Well, I just found it interesting that whenever I get to a mission that requires interrupts and dazed (Gate of Pain anyone? Shiroken Elementalists in Raisu Palace?) and I take a sin into my group, they never have Temple Strike or never even heard of it. They're still good players (well mostly) so it's not like they're bad, but I just thought it interesting that my own sin seems to be the only who really ever uses it.
At least from all the sins I've encountered they've said no.
So do assassin players just not find this skill as useful and just go for the high damage and condition with Moebius Strike and Ox chains?
I know it takes a while to recharge and it costs 15 energy, and that there a couple of builds that include it, but it doesn't seem used much.
I use it all the time on my sin and even if it's one caster taken down, it's a caster taken down and pressure taken off my team. Equipped with Falaharn's Split Chakrams and it's even lovelier <3
anyone else use this skill any or have any thoughts about it?
Temple Strike anyone?
Laenavesse
Yanman.be
Too much energy, how are you going to keep yourself alive in pve ( need shadowsteps + healing-> energy? ), and a target dead is better than a target dazed/blinded. Sorry!
Jeff Highwind
Temple Strike is more of a PvP skill imo, Send in a quick Dazed to screw with the monk then shadowstep out.
Laenavesse
I've actually managed quite well with this in PvE. I *had* some issues about energy, but using the chakrams to apply TS then switching back to my zealous daggers it's alright. And I don't have that many problems with survivability if the tank goes in first and i just sneak up past them and shut them down, hack a little or all the way if nothing is focused on me and then just run back out and use shadow's refuge.
Of course I only run it when heavy casting is involved (like the Gate of Pain mission...dryders bleh) but i don't have issues with it anywhere else.
I'm still fiddling with my sin anyway, but it seems my whacked up build works for me than anything else I've tried. I think I play my sin as more of an "along side" help than trying to take something down on my own...though that's changing >>
Of course I only run it when heavy casting is involved (like the Gate of Pain mission...dryders bleh) but i don't have issues with it anywhere else.
I'm still fiddling with my sin anyway, but it seems my whacked up build works for me than anything else I've tried. I think I play my sin as more of an "along side" help than trying to take something down on my own...though that's changing >>
majeh456
I'd much rather kill the target, then leave it blinded/dazed.
SotiCoto
Meh.
Backfire / Spiteful Spirit on Shiroken Elementalists = Owies.
Not Assassin skills, granted.... but we have secondaries for good reason. Aside from my ID+, just about all of my builds rely on enemies spiking themselves AS I spike them... for double the damage per unit time.
Backfire / Spiteful Spirit on Shiroken Elementalists = Owies.
Not Assassin skills, granted.... but we have secondaries for good reason. Aside from my ID+, just about all of my builds rely on enemies spiking themselves AS I spike them... for double the damage per unit time.
Priest Of Sin
I have this in my bar occasionally, but it's really not very good. The recharge+energy required to use it is just painful, and it can disable a good chain. Besides, it's only REALLY useful of bosses, which will live long enough to get multiple TS on them.
In short: Too much energy, too long of a recharge.
In short: Too much energy, too long of a recharge.
powercozmic
My PvE elite is temple strike most of the time. Will be beguiling haze soon. For those caster bosses who kill you with 1 spell, dazed is the way to go.
-.-
I would rather have a Deep Wound dual attack. Why, because I rather use my Elite on something better. If I wanted to cause Daze on a target, I would bring along Margrid or Jin using Broad-headed Arrow or Concussion Shot.
Tingi
TS is amazing in PvP - most often in HA. We used to run, back in the early 6v6 HA days, templesmite (yea i know smite is the sux0rs and all that, but in my defecnce it was fun!)
The build obviouly consisted of 2 Templesins and 2 smiters and 2 backline heal/prot monks.
THis is pretty much the only time I could actively pressure a monk as an assassin (beacuse usually you just want a quick spike combo). The 'sins used frenzy (yes i know dangerous but this was be4 nightfall came out) put the TS combo out on the enemie monks which consisted of templestrike etc etc twisting fangs. However this build USED lead attack giving them a chance to pressure and cripple foes. You could litteraly take down the backline monks inseconds. Was so brill.
So whoever doesnt like TempleStrike - well sure in PvE pure dmg is better - you want your target dead. But in PvP its a great shutdown/pressure skill.
The build obviouly consisted of 2 Templesins and 2 smiters and 2 backline heal/prot monks.
THis is pretty much the only time I could actively pressure a monk as an assassin (beacuse usually you just want a quick spike combo). The 'sins used frenzy (yes i know dangerous but this was be4 nightfall came out) put the TS combo out on the enemie monks which consisted of templestrike etc etc twisting fangs. However this build USED lead attack giving them a chance to pressure and cripple foes. You could litteraly take down the backline monks inseconds. Was so brill.
So whoever doesnt like TempleStrike - well sure in PvE pure dmg is better - you want your target dead. But in PvP its a great shutdown/pressure skill.
some guy
It is great because it can disable both kind of players, a caster and a meleer.
A great combo is leaping mantis sting, jungle strike, temple strike, twisted fangs.
Temple strike is extremely powerful in pvp, basically a guaranteed kill to a defenseless caster.
A great combo is leaping mantis sting, jungle strike, temple strike, twisted fangs.
Temple strike is extremely powerful in pvp, basically a guaranteed kill to a defenseless caster.
platnium_playa
TS is my favorite sin elite for PvP...
my combo/bar is shadow-step>unsespecting strike>TS>horns of the ox>falling spider>twisting fangs..
gives poisen/blind/dazed/bleeding/ and deep wound a knock down and quite a bit of extra dmg if the attr. are set correctly.
my combo/bar is shadow-step>unsespecting strike>TS>horns of the ox>falling spider>twisting fangs..
gives poisen/blind/dazed/bleeding/ and deep wound a knock down and quite a bit of extra dmg if the attr. are set correctly.
