UW or FoW???

Plague on a Stick

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Advent To Glory[xAGx]

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i am tired of farming greens all the time and ice imps or trolls just isnt doing it.
I've found some solo builds for UW and FoW beach/forest.
I would like to know;
which is the hardest/easiest
which takes longer/shorter
which is more profitable

I don't want to know what the most you've gotten was because at one time you may have gotten 4 ectos (lol...not anymore)
just over all what made you more money

Vexed

Vexed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2006

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Junk drops and cash will have you coming out about even in either place.

Getting a few lucky ecto drops will bring you out ahead of a few lucky shard drops.

Both places are pretty easy once you get the hang of the builds and how to run them. Expect to lose a little cash learning the ropes, though.

UW smite run is probably a bit quicker, especially when you skip all the aatxe.

novawhiz

novawhiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

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Ok

Which is hardest/easiest?
A: Depends on build your using, but generally UW is considered easier.

Which takes longer/shorter?
A: Depends on how much ur soloing. UW smite runs are around 15min. If your talking about soloing whole UW its like 4 hours. FoW is probly more.

Which is more profitable?
A: All about your luck. FoW drops more gold weapons and chests are way way better, but UW has the ecto that FoW doesnt. If you farm both for an hour you'll probably have an equal profit, but if you farm them both for many many hours over time, problly a lot more from FoW cause you might get a rare weap.

Priest Of Sin

Priest Of Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne.

Live For The Swarm [ZERG]

Me/N

Lawl... Irony. For balanced parties, FoW is alot easier. For solo farmers, UW is easier.

My War Can Solo Everythin

My War Can Solo Everythin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

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I'd like to post my "solo the whole fow build in 1 hour" but...
I'm italian so it takes time to translate skill's names, mob's names etc..
And i'm not good at making videos but i will try to make a guide, its so funny to do^^ and 50-60k as reward for who can do it.
I dunno which is better between solo fow and solo uw...
Coz solo fow= 1 hour= 50k, solo uw= 20 mins each run and 50k/hour...
Fastest? uw. Adrenalinic? fow. I make the same money/hour in both so
cant really say whats better... Alternate!

drupal

drupal

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

lawl... just show post build

Pande

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Quote:
Originally Posted by My War Can Solo Everythin
I'd like to post my "solo the whole fow build in 1 hour" but...
I'm italian so it takes time to translate skill's names, mob's names etc..
And i'm not good at making videos but i will try to make a guide, its so funny to do^^ and 50-60k as reward for who can do it.
I dunno which is better between solo fow and solo uw...
Coz solo fow= 1 hour= 50k, solo uw= 20 mins each run and 50k/hour...
Fastest? uw. Adrenalinic? fow. I make the same money/hour in both so
cant really say whats better... Alternate! Incredible, never imagine to find a good italian player here (i'm not good ^^).
We wait whith impatience for your guide.

(Tanto al massimo se non capisco la traduzione mi prenderĂ² la liberta di spammarti in game lol)


For UW/FOW

I prefer FOW, for solo farm or grup play, UW in my opinion is boring (not a lot of variety....)

drupal

drupal

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pande
Incredible, never imagine to find a good italian player here (i'm not good ^^).
We wait whith impatience for your guide. Sorry, but I don't think that you'll see a build from him. To make 50k/h he must find like 25 Shards or just gold drops, rofl

Witte Was

Witte Was

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Left GW

Proud Member of : Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

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Hm..I don't think you can solo the whole FoW in an hour..It takes more than 1 hour for me to clear the forrest + beach + parts of the shadow army with my Warrior.

Dutch Masterr

Dutch Masterr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Long Island, NY

Elite Knights [SWAT]

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you can solo the forest, beach and shadow army with a warrior...?! how?

My War Can Solo Everythin

My War Can Solo Everythin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

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Each group of mobs takes less than 1 min with that build, so u can do it in 1 hour.

Best things i got recently:
- Lots Chaos Axes, with low req or just perfect mods
- Gold Shadow/Gloom Shields
- Gold Shadow Swords
- Sapphires/Rubies (very frequently in this period, 1 of them each run ofc)
- Crystalline (it was req 12 but still gold and 15 enchanted, sold for 200k, found from chest)
- Ecto if u do the quest and kill banshee!!!

