How Powerful can a Channeling Ritualist be?

How can yall be using [skill]Destruction[/skill] WITHOUT [skill]Rupture Soul[/skill]?!?! That's proposterous!

Attributes:
Channeling Magic: 16 (1+3)
Spawning Power: 13
Restoration Magic: the rest.

Skills:
Spirit Rift
Destruction
Rupture Soul
Essence Strike
Spirit Boon Strike
Grasping Was Kuurong (E) or any e-management elite.
Optional
Optional

If you work time right you can afford the full cycle once, but without any sort of e-management you can't recover from the energy usage very fast. Drop Destruction just outside of aggro range. Aggro, caste Grasping, upon arrival of foes to adjecant range caste Essence if a little energy is needed for Rupture. AFter at least 20 seconds cast Spirit Rift, use Rupture Soul, drop Grasping Was Kuurong, then use any self heal or e-management you may have brought...

All in all you just did 79 dmg from Grasping + 142 dmg from Rift + 146 dmg from Rupture + around 100 dmg from Destruction + KD + Blind = 467 Pre-Armor Lightning dmg. So of course if they will still be alive, you have some time to recover with 13 seconds of blind on them... Use Essence + whatever else you got for e-recovery, or use something for self heal... This is a general PvE AoE build...

As most said though, you can actually dish out a steady stream of DPS on single targets as a Channeling Rit... hehe. Ya so thats my 2 cent fun build...

cheers! Sounds nice, the build I use it:
Channeling: 12 + 3 + 1 (16)
Restoration: 12
Weapon: Ssyn's channeling staff (2x health +30, 20% faster cast and recharge, is very handy and usefull)

Skills:
Gaze from Beyond
Echo (elite)
Destruction
Channelled strike
Essence strike
Renewing Surge
Generous was Tsungrai
(res or flesh of my flesh)

Simply use destruction as energy battery, and find some nice out of the battle place and start spiking down some enemies. If you do the cycle well you'll not get out of energy that fast, and when destruction is dead because of Gaze, you can cast already a new one. Renewing surge does instand recharge when holding generous was tsungrai ashes, and can be usefull to kill enemies when you couldn't finish you real high damage spike cycle.

The damage you do is:
if spirit: Gaze from beyond = (42x3)126, Gaze Echo = 126, Channeled strike = (101+37) 138, essence strike= 66, Gaze from beyond = 126
Total of 1 cycle: (126x3) + 138 + 66 = 582 dmg for sure, and I did not even touch Renewing surge whish does 63 dmg spamable and when enemies are close Destruction does addition dmg which can be around 150.
The fun thing is that when you cast 3 times Gaze, your spirit dies, but cast him again, do essence strike and boem energy enough for extra cycle.
This is where Destructive was Glaive with 25% armor penestration was just awesome, I could do with only 1 Gaze from beyond, 150/200 dmg on armor 60 in 1 shot. Too bad they changed it back to 5% which does give you some extra dmg on spikes, but not that effective. (btw with that elite, just replace echo with archane echo)

Now 582dmg sounds awesome, but actually you'll do just around 400dmg or 350 to armor 100 warriors, and yes that's sad. Althought with some running, hide behind walls and touch my destruction tactics you can kill a warrior with ease. Also ele spike builds are a laught, they try to spike you, but around the time you're almost dead, they are already eating dust. Same for lots of builds, the only real counters are: Energy denial, interupts and big melee spikes. But well it's still a very nice build for GvG and AB, but totally not for PvE, then you can better go Restoration or Communing.

What was directed at you was how meaningless this test is. I won't talk about the conditional nature of both classes (haha, no spirits. Oh? Did your Orb miss. Out of energy?). I find this very funny.

