I was just wonderign what everyone though the ideal party would have in guild wars heres what I think it is based on what I know and what people have taught me.
Rit/M
N/M
W/M
D or P/M
E/Me
R/
Me/E
A/W
Rit/Mo can heal the entire party effectively so saves having to have 2healers. W/M and D or P/m can take all the damage for everyone alongwith the assasin can interupt thier bosses along weith taking them out. N/M is obvious for those who its isnt has something to do with a ravernous horde. Me/E takes oyut their healers and powerful casters while doing abit of damage to other people. E/Me does alot of damage to all of them and helps takes out thier casters. Ranger interrupts them abit and spreads conditions along with haveing a pet to help distract them adn maybe trapping them abit. This is just my preference what about everyone elses? If you have alot of casters though I find having a BiP can be very useful.
What classes do oyu think the Ideal Party in Guild Wars will have
Vorianatriedes
Age
Excuse me but a Rit. can't heal a party a effective as Monk or can directly protect them as they can so your Ideal Party doesn't look to good and you have a Derv. and an Sin who can't take that amount of damage 1 is enough.
dgb
4 Barrage Rangers
2 Dragon Slashers
An orders necro
A zealous benediction monk.
It's what I annihilated Nightfall with, it's just so broken really in PVE.
2 Dragon Slashers
An orders necro
A zealous benediction monk.
It's what I annihilated Nightfall with, it's just so broken really in PVE.
Pwny Ride
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Originally Posted by dgb
2 Dragon Slashers
An orders necro
A zealous benediction monk.
It's what I annihilated Nightfall with, it's just so broken really in PVE.
No Nightfall did NOT kill PvE, people killed PvE.
Anyway my party ~
Mo/E
Mo/Me
W/Mo
Me/Mo (fast casting resurrections ftw)
N/Mo
R/Mo
E/Me
E/Me
Now i worked it out using only core professions, making them acessible to all campaigns, esseintially being ideal
African War Lord
Rt/Mo
Rt/Me
Rt/E
Rt/R
N/Mo
D/W
P/W
Mo/Me
fun
Rt/Me
Rt/E
Rt/R
N/Mo
D/W
P/W
Mo/Me
fun
Craero
W/any
E/me
N/me
Mo/any
Mo/me
E/me
N/me
Mo/any
Mo/me
Ensign
For PvE? 1 Monk, 1 Necro Minions/Orders, 1 Paragon/Warrior (Command/WY), 5 (Dragon Slash, Barrage w/ Pet, Dervish).
Distribute as much defense as you need to get by with 1 Monk.
Peace,
-CxE
Distribute as much defense as you need to get by with 1 Monk.
Peace,
-CxE
dgb
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Originally Posted by Pwny Ride
R/Me
R/Me
R/W
R/P
W/whatever
W/whatever
N/Mo
Mo/E
Now didn't that acheive a big freaking lot.
African War Lord
it made it worse lol
beltran13579
W/Mo(Tank)
Mo/Me(Healer)
Mo/Me(Tank Bonder)
E/Mo(Nuker)
E/Mo(Nuker)
E/Mo(Nuker)
E/Mo(Nuker)
N/Mo(MM)
or do the samething with 4 Mo Barrage and a Order Necro not MM
Mo/Me(Healer)
Mo/Me(Tank Bonder)
E/Mo(Nuker)
E/Mo(Nuker)
E/Mo(Nuker)
E/Mo(Nuker)
N/Mo(MM)
or do the samething with 4 Mo Barrage and a Order Necro not MM
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Pwny Ride
No Nightfall did NOT kill PvE, people killed PvE. Listen to your own advice. He didn't say Nightfall killed PvE, he said his build killed Nightfall PvE.
Fury Incarnate
I'm a fan of:
R/Mo (Barrage)
R/Mo (Barrage)
R/P (Barrage)
R/P (Barrage)
P/W (Support)
E/Mo (Nuker)
Mo/Me (Heal or Prot)
Open Slot
The open slot can be another monk for damage-heavy areas, another barrager or nuker for areas with large groups, a spiker for individual targets with evasion/blocking stances, an Orders or Battery Necro... basically, whatever the group needs for the particular area.
Before I get a lot of "Zomg, where's the tank" or "Lol, 4 barragers?" posts, I run this exact team breakdown quite often - "Stand Your Ground!" on the two R/P's and "Watch Yourself!" on the P/W turn all the rangers into tanks when you combine them with Whirling Defense, and with my Paragon spamming Song of Restoration, Aria of Zeal, and Energizing Finale, I have more than enough energy and healing to keep the group going with one monk. Throw in "Go For The Eyes!" on the three Para's and Wild Throw on the primary one, and you have one heck of a nasty group.
