupt it. Just cycle between SoA/PS and SoA/SoJ FTW.

P.S.- I know there are more lucrative runs, but outside Ice Caves can net some good chests and gold Weapons. As well as massive XP. Plus the frigid hearts and badges trade at the collector for a 85g PROFIT! Unlike the collector items in the Crystal Desert which trade at face value.

Verteiron

Verteiron

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ether Jar

Me/Rt

That's what Mantra of Resolve still -is- for, I've completed several runs and collected two IDS without altering my build in the slightest. I'm not sure why you think it no longer works against a dozen Maelstroms, but it does.

Real1ty

Real1ty

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

Australia

Unlikely Hero

W/

Well it's back to normal....for the time being that is

FyrFytr998

FyrFytr998

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Connecticut USA

[ITPR]

W/

Well....kudos for being one of the better GW Monks then. As for me, MoR is moot. And after numerous runs outside Ice Caves. I much prefer the Glyph now. I'm not sure how much your IDS build is from the SoA Build Naruto had posted before.

Note: I guess it's moot even moreso now that SoA is back to normal....FOR NOW, lol.