guild wars utopia confirmed???

kyro27

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http://guildwarsutopia.com

brings you to the actual main website.

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hmmmmmmmmmmm tricky

Senrath

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*sigh* They said Utopia was going to be used for a "secret" project, but it is not Chapter 4's title.

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hmm thats very odd.. nice job spotting that can't wait for information on it

talonrid

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Guild Wars: Utopia is liscensed by Arena.Net. That's a fact. Guild Wars: Utopia is not the official name of Chapter 4, that's also a fact. It's most likely the development name, or the name of a side project.

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Interesting, we'll just have to see what Anet decide to do in regards to Guild Wars: Utopia

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its probably like the thing where the revolution was codename for the wii.

Scroz

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i think it was the name of a side project that they dropped but don't quote me on that

Liberations

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The name of an expansion pack, not a campaign maybe? I think Guild Wars needs a regular expansion pack for liek 30 dollars (US) to help smoothe out the things missing from the game. It might also be a new in game forum/voice chat/store software, you never know.

Oh btw I went to that secret place near Fort Ranik in the pre sear and saw some things that couldnt be explained by anything in any of the chapters... ???

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senrath
*sigh* They said Utopia was going to be used for a "secret" project, but it is not Chapter 4's title.
No, GameSpot said that. They didn't name anyone from ANet as a source, so it's nothing more than rumors.

Quote:
Originally Posted by talonrid
Guild Wars: Utopia is liscensed by Arena.Net. That's a fact.
Wrong, the site was registered by NCSoft.
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Guild Wars: Utopia is not the official name of Chapter 4, that's also a fact.
Wrong again. No-one from ANet has officially confirmed or denied the rumors.

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http://www.guildwarsnightfall.com now redirects to the main guild wars page too - it didn't for a long time. I think that they've just done a clean up of their domains and redirected them correctly.

I don't think that the story on utopia has changed since gamespot said it was bogus;
http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_bl...stnews;title;4

Puebert

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scroz
i think it was the name of a side project that they dropped but don't quote me on that
Muahaha!

But on topic; WOW! I thought they dropped that project.

Odd... but nice find.

Kakumei

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Quote:
Originally Posted by fRag_Doll
No, GameSpot said that. They didn't name anyone from ANet as a source, so it's nothing more than rumors.
No, but NCSoft denied it.

Quote:
An NCsoft representative put the rumor to rest for us, saying, "It actually was used as a project name for an unannounced project, but we do not intend to use it for a product name."
Edit: Take it as you will. I doubt it'll be called "Utopia"--when Nightfall was discovered as the name, no one at NCSoft or Anet denied it, or even said anything about it until the official announcement. The fact that they're taking the time to deny it this time makes me think they're going with a different name.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
Quote:
Originally Posted by fRag_Doll
No, GameSpot said that. They didn't name anyone from ANet as a source, so it's nothing more than rumors.
No, but NCSoft denied it.

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An NCsoft representative put the rumor to rest for us, saying, "It actually was used as a project name for an unannounced project, but we do not intend to use it for a product name."
No they didn't. GameSpot claim NCSoft have denied it. Just because someone says something, doesn't make it true. No matter who they work for.
Unless an identified team member from either ANet or NCSoft is directly quoted, or an official announcement is made, everything is just rumors.

EDIT- I'm not trying to say chapter 4 will be called Utopia, I don't know anything. I'm just trying to get people to stop treating rumors as facts.

EDIT #2- I'd just like to point out that NCSoft don't name the games, they're just the publishers.

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I can feel it.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Liberations
The name of an expansion pack, not a campaign maybe? I think Guild Wars needs a regular expansion pack for liek 30 dollars (US) to help smoothe out the things missing from the game. It might also be a new in game forum/voice chat/store software, you never know.

Oh btw I went to that secret place near Fort Ranik in the pre sear and saw some things that couldnt be explained by anything in any of the chapters... ???
what in pre cant be explained?

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Liberations
Oh btw I went to that secret place near Fort Ranik in the pre sear and saw some things that couldnt be explained by anything in any of the chapters... ???
Whosawhat now?

Winterclaw

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Until Anet says yes, consider it a no. They registered the Utopia site right after they did the NF one so if they were going to make an announcement, they've had plenty of time.

