Crazy Barrage/Splinter Synergy

The problem with running R/Rt is that you don't get any effect from Expertise on the weapon skills. Now either you use another elite instead of Barrage to maintain your own energy, losing the reason you were running /Rt in the first place, or you run out of energy fairly quickly. Specing in even more high cost Rt skills would hinder you more than help, so the 12 points in Channeling would seem a bit wasted.

If you intend to get a spike to work it will always need manual intervention. I've been running FW/Winno/RtW/Maruaders/Punishing on Jin, Marge and myself through almost all of Nightfall. Without intervention the spike would be hopeless. With it, the first target in a mob usually drops dead. Forcing your heros to precast RtW, then set them ready with Marauders as next skill, and activate Punishing once they've started (since you can't cancel bow attacks) and they followup perfectly.

I was intending to try it out this morning but sadly they removed the test weekend out... leaving me to find another use for my newly acquired Razah. Simply using a Rit hero with a specialised build and controlling it all yourself (a bit of hastle i know, but hopefully it would be worth the effort) could end fights in a matter of seconds.
The enemy mob won't flinch until the arrow hits, unlike a projectile spell. If you get 3 Lvl16 Splinter Weapons onto 3 Barrage Rangers prior to initiating battle your first wave would hit with an extremely hard kick. If all 3 of you hit with all 5 arrows against a mob of 5 then you hit for combined amount of 53x4x3 = 636 damage, before taking the arrows themselves into account. If the maths is right of course... but dealing a bonus 636 damage to those already hit by Barrage and maybe 1/5th of that to things unaffected by it is a very good way to win a fight before its even begun.

I hope Anet decide to implement this. There are a variety of reasons against Nightmare Weapons modification, as it would create an unstoppable life stealing spike in PvP, but in PvP, Splinter Weapon means nothing and would only be used for gimick builds in PvE.

Umm IMO Ritualists is most synergy class for rangers.
Im using R/Rit since my R was born =).With splinter weapon there is good option to do inital damage. But for constant high damage I prefer Brutal weapon ( and if the latest patches will be put back - it will have prolonger duration) - brutal weapon also synergy good with needling shot ( i know a lot of ppl think Needling shot is gimp - but it works perfect in some kind of situations) - BW adds armor ignoring damage to needling shot. So with 16 marks, 9 communing and vampiric bow - needling hits for 21+11+5 = 37 armor ignoring damage. If you take quick shot as elite - u can spam that 2 shots on low hp targets indefinately. I completed Glint bonus and made Shiro masters with that trick. On the Glint it was impressive =)

why Brutal Weapon when Conjure flame is more cost efficient (last 60 sec) for the same damage bonus, and isn't conditional? (i'm don't about armors ignoring difference between them)

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Another reason could be that enchantments can be removed, weapon spells not.

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I can understand choosing Brutal weapon over Conjure flame however, there's no interest choosing one or the other agains an Order Necro (which fuels B/P teams).
I largely prefer Conjure flame/lightning/frost over Brutal weapon. Many heals or prot enchants will completely mess up brutal weapon efficiency, whereas Conjure flame will deal damage in a lot more constant way. Add to that that BW is a lot more energy intensive than Conj. Flame.
The armor Vs Flame argument is also somewhat inconsistent. Get a set of different bows, and use the proper Conjure to match the elemental weakness of your opponents (for instance, Lightning against grawls, Frost against burning titans, Flame agains Ice Golems).
However, if tou can fit an order necro in your team PVE build, that's really the better choice, as it will focus attributes points in Marksmanship and benefit to any physical attacker in your team.

Interesting post, glountz. I haven't played what you might call the "elemental" strategy in some time even though my quiver includes a grundle of properly equipped collector bows simply because my sense is that I do better with another mod, usually vampiric, in terms of sustained damage. Obviously, it's compatible with use of the ritualist weapon spells.

These days, I'd only bring along a bow with an elemental bow string in PVE only if I knew I were facing antagonists particularly suseptible to that kind of damage. That seems to be less and less the case in Nightfall.

Your post makes me wonder if I've missed something. (Thanks Centur for the precis of useful ritualist skills in your previous posts.)

And thanks Centur for your precis on synergistic Ritualist skills in your previous post.

well im seeing barrage talk. Let me just mention something I see all the time in tombs...


as an Orders necro, Id just like to remind you that elemental bowstrings will not work with Orders. If all you have is an elemental bowstring, youd be better off bringing candy bow.

Thats all.

I'm utterly speechless...

I'm up for Urgoz on my Monk O_o
Message me in-game @ Ariena Najea

Hm... I'm up for something like this too. Especially with the weekend even going on... IGN: Ayu Inspire

have you seen:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...4&postcount=42

4 baragers+ ritu=killer?(as long u wont get struck whit one enamie left)

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