Request: LoD gvg/ha Build

For GvG (I don't know HA) one build that I saw and liked used Gift of Health with Light of Deliverance. Obviously, you can only use one skill or the other at any given time, but it shouldn't be too bad. It doesn't have condition removal, but there is a lot of pressure healing to overcome that problem as long as others can remove the key conditions.

14 healing, 12 divine, 7 protection, 2 shadow

Light of Deliverance
Gift of Health
Reversal of Fortune
Protective Spirit
Shield of Absorption
Holy Veil
Dark Escape
Return

If you don't want to bring Gift of Health, then I would use Infuse Health (which means I don't really need Reversal of Fortune) and can bring Heal Other/Dwayna's Kiss. Obviously, the secondary can be any of the viable possibilities.

@Burst: The lack of Gift does leave a vacuum, but to me the great thing about Gift is its efficiency. Heal Other is much less efficient and similarly less desirable. Wouldn't it be feasible to use Infuse as your "big" heal, since it has no recharge, and bring a more smaller but efficient heal for just tossing around? Maybe Dwayna's Kiss or something? I'm sure we can agree that Heal Other can't be used the same as Gift, so the former can't really replace the latter.

I see what you mean about the lack of decent alternatives, but I just hate Heal Other. I'd be tempted to just take another prot skill if I couldn't find a decent 5e heal.

Infuse is even worse than Heal Other from an efficiency standpoint, and you already have a smaller, efficient heal in LoD. Running multiple 10e spells might feel odd, but it's really not a big issue considering that all of them are used in different situations. You will never find yourself using Infuse, Spirit Bond, and Heal Other sequentially, for instance. Written a different way, just because you have three 10e spells doesn't compell you to use them all at once.

You're right that Heal Other isn't a replacement for Gift, and that's really what saves it. Gift is an efficient spam heal to make red bars go up. Heal Other is the rarely-used big heal you use when, say, there's a Grenth train on the off monk and you've run out of other options. Heal Other is there to account for the lack of raw healing strength in LoD bars.

As has been said before, the fact that terrible spells like Breeze and Other actually see tournament play only proves that the entire Healing line is a giant pile of shit.

Well I usually use this in HA and works fine for me

[skill]Light of Deliverance[/skill][skill]Infuse Health[/skill][skill]Draw Conditions[/skill][skill]Holy Veil[/skill][skill]Orison Of Healing[/skill][skill]Dwayna's Kiss[/skill][skill]Channeling[/skill][skill]Healing Seed[/skill]

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What about touch to heal your self after you use infuse if you do use it?When use GoH though you will be disabling LoD for xx sec and any other healing spells.

Self-healing after infuse isn't the big problem, since you have LoD and probably an LoD or HP runner (GvG anyway), plus the other monk can Gift you.

I suppose you guys are right. Heal Other looks like a necessary evil for LoD infuser. I don't have experience monking in GvG, as I usually play midline or warrior, but I like to stay on top of these things for future reference and advising guildies.