Domino

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Hmmm.... when you have two choices:

1. Confirm the name of your 4th title and lose some of your thunder on the big "announcement day" of the next Chapter

2. Lie and say Utopia doesn't mean anything

what are you going to pick.... c'mon people

Feminist Terrorist

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Domino
Hmmm.... when you have two choices:

1. Confirm the name of your 4th title and lose some of your thunder on the big "announcement day" of the next Chapter

2. Lie and say Utopia doesn't mean anything

what are you going to pick.... c'mon people
Lie like a rug!

Tobias Funke

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Originally Posted by Pan Head
what in pre cant be explained?
He probably means Melendru's cave.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Regent_...Pre-Searing%29

Nickhimself

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I remember reading something where they were talking about introducing "life skills" into the game, like fishing, crafting (possibly) and some others.

This might be that update / patch / expansion.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickhimself
I remember reading something where they were talking about introducing "life skills" into the game, like fishing, crafting (possibly) and some others.

This might be that update / patch / expansion.
Seems likely, I read that too. At any rate, think of this: If there is a new campaign, the PvP event (should there be one!) would be Feb. on the last weekend. Then the PvE would be a month after. Anet could announce this any day now!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickhimself
I remember reading something where they were talking about introducing "life skills" into the game, like fishing, crafting (possibly) and some others.

This might be that update / patch / expansion.
Doubtful... this is all speculation, and Utopia probably isn't the name, considering they would have registered the name under copyright.... they didn't. Then again, NCSoft could be quite brave and not copyright it until it is almost released. Who knows, there is enough speculation in this thread to start a new career as a finger doctor, because your fingers are going to be sooo sore from pointing them this way and that way.

On a side note... I don't want to see another game, rather an expansion. New abilities for the existing classes, maybe 1 new class, but I would prefer no new classes. Perhaps they could bring Dhuum into the story? I doubt he is dead, you can't kill a god. Grenth needs to get his ass kicked around a bit by the old man.

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Very interesting... no it hasn't been confirmed. When someone asked Gaile Gray she seemed to skip the question, even answering questions that had been asking before about 2minutes before that. I think you people have stumbled onto something...

Terra Xin

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Looks like the people that tried to quash the speculations were somewhat incorrect themselves.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Winterclaw
Until Anet says yes, consider it a no. They registered the Utopia site right after they did the NF one so if they were going to make an announcement, they've had plenty of time.
I would suggest people pick from one of Gaile Gray's responses; 'maybe', 'probrably', 'perhaps', 'possibly', 'I'll have to ask what the developers have to say', 'I'll get back to you on that', '*skips the question*', 'the future is looking good'... but not 'no'. *cough* just teasing^^.

I for one would put my money on the next installment to be called Guild Wars: Utopia, mainly because they have done the exact same thing with Nightfall (http://guildwarsnightfall.com) and Factions (http://guildwarsfactions.com). Its not possible to provide hard evidence that the game will most definately be called Utopia, but trends are not easy to break.

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Chapter 4 will be call "Return of teh Farmz0rs, I wanna 100k + XX plats"

It doesnt matter how they call it, everyone will buy it .

Tetris L

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Originally Posted by fRag_Doll
No they didn't. GameSpot claim NCSoft have denied it. Just because someone says something, doesn't make it true. No matter who they work for.
GameSpot is probably THE #1 gaming website, even ahead of GS/IGN, and all the publishers have a major interest of mainatining good relations with them. If GameSpot quote a publisher respresentative then that means that they got a personal email. They wouldn't make up such quotes from rumors or hearsay.

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It will just be one of the many website address's which Anet bought incase they need them.

I expect they have countless website address which will lead you to their main website, if you looked for them.

Since this one doesnt take you to any particular utopia website, instead of the normal one, I wouldnt put any faith in it being something special.

fRag_Doll

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris L
GameSpot is probably THE #1 gaming website, even ahead of GS/IGN, and all the publishers have a major interest of mainatining good relations with them. If GameSpot quote a publisher respresentative then that means that they got a personal email. They wouldn't make up such quotes from rumors or hearsay.
But they would try to misdirect people trying to spoil the surprise if NCSoft asked them to.
By failing to name their source they give NCSoft plausable deniability.