No offense taken by the way

But really...My ele is my best character. First and favourite. My energy is around the 75 mark and rarely drops below 50...unless I die. So, no, I'm never out of energy during battle...unlike my Rit when she goes Channeling. Also, I'm not stupid enough to cast Lightning Orb on a warrior who is using sprint...because that's just dumb. When I take Lightning Orb I tend to use it on stationary foes. Orb is also not the only Elementalist spell So...really...Rits still have a much much bigger problem. Destruction is a rubbish spirit to take along - this I have already established. Empowerment seems a little pointless...

But your test is just wrong. A cursory glance at the channelling nukes will illustrate that they are in almost all ways superior to anything in air. *rubs eyes*

Nope, still don't see much to back up that claim...

I'm not saying you're wrong....but I'm still very very unconvinced.

But your test is just wrong. A cursory glance at the channelling nukes will illustrate that they are in almost all ways superior to anything in air. On the surface, they are better - more damage for less energy. Good deal right? Only problem with that is, eles have some of the most ridiculously powerful energy management skills in the game. Rits have... attuned was songkai. So while eles can drop 15 and 25 energy nukes without batting an eye, tossing down even a couple spirit rifts *hurts*.

It really hit me hardest when I played without my heroes with some friends. They would charge in and kill everything before I could even cast my destruction and ashes. When I finally did get them up, I had to hope something decided to come attack me.

At any rate, if a rit wants to do damage, I don't know why you wouldn't run weapon of remedy/vengeful weapon or spirit's strength.

Dude people if you learned NOTHING from my build in post #20... let me make it bluntly obvious!

STOP USING DESTRUCTION WITHOUT RUPTURE SOUL!!!!

Those skills were made for eachother. If you cant figure it out. Here is the skill descriptions AGAIN!

[skill]Destruction[/skill][skill]Rupture Soul[/skill]

Get it? If you dont use both, then do everyone a favor and dont use EITHER. One is pretty much a waste w/o the other. The combo serves multiple functions its really a no brainer.

Cheers according to you, but a skill has more than one use.

Dude people if you learned NOTHING from my build in post #20... let me make it bluntly obvious!

STOP USING DESTRUCTION WITHOUT RUPTURE SOUL!!!!

Those skills were made for eachother. If you cant figure it out. Here is the skill descriptions AGAIN!

[skill]Destruction[/skill][skill]Rupture Soul[/skill]

Get it? If you dont use both, then do everyone a favor and dont use EITHER. One is pretty much a waste w/o the other. The combo serves multiple functions its really a no brainer.

Cheers I'm with Terra on this one...I don't want to be up close to the mobs with my AL60 armor... Neither do I want to "coax" the over to me...I wouldn't want to cast destruction next to an avicara who's stabbing my eyes out and try to get rupture soul off before he kills me. I'd rather stay on the backline.

Thanks for the build Idea btw Terra, I'll give that a try tonight and see what I make of it.

As a PvE ritualist, I find direct damage using channeling to only work at lower level areas. It just cannot deal with the higher level creatures (about levels 20-30 depending on the class)

However, I did experiment over the testing weekend with indirect channeling builds. I found the ritualist can pour far more damaged indirectly than with direct channeling on higher level critters. Indirect damage includes the use of the changed Splinter Weapon (which i hope will remain as it was during the testing weekend) and other ally targeting spells.

Three allies with splinter weapon attacking a mob did far more damage than direct channeling could have. It was entertaining to see the group I was with exclaim in surprise with the speed those mobs dropped. I hope with the upcoming skill change the rit will see this method of indirect damage remain similar to the last testing period.
QFT. I was really pleased with the buffs to the offensive buff, they made the class much more interesting, and kinda more how I though it would be when I started playing it. If those stay, I'd be surprised to see any channeling rits running lightning damage over weapon buffs.

Terra's build up there seems like a nice idea. However, I think if you really want to see channeling nukes go berserk, just run an E/Rt with ether prodigy and a big pile of channeling nukes. Might actually be pretty interesting spamming spirit rift....