When u cleaned up the whole place u have 15/20 shards, 3-6 golds, and about 5k in white stuffs.

In this way, doing it repeatly, i gained about 3 mil, it takes 1 hour but worth it, and funny coz u cant die lol.
The only problem is that ****** Rastigan, he suicide himself sometimes -_- i hate him!
Btw, i say before making the guide: You must have and beated NF and proph or u cant do it.

Pande, another italian!!! PM me in game i'll show u how to do it!
I'll show the build to Pande so he can help me to make a guide soon

Bloodied Blade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

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I have a hunch that I know the build he's using for FoW...(*cough* Dervish *cough*). If he's able to do *all* of FoW, it's probably a 55, an elem, or a derv though.

My War Can Solo Everythin

My War Can Solo Everythin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloodied Blade
I have a hunch that I know the build he's using for FoW...(*cough* Dervish *cough*). If he's able to do *all* of FoW, it's probably a 55, an elem, or a derv though. No 55, no dervish, no ele.
I said i do this with W/Mo.
Tbh i dont like 55 builds, i only farm with warrior and sin.
I'm showing the build to friends so they help me making a guide in future.
When i have time i'll try to make a good guide

Bloodied Blade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Warrior 100% of FoW? If you're using monk as your secondary I'm gonna be guessing at Mending/Watchful/Balthazar's Spirit (B Spirit would be like an infinite pool of adren down there). I'd really like to see it in action though, I have a warrior myself and have been trying to see just what is within its grasp as far as soloing goes (along with my ranger and my assassin...whom I've been trying to come up with a non-echo+shadow form FoW build).

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Xiaxhou of Trinity

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

CA

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If he's using enchants, how is he surviving against shadow army mesmers? I guess with Balth spirit he can spam some adrenal skills to take out skeletal bonders, but I still doubt he'd be able to spike enough to take out one. I'll look at NF skills that might be helpful, try to guess the build before the guide! That'd be a fun game lol.

Avatar Exico

Avatar Exico

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Way to Cold at Home:Illnois and School:Iowa.

We Trip Hard On [AcID]

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Ill Put it this Way Guys from What i saw along Time Ago. FoW Beach Was Dropping Saphires and Rubies Like Crazy and i ment a person that got 99 of ea in FoW Beach Solo. The Obsidian Shards like Crazy in 2 man Beach or Solo Beach Farm.

Plague on a Stick

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Advent To Glory[xAGx]

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Heres another question for you all to answer
Which makes more money
Which is faster
Which is easier

FoW beach or FoW Forest?

drupal

drupal

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by My War Can Solo Everythin
Each group of mobs takes less than 1 min with that build, so u can do it in 1 hour
I just believe it when you've posted your uber build... a screen of you with the cleared burning forest and an empty party window would be enough, though

Quote:
Originally Posted by Plague on a Stick
Heres another question for you all to answer
Which makes more money
Which is faster
Which is easier

FoW beach or FoW Forest? The easiest is Forest Solo with the ranger. Warrior Beach solo sucks, because you always have to heal out the degen. Dervish Beach Solo is as easy as Forest with the ranger.

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

i feel that my fow runs with warrior are much faster then UW runs with my mesmer. Its all opinionated though... As other have said they say UW is easier then FoW, I find farming UW with my mesmer harder then FoW with warrior. But then I find farming UW with my mesmer much easier then farming the wailing forest with my Ranger.

its a vicious circle!

Witte Was

Witte Was

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Left GW

Proud Member of : Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by My War Can Solo Everythin
No 55, no dervish, no ele.
I said i do this with W/Mo.
Tbh i dont like 55 builds, i only farm with warrior and sin.
I'm showing the build to friends so they help me making a guide in future.
When i have time i'll try to make a good guide
You should really post some screenshots about your uber builds cuz no one is believing you..

About FoW farming with a warrior:

Beach:

No screenshots..can make them if you guys want.

Shadow Army:





Forrest:

Step 1: Run to the Tower of Courage and lure 1 group of Shadow Rangers and Abyssals. Cast Vengeful was Khanhei whenever its possible. Make sure Dolyak Signet and Watch Yourself! are always on. When the Abyssals are down, head to the Rangers and distract their Troll Unguent.