R/Mo (Barrage)
R/Mo (Barrage)
R/P (Barrage)
R/P (Barrage)
P/W (Support)
E/Mo (Nuker)
Mo/Me (Heal or Prot)
Open Slot
The open slot can be another monk for damage-heavy areas, another barrager or nuker for areas with large groups, a spiker for individual targets with evasion/blocking stances, an Orders or Battery Necro... basically, whatever the group needs for the particular area.
Before I get a lot of "Zomg, where's the tank" or "Lol, 4 barragers?" posts, I run this exact team breakdown quite often - "Stand Your Ground!" on the two R/P's and "Watch Yourself!" on the P/W turn all the rangers into tanks when you combine them with Whirling Defense, and with my Paragon spamming Song of Restoration, Aria of Zeal, and Energizing Finale, I have more than enough energy and healing to keep the group going with one monk. Throw in "Go For The Eyes!" on the three Para's and Wild Throw on the primary one, and you have one heck of a nasty group.
Seef II
The more offense (Warriors, Rangers, Dervishes) you pack into your group backed up by Orders or minions, the faster you kill in general PvE.
Barrage Pet + paragons, or Ensign's build work fine. You don't need 2 monks.
Barrage Pet + paragons, or Ensign's build work fine. You don't need 2 monks.
Arrows[PURE]
Well i'd go with
Mo/ele (ZB prot)
Mo/Mes (Healers boon)
W/E or W/Mo (tank)
R/Mo (Broad head arrow + interupts maybe??)
Ele/mo (nuker)
Ele/mo (nuker)
Mes/mo (dom and as said before, fast casting res FTW
N/mo (MM) or N/me (SS maybe)
Mo/ele (ZB prot)
Mo/Mes (Healers boon)
W/E or W/Mo (tank)
R/Mo (Broad head arrow + interupts maybe??)
Ele/mo (nuker)
Ele/mo (nuker)
Mes/mo (dom and as said before, fast casting res FTW
N/mo (MM) or N/me (SS maybe)
Jetdoc
1 Monk
1 Ritualist
1 Paragon
1 Necro Minion Master
4 Damage Classes - your choice
1 Ritualist
1 Paragon
1 Necro Minion Master
4 Damage Classes - your choice
Akhilleus
2 monks
1 para or rit (which can supply both offensive and defensive capibilities)
1 blood support nec (read; orders, wells and +nrgy rituals with occasional armor-ignoring spike skills)
4 other damage-classes.
its the basic template that has worked in all 3 games for me. except that when rits and paras didnt exist you'd just take a mes, ranger, MM, or whatever. but, in prophecies there wasnt as much of a chance of your party being wiped.
1 para or rit (which can supply both offensive and defensive capibilities)
1 blood support nec (read; orders, wells and +nrgy rituals with occasional armor-ignoring spike skills)
4 other damage-classes.
its the basic template that has worked in all 3 games for me. except that when rits and paras didnt exist you'd just take a mes, ranger, MM, or whatever. but, in prophecies there wasnt as much of a chance of your party being wiped.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Akhilleus
2 monks
1 para or rit (which can supply both offensive and defensive capibilities)
1 blood support nec (read; orders, wells and +nrgy rituals with occasional armor-ignoring spike skills)
4 other damage-classes. Yeah, this is what I usually run in PvE. Except for places like RoT and such, I play more defensively.
1 para or rit (which can supply both offensive and defensive capibilities)
1 blood support nec (read; orders, wells and +nrgy rituals with occasional armor-ignoring spike skills)
4 other damage-classes. Yeah, this is what I usually run in PvE. Except for places like RoT and such, I play more defensively.
Coloneh
PvE is easy:
D/X
W/X
N/Me
N/Mo
2 * N/E
N/Mo
N/Rt
you just cant beat necros in PvE
D/X
W/X
N/Me
N/Mo
2 * N/E
N/Mo
N/Rt
you just cant beat necros in PvE
Tiny Killer
The more I play the more I think "Give me 8 of whatever". As long as everyone has some self healing ability and a reasonable degree of playing skill party make-up does not seem to matter much. The only time things seem to go poorly is when certain builds/classes are "required".
Ensign
Domain of Anguish and the Factions Elite Missions are the only areas of the game that need more than one Monk.
With the nerfs to SF/GG, MM/Orders is the only caster worth bringing in PvE on an ideal team.
Peace,
-CxE
With the nerfs to SF/GG, MM/Orders is the only caster worth bringing in PvE on an ideal team.
Peace,
-CxE
qvtkc
W/Mo (can solo anything)
jesh
6 Lyssa dervishes (D/Rt, D/W)
Distribute copies of Nightmare Weapon, Splinter Weapon and Wild Blow throughout.