As a PvE ritualist, I find direct damage using channeling to only work at lower level areas. It just cannot deal with the higher level creatures (about levels 20-30 depending on the class)

However, I did experiment over the testing weekend with indirect channeling builds. I found the ritualist can pour far more damaged indirectly than with direct channeling on higher level critters. Indirect damage includes the use of the changed Splinter Weapon (which i hope will remain as it was during the testing weekend) and other ally targeting spells.

Three allies with splinter weapon attacking a mob did far more damage than direct channeling could have. It was entertaining to see the group I was with exclaim in surprise with the speed those mobs dropped. I hope with the upcoming skill change the rit will see this method of indirect damage remain similar to the last testing period. Exactly. Keep up the good work...

Three allies with splinter weapon attacking a mob did far more damage than direct channeling could have. It was entertaining to see the group I was with exclaim in surprise with the speed those mobs dropped. I hope with the upcoming skill change the rit will see this method of indirect damage remain similar to the last testing period. I have to admit, Splinter Weapon does look pretty awesome if the changes remain... I was working on a weapon spell build the other day and it's all so changeable and malleable...very cool really. It just seems to have the following format:

[wiki]Renewing Memories[/wiki]
[wiki]Wielder's Remedy[/wiki]
<Item Spell> (Ones I favour are [wiki]Generous was Tsungrai[/wiki], or [wiki]Tranquil was Tanasen[/wiki])
[wiki]Soothing Memories[/wiki]
<Weapon Spell>
<Weapon Spell>
<Weapon Spell>
<Weapon Spell>

Yes, Wielder's Zeal isn't there...I don't like E-management elites...as useful as they can be they're so boring. Wielder's Remedy is there primarily to cover Renewing Memories...in areas at high risk of enchantment removal.

As for the weapon spells, I found [wiki]Splinter Weapon[/wiki] and [wiki]Weapon of Fury[/wiki] to be nice from the channeling line (amongst others)...or a restoration build with Vengeful weapon, weapon of warding, Resilient Weapon...although the restoration one didn't really do much for me...

Anyone else tried a weapon-spell build with the new elonian skills?

Weapon of Remedy is probably the best weapon spell in the game. Closely followed by Weapon of Warding, Resilient Weapon, and Vengeful.
Most of the weapon spells are either good or okay. The only one that's really rubbish is Spirit Light Weapon... Aye, I capped weapon of remedy the other day - looks pretty awesome...like Vengeful Weapon's Elite.

I thought combining Serpent's Quickness with Vengeful Weapon / Weapon of Remedy would make them uber-spammable.

Aye, I capped weapon of remedy the other day - looks pretty awesome...like Vengeful Weapon's Elite.

I thought combining Serpent's Quickness with Vengeful Weapon / Weapon of Remedy would make them uber-spammable. Its really strange with how Remedy acts towards the player's mindset. Normally, a healer would have less trouble if their targets who are under pressure started to kite, because kiting=less damage taken. Remedy weapon however, works better on targets who are stationary, because that way they have a higher change at getting hit, triggering remedy weapon. There have been many times that I couldnt get remedy weapon to trigger because someone kept kiting, so its an easy 5 energy gone to waste.

Nightmare weapon was simply overpowered during the weekend. I think I ran this build:

[skill=text]Nightmare Weapon[/skill]
[skill=text]"You're All Alone!"[/skill]
[skill=text]Flurry[/skill]
[skill=text]Wielder's Boon[/skill]
[skill=text]Soldier's Defense[/skill]
[skill=text]Wielder's Strike[/skill]
[skill=text]"Watch Yourself!"[/skill]
[skill=text]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

I pretty much used a spear for this, since the damage from my weapon didn't matter. 250 life-stealing damage every 10 seconds, with IAS, block, added armour, and snares. I could solo alot of targets during that weekend^^.

I heard alot of BP Rangers used splinter weapon in... everywhere. And the damage was insane as well.