Step 2: Clear the rest of the Rangers and Abyssals, after that run to the Forest of the Wailing Lord. Take your flatbow and lure the Spirit Shepherds. Use Vengeful Was Khanhei whenever it's possible.

Step 3: When Rock Borer Worms pop up, go to melee range so they start attacking you. Cast Vengeful Was Khanei when it's possible but watch out for Chocking Gas!

Step 4: Spirit Woods, they are easy. Just distract their Troll Unguent.

Step 5: When spiders pop up, walk to melee range so they won't use Healing Spring and cast Vengeful Was Khanhei.

Step 6: Now take the left way and lure the next group of Shepherds.

Step 7: Kill the second group of Shepherds.

Step 8: Go to the small hill you should see in front of you and kill the Spirit Woods. Remeber to distract their Troll Unguent.

Step 9: You should see a bridge with 4 Skeleton Berserkers in front of it. Lure 1 group and kill them using your Vengeful Was Khanhei.

Step 10: When you move forward to kill the second group, watch out because a Skeletal Impaler might pop up. Kill him with your Vengeful Weapon's.

Step 11: Take the right way and you'll face the second halve of the forest. Kill everything using the same tactics I gave you to kill the first halve.

step 12: If you want, you can clear the abode of the Wailing Lord but watch out! You might agro to much.

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

I'm not a farming expert but I choose UW because Ectos are worth wayyyy more than Shards are. I can't be bothered trying to sell anything other than Ectos via trade but I imagine that it wastes a good deal of time of the players who do try to do that.

Hence in my view most profitable way is solo UW and merch anything that isn't Ectos.

Plague on a Stick

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Advent To Glory[xAGx]

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none of this answers my second question about FoW BEACH and FoW FOREST
which is faster
which makes more money

deluxe

deluxe

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Monkeyball Z

S.K.A.T. [Ban]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Plague on a Stick
none of this answers my second question about FoW BEACH and FoW FOREST
which is faster
which makes more money i think it's about the same, but shards have a way higher droprate than ecto's. Although i've had smite runs that give 4 ecto's, it's most of the time 0-1.
about the speed, uw wins. I did smiteruns with w/me, skipping the aatxes in 15-20 minutes. For FoW beach it's around 25-30 i think.

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Plague on a Stick
none of this answers my second question about FoW BEACH and FoW FOREST
which is faster
which makes more money Yeah, they're pretty simillar. Now which is easier? In my mind both are easy once you're used to them. However the run to get to the forest is maybe harder than the run to the beach. A lot of players can't figure out how to pass the group of skellies at some point.

Milan-V

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Can't Touch [This]

I prefer Beach+cave...I can do it faster so that desicion is fast made ^^

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

why would you skip aatxe? as far as i remember they had the best drops?

drupal

drupal

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by fb2000
why would you skip aatxe? as far as i remember they had the best drops? That's true but Smites go down faster and Aatxes are more hard, not every build can handle them.

drupal

drupal

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by My War Can Solo Everythin
I'd like to post my "solo the whole fow build in 1 hour" but...
I'm italian so it takes time to translate skill's names, mob's names etc..
And i'm not good at making videos but i will try to make a guide, its so funny to do^^ and 50-60k as reward for who can do it.
I dunno which is better between solo fow and solo uw...
Coz solo fow= 1 hour= 50k, solo uw= 20 mins each run and 50k/hour...
Fastest? uw. Adrenalinic? fow. I make the same money/hour in both so
cant really say whats better... Alternate! Still waitin...

tuna-fish_sushi

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by My War Can Solo Everythin
Each group of mobs takes less than 1 min with that build, so u can do it in 1 hour.

Best things i got recently:
- Lots Chaos Axes, with low req or just perfect mods
- Gold Shadow/Gloom Shields
- Gold Shadow Swords
- Sapphires/Rubies (very frequently in this period, 1 of them each run ofc)
- Crystalline (it was req 12 but still gold and 15 enchanted, sold for 200k, found from chest)
- Ecto if u do the quest and kill banshee!!!