Yanman.be
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Originally Posted by some guy
It is great because it can disable both kind of players, a caster and a meleer.
A great combo is leaping mantis sting, jungle strike, temple strike, twisted fangs.
Temple strike is extremely powerful in pvp, basically a guaranteed kill to a defenseless caster.
Gee I wonder how you can use 2 off-hand attacks..
A great combo is leaping mantis sting, jungle strike, temple strike, twisted fangs.
Temple strike is extremely powerful in pvp, basically a guaranteed kill to a defenseless caster.
Gee I wonder how you can use 2 off-hand attacks..
Lord Oranos
jungle strike is an alternative offhand, in case something happens with ts
Yanman.be
But not worth the slot?
Voltaire
I truly enjoy TS in PvP, although come tot hink of it, I haven't used or seen it around in a while. Time to change that. 
On the PvE side of things, I pack TS whenever I'm gonig after a boss or caster-heavy area - its part of one of my PvE builds that I rotate around.
On the PvE side of things, I pack TS whenever I'm gonig after a boss or caster-heavy area - its part of one of my PvE builds that I rotate around.
NoPantsRepublic
Golden Skull Strike > Temple Strike for pve, if you're just going for daze.
Laenavesse
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Originally Posted by -.-
I would rather have a Deep Wound dual attack. Why, because I rather use my Elite on something better. If I wanted to cause Daze on a target, I would bring along Margrid or Jin using Broad-headed Arrow or Concussion Shot.
true, but i was more or less referring back to the days when we DIDN'T have heroes and sins had to COMPLETELY hench things way back when. and the only real interrupt henchmen was the ranger in the Jade Sea.
Anyway, I'm now fixed on an MS build with 3 dual attacks (crazy, yeah, i know xD) but i do often miss my TS.
I guess my real wonderment was if anyone considers even capping it anymore, or if it was just more useful in the past than now.
Anyway, I'm now fixed on an MS build with 3 dual attacks (crazy, yeah, i know xD) but i do often miss my TS.
I guess my real wonderment was if anyone considers even capping it anymore, or if it was just more useful in the past than now.
Priest Of Sin
Temple strike remains a premier elite in the fact that it can dump Dazed (ultimate caster shutdown with all the double-strikes sins do) on a foe, and then your teammates will have less trouble killing said caster. Golden Jaw strike may replace Temple Strike in this way, simply because it uses less energy and can be used more often, but GJS is very conditional.
clawofcrimson
ya...but...why do you need dazed to kill a caster??
if its cuz he uses enchants (like a earth tank in ab..) just take expunge enchants...
if its cuz he uses enchants (like a earth tank in ab..) just take expunge enchants...
Laenavesse
Well think of it this way:
If you encounter a group with 2 or more casters and or monks, what happens? (ex for PvE, mob of Rain of Terrors in Realm of Torment)
Better hope you have good healing or a few interrupt rangers because it could take a while if you don't wipe first. Dazing interrupts the casters/monks like MAD. It's fun seeing their spell bar suddenly turn purple immediately.
If you encounter a group with 2 or more casters and or monks, what happens? (ex for PvE, mob of Rain of Terrors in Realm of Torment)
Better hope you have good healing or a few interrupt rangers because it could take a while if you don't wipe first. Dazing interrupts the casters/monks like MAD. It's fun seeing their spell bar suddenly turn purple immediately.
clawofcrimson
ya..... i guess i didnt realize this was for pve
Laenavesse
It's still also useful for PvP as well because the daze (and blind if you use it on a tank/melee) because it just adds more pressure. Daze a caster who is off on their own and he's down in seconds
ThaAlchemy
I bring ts in places like ra alot and its fun to kill monks.. however the bl monks with return can sometimes get it off despite being dazed, I know ive done this before as a monk. If your having e management problems, try a cheap hex like siphon speed and then black lotus>ts>ect. or hex>black spider bite>black lotus>temple>twisting. that way you have a little enrgy to play with.
Yanman.be
ThaAlchemy, how the hell can you follow a off-hand by a off-hand? Only Repeating Strike can do that afaik. Fail more please.
monkey z
Black spider strike and black lotus strike can follow an offhand or dual attack because the only requirement for these skills is that the foe need to have a hex on him. Comblo like siphon>black lotus>black spider>twisting will still work
ThaAlchemy
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ThaAlchemy, how the hell can you follow a off-hand by a off-hand? Only Repeating Strike can do that afaik. Fail more please.
...you can go back to your cave now.
...you can go back to your cave now.
-.-
So this is for PvE then...then Temple Strike isn't needed at all. You're not an one-man party, but a party of 8. Go use a more useful Elite skill.
Yanman.be
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Originally Posted by ThaAlchemy
...you can go back to your cave now.
Solve my question. I seriously cannot see any lead attack to trigger Temple Strike.
clawofcrimson
if I were to use TS... probably leaping mantis for the lead.... but right now Im too in love with [card]shadow prison[/card] to give any other elite a chance
ThaAlchemy
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Originally Posted by Yanman.be
Solve my question. I seriously cannot see any lead attack to follow Temple Strike.
I agree, I would follow with a dual... you should really put some more thought into your posts before spamming and flaming others...
I agree, I would follow with a dual... you should really put some more thought into your posts before spamming and flaming others...
Yanman.be
Edited. Typo. Answer again.
Do you have a lead attack to activate Temple Strike (in that build you posted before )
Do you have a lead attack to activate Temple Strike (in that build you posted before )