All dervishes should have both Mystic Sweep and Eremite's Attack. The D/Ws should carry Protector's Strike as well.
1 N/Mo with Healer's Boon and Order of Pain, or Order of the Vampire and misc. Healing Prayers, mostly Heal Party. Raising minions just slows down the killing.
1 Protection monk
Mo/A with Assassin's Promise and Aegis works nice for the necro's Dwayna's Kiss.
Distribute copies of Nightmare Weapon, Splinter Weapon and Wild Blow throughout.
All dervishes should have both Mystic Sweep and Eremite's Attack. The D/Ws should carry Protector's Strike as well.
1 N/Mo with Healer's Boon and Order of Pain, or Order of the Vampire and misc. Healing Prayers, mostly Heal Party. Raising minions just slows down the killing.
1 Protection monk
Mo/A with Assassin's Promise and Aegis works nice for the necro's Dwayna's Kiss.
Dr Strangelove
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Originally Posted by Ensign
Domain of Anguish and the Factions Elite Missions are the only areas of the game that need more than one Monk.
With the nerfs to SF/GG, MM/Orders is the only caster worth bringing in PvE on an ideal team.
Peace,
-CxE The second monk in PvE is retard insurance against a guy who spams healing breeze.
What about a splinter/nightmare/brutal weapon rit to buff up your physicals?
With the nerfs to SF/GG, MM/Orders is the only caster worth bringing in PvE on an ideal team.
Peace,
-CxE The second monk in PvE is retard insurance against a guy who spams healing breeze.
What about a splinter/nightmare/brutal weapon rit to buff up your physicals?
Franco Power
5 W/R
1 Trapper
2 N/MO
1 Trapper
2 N/MO
Total Rogue
1 monk (prot)
2 necros (mm/orders)
5 damage dealers (Barragers/dragon slashers)
2 necros (mm/orders)
5 damage dealers (Barragers/dragon slashers)
DeBron
1 N/Mo as a MM or BiP.
1 Rt/X for either weapon spells or restoration.
1 Mo/Me for healing and/or protection.
1 E/X for offensive/defensive earth magic or offensive fire magic.
1 R/X or Me/X for interrupts.
3 High damage attackers: preferably consisting of W/Xs and/or D/Xs.
I try to be fair to all the classes when forming a PvE group.
1 Rt/X for either weapon spells or restoration.
1 Mo/Me for healing and/or protection.
1 E/X for offensive/defensive earth magic or offensive fire magic.
1 R/X or Me/X for interrupts.
3 High damage attackers: preferably consisting of W/Xs and/or D/Xs.
I try to be fair to all the classes when forming a PvE group.
Zedd Kun
Rt/Any
Rt/Any
Rt/Any
Rt/Any
Rt/Any
Rt/Any
Rt/Any
Rt/Any
Everyone should bring Ritual Lord, Boon of Creation, Union, Shelter, Recuperation and Pain.
Spam Pain, and then keep up spamming protection so the defence multiplies and pain will never die!
Rt/Any
Rt/Any
Rt/Any
Rt/Any
Rt/Any
Rt/Any
Rt/Any
Everyone should bring Ritual Lord, Boon of Creation, Union, Shelter, Recuperation and Pain.
Spam Pain, and then keep up spamming protection so the defence multiplies and pain will never die!
Skuld
Except you can't have more than one of each type of spirit per team, so you fail.
Zedd Kun
I was kidding.
.. So you fail.
.. So you fail.
Utaku
Damage :
1 N/Me Spiteful Spirit nuker
1 N/any Minion Master
1 W dragon slasher or triple chopper
1 R barrager
Support :
1 El Warder
1 N/any blood support : wells, blood ritual, orders...
1 M ZB prot
1 P/W command
1 N/Me Spiteful Spirit nuker
1 N/any Minion Master
1 W dragon slasher or triple chopper
1 R barrager
Support :
1 El Warder
1 N/any blood support : wells, blood ritual, orders...
1 M ZB prot
1 P/W command
Priest Of Sin
6 Searing Flames elementalists
1 Bonder monk
1 Spirit Spam/healer rit.
bwahahaha... burn, my enemies, BURN.
1 Bonder monk
1 Spirit Spam/healer rit.
bwahahaha... burn, my enemies, BURN.
Div
Why do people keep asking for the "best" party or the "best" skillbar? Guild wars is such a big game that can vary greatly. There is no ideal party, as it can be different from area to area. A perfect team in a regular area can consist of 7 damage dealers and a monk if the monk's competent to make for fastest killing and completion of task. A "good" DoA party consists of a tank, 3 damage healers, 1 support, and 3 monks. An "ideal" PvP party can never be achieved, as the game is constantly evolving.