When u cleaned up the whole place u have 15/20 shards, 3-6 golds, and about 5k in white stuffs.

In this way, doing it repeatly, i gained about 3 mil, it takes 1 hour but worth it, and funny coz u cant die lol.
The only problem is that ****** Rastigan, he suicide himself sometimes -_- i hate him!
Btw, i say before making the guide: You must have and beated NF and proph or u cant do it.

Pande, another italian!!! PM me in game i'll show u how to do it!
I'll show the build to Pande so he can help me to make a guide soon ehh the bolded and underlined part is a bit fishy but if you can show us a screenie of you at the forgemaster by yourself i will be more then convinced.

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

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Quote:
Originally Posted by novawhiz
Which takes longer/shorter?
If your talking about soloing whole UW its like 4 hours. I don't think there is a solo build, doing UW (totally) all by yourself --> if there is then you are impressive good and i think you have a cheat code "GOD mode ON"

jbwarrior

jbwarrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Netherlands

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by My War Can Solo Everythin
Each group of mobs takes less than 1 min with that build, so u can do it in 1 hour.

Best things i got recently:
- Lots Chaos Axes, with low req or just perfect mods
- Gold Shadow/Gloom Shields
- Gold Shadow Swords
- Sapphires/Rubies (very frequently in this period, 1 of them each run ofc)
- Crystalline (it was req 12 but still gold and 15 enchanted, sold for 200k, found from chest)
- Ecto if u do the quest and kill banshee!!!

When u cleaned up the whole place u have 15/20 shards, 3-6 golds, and about 5k in white stuffs.

In this way, doing it repeatly, i gained about 3 mil, it takes 1 hour but worth it, and funny coz u cant die lol.
The only problem is that ****** Rastigan, he suicide himself sometimes -_- i hate him!
Btw, i say before making the guide: You must have and beated NF and proph or u cant do it.

Pande, another italian!!! PM me in game i'll show u how to do it!
I'll show the build to Pande so he can help me to make a guide soon * 5K in White stuff???? How big is your bag it must be VERY Big. Or do you mean including gold coins?

* Crystalline found from chest --> you mean chest after a quest like the quest from Rastigan?

*You say build/guide is comming soon --> it's now already 2 months ago, so that's why a lot of ppl don't believe you. Especialy if you say it's done in 1 hour

Cya,

Mr Jorgen

zorbi

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

He lies because gold crystallines drop nowadays only from HoH chests.

Baaaa Ha ha ha...

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Ice Hellion Alliance

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anyone know if i can replace stuff in witte's build:
Dolyak Signet and Shield Stance?
thanks

Silent Elvin Ranger

Silent Elvin Ranger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Ontario, Canada

Hello,

First off, way to hi-jack his thread there Witte. Nicely done. lol j/k.

Second, in the same amount of time spent farming, FoW and UW are the same profit-wise. As for your question of what's easier between forest and beach: It depnds on the build. For example, The Ranger Forest Farmer is faster than the Warrior beach, but the Dervish Beach beats the Ranger Forest Farmer (and ive also heard the Ritualist Forest Farmer is faster than the Dervish Beach Farmer).

And finally, do Rubies Saphires and Diamonds drop in the Forest? I have heard they drop on the beach. If so, which monsters do they drop from?

~Silent

Baaaa Ha ha ha...

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Ice Hellion Alliance

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the rt run to forest is reallyyyyy hard

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by zorbi
He lies because gold crystallines drop nowadays only from HoH chests. my guess is he mistyped and meant it was grape. but now we'll never know with all you guys attacking him, why the hell would he post his build after all this crap.

Either way though which is faster and makes more money is as pointlessly vague of a question as any of the answers to it will be meaningless without knowing what you want to farm with?

Alien Bobster

Alien Bobster

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Sverige

Running Rangers [RR]

R/N

I'd say FoW is most profitable and funny. Got 105 shards for my FoW armour in >10 hours. When i was gonna get the ectos it took me 10 hours to get 20.

and since shards is 3 times less you can recount that to 105 shards vs 60 shards... FoW ftw!

Baaaa Ha ha ha...

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2007

Ice Hellion Alliance

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can some1 tell me if i can replace dolyak sig and shield stance with factions and nightfall only skills