Tetris L

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There's a difference between "misdirect" and lie. PR people are very careful what they say when they want to shroud something that is not yet ready to be revealed. Gaile Gray is an expert in making unclear, misdirecting statements in such cases. But she has never lied. If NCsoft say "we do not intend to use it for a product name" and later use it as the name for a campaign (which is clearly a product), that would be a plain lie. That's something I wouldn't expect them to do.

Terra Xin

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Quote:
Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
It will just be one of the many website address's which Anet bought incase they need them.

I expect they have countless website address which will lead you to their main website, if you looked for them.

Since this one doesnt take you to any particular utopia website, instead of the normal one, I wouldnt put any faith in it being something special.
Aren't you also basing that on speculation? Don't start a rumour chain now...

-Loki-

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris L
GameSpot is probably THE #1 gaming website, even ahead of GS/IGN
I used to believe that until they gave in to Microsoft and littered their PS3 section with Xbox 360 advertising.

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Originally Posted by -Loki-
I used to believe that until they gave in to Microsoft and littered their PS3 section with Xbox 360 advertising.
But theres nothing wrong with showing contempt for the PS3

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skepticism

Noone knows anything concrete, other than the website. But as already pointed out, it could be for a side-project. So the conclusion is that until more evidence, the existence of GW:U is a negative.

RTSFirebat

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tobias Funke
It is in fact called Melandru's Garden, not cave ^^

Oh and this redirect is not proof of anything a lot of companies setup unuse domain names to their main sites in case people try to use them.

Like we all have in this case.

Myria

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Just out of curiosity, why are we all still wondering what the name of the next GW chapter will be? Not, mind you, why do we want to know, but instead why do we not already know? Presumably they've picked a name by now, likely long since, and while some things likely remain in flux there is likely quite a lot about the next chapter that is set in stone.

Why is it we know nothing whatsoever, beyond having been told they're working on... Something?

I just don't get the secrecy. I knew more about Oblivion a year before it was released than I knew about Nightfall a week before it was released -- a bit of an exageration, perhaps, but not by much. I can't imagine Anet is afraid someone is going to steal their ideas -- and. let's be honest here, originality is not their strong suit anyway -- so why is it that the name of the next chapter will likely come out because someone poked around the /whois database rather than having been announced, along with a couple of paltry details and more fanfare than is really justified, by Anet by now?

It can't be because they're afraid of losing sales on Prophecies/Factions/Nightfall, can it? Anyone buying any of those probably knows there's going to be another chapeter in a couple of months anyway -- it's not like holding off on buying AOE II because you heard AOE III is coming out soon.

I suppose the only real answer is that Anet feels a deluge of information weeks before release builds excitement better than a trickle from one chapter to the next. Perhaps they're right, certianly marketing is well outside my areas of expertise, but frankly I think tossing the playerbase a nugget now and then before the deluge starts -- like the name of the next chapter, setting, what have you -- would be a better way to go.

Lonesamurai

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Actually Myria, according to some sources (namely release schedules from a few big name companies) Guild Wars Chapter 4 is due for release in September 2007, so if we go by previous releases, we'll start to hear about it June, PvP weekend in July and PvE event in August before release in September

Quite a while off yet them

Feminist Terrorist

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickhimself
I remember reading something where they were talking about introducing "life skills" into the game, like fishing, crafting (possibly) and some others.
Nooo, that was merely players speculating about what they might like to see in GW. That "info" never came from official sources.

Myria, my best guess about why we don't know anything is that Anet loves to keep people guessing, buzzing, talking, fussing and spreading rumors about Guild Wars. It keeps interest high, which is great for future sales. I've watched them play the players for 20 months now. It's fascinating but predictable.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
It will just be one of the many website address's which Anet bought incase they need them.

I expect they have countless website address which will lead you to their main website, if you looked for them.

Since this one doesnt take you to any particular utopia website, instead of the normal one, I wouldnt put any faith in it being something special.
That means nothing guildwarsfactions.com and guildwarsnightfalls.com points to the name site also not to some site just for that chapter. It is one thing to reserve the name which was done a long time ago, but it only recently started to point to the main site. Which is what start the rumors up again.