Is Lyssa actually Power of God² (squired)?

EDA= Melee shutdown. Makes for easy avatar killing, except melandru. Melandru can't be blinded. What? 5 sec of blind for my 3 earth would that really help?

should i keep my HP at 555 or add +2 earth and drop my health to 520? and i need an earth weapon it looks like i have to change my whole build according to what you said.

What? 5 sec of blind for my 3 earth would that really help? since EDA is triggered when ever you use an attack skill if you bring a scythe skill like Mystic Sweep or Eremite's Attack with a recharge of 4 seconds it will work with 5 seconds of blinding. And if you don't have an ebon scythe you can do what what Str0b0 suggested and bring Staggering Force or Dust Cloak to turn your attacks into earth damage and trigger EDA with every attack skill used the same way an ebon scythe would.

since EDA is triggered when ever you use an attack skill if you bring a scythe skill like Mystic Sweep or Eremite's Attack with a recharge of 4 seconds it will work with 5 seconds of blinding. And if you don't have an ebon scythe you can do what what Str0b0 suggested and bring Staggering Force or Dust Cloak to turn your attacks into earth damage and trigger EDA with every attack skill used the same way an ebon scythe would. sounds interesting, i will give that a try so its Dust Cloak and EDA is what i'm gonna with just for Lyssa.
I would take any advice on my current build up there. Thanx

EDA= Melee shutdown. Makes for easy avatar killing, except melandru. Melandru can't be blinded. You have stances that block and evade. You have whole party enchantments like aegis, ward against melee, etc.
Lyssa's extra damage is conditional on actually hitting the target. There are plenty of anti-melee tactics.
Hexes like Price of Failure and Spirit of Failure are an extra nasty combo to a Dervish since they rely on melee attacks and energy.
When thinking of counters look at the broader spectrum.

You have stances that block and evade. You have whole party enchantments like aegis, ward against melee, etc.
Lyssa's extra damage is conditional on actually hitting the target. There are plenty of anti-melee tactics.
Hexes like Price of Failure and Spirit of Failure are an extra nasty combo to a Dervish since they rely on melee attacks and energy.
When thinking of counters look at the broader spectrum.
A) Lyssa has none of those available so your point is moot in the context of this thread.

B) A dervish without wild blow makes baby jesus cry.

C) Any dervish worth their salt will bring Mystic Regen which makes Price of Failure and Spirit of Failure mere annoyances,nothing serious.

You have stances that block and evade. You have whole party enchantments like aegis, ward against melee, etc. even if Lyssa had all those skills it wouldn't matter anyway....EDA is triggered when you ACTIVATE an attack skill...not HIT with an attack skill...so even though you are not hitting you opponent for damage they would still be blinder than Stevie Wonder in the dark with a paper bag over his head.

on a side note I admit that I should use wild blow a lot more than I do currently do (by that I mean I should always have it on me). There have been a ton of times when it would have gotten me out of a pretty big jam.

even if Lyssa had all those skills it wouldn't matter anyway....EDA is triggered when you ACTIVATE an attack skill...not HIT with an attack skill...so even though you are not hitting you opponent for damage they would still be blinder than Stevie Wonder in the dark with a paper bag over his head.

on a side note I admit that I should use wild blow a lot more than I do currently do (by that I mean I should always have it on me). There have been a ton of times when it would have gotten me out of a pretty big jam. Actually you do have to hit to cause the blindness. You should carry wildblow though. Use sunspear rebirth for your res, it's a signet but how often do you honestly need to carry a hard res? That way you can go D/W with wildblow. It is not linked to any attribute, it is a guaranteed critical hit( and scythe's deal out huge critical hits) and it ends those annoying stances. Plus at only 5 energy with a 5 second recharge it is pretty damned spammable. I use wild blow + Victorious sweep on my dervish to great effect. Shiro pretty much requires Wildblow.

Actually you do have to hit to cause the blindness. You should carry wildblow though. Use sunspear rebirth for your res, it's a signet but how often do you honestly need to carry a hard res? That way you can go D/W with wildblow. It is not linked to any attribute, it is a guaranteed critical hit( and scythe's deal out huge critical hits) and it ends those annoying stances. Plus at only 5 energy with a 5 second recharge it is pretty damned spammable. I use wild blow + Victorious sweep on my dervish to great effect. Shiro pretty much requires Wildblow. really? i could have sworn it was working last night even when i had blurred vision on me......i must have landed a blow right before i got hexed.

A) Lyssa has none of those available so your point is moot in the context of this thread.

B) A dervish without wild blow makes baby jesus cry.

C) Any dervish worth their salt will bring Mystic Regen which makes Price of Failure and Spirit of Failure mere annoyances,nothing serious. I rather took the original question and that guys post on how to beat the Acolyte of Lyssa - not play against it in PvP. I know they used the term "avatar", though I've seen the question asked countless times mean "acolyte".

As such, "stances that block and evade", "whole party enchantments like aegis, ward against melee, etc." work quite well for mitigating damage from her. She doesn't have wild blow, while Baby Jesus may be crying because of that, that's the way the game is. Even if PvP there are builds that aren't /w and do not use Wild Blow (probably more so if the new recharge stays - though breaking stances and a crit is still nice).

"Hexes like Price of Failure and Spirit of Failure" *do* kill PvE AI dervishes quite fast. Acolyte of Lyssa is quite susceptible to them. Probably not my favorite two for anti-melee, but they do work (though if she is hitting you while you are bunched up, add in blind, I bet the damage can accumulate quickly).

I never saw Avatar of Lyssa as that effective in PvP, just plain old Dervish counters work on them. Nothing wrong with it, decent +damage/pressure especially against casters with long skill activation times, just that it doesn't seem to need a special counter. The Acolyte is especially hard because of double damage/half recharge of her skills - she can wipe a party quite quickly. I found it one of the harder avatars to cap, it was generally a surprise and took a skill change and a second try.

I rather took the original question and that guys post on how to beat the Acolyte of Lyssa - not play against it in PvP. I know they used the term "avatar", though I've seen the question asked countless times mean "acolyte".

As such, "stances that block and evade", "whole party enchantments like aegis, ward against melee, etc." work quite well for mitigating damage from her. She doesn't have wild blow, while Baby Jesus may be crying because of that, that's the way the game is. Even if PvP there are builds that aren't /w and do not use Wild Blow (probably more so if the new recharge stays - though breaking stances and a crit is still nice).

"Hexes like Price of Failure and Spirit of Failure" *do* kill PvE AI dervishes quite fast. Acolyte of Lyssa is quite susceptible to them. Probably not my favorite two for anti-melee, but they do work (though if she is hitting you while you are bunched up, add in blind, I bet the damage can accumulate quickly).

I never saw Avatar of Lyssa as that effective in PvP, just plain old Dervish counters work on them. Nothing wrong with it, decent +damage/pressure especially against casters with long skill activation times, just that it doesn't seem to need a special counter. The Acolyte is especially hard because of double damage/half recharge of her skills - she can wipe a party quite quickly. I found it one of the harder avatars to cap, it was generally a surprise and took a skill change and a second try. Thank for the info, i will try put it to use. Lets see how it turns out..

Thank for the info, i will try put it to use. Lets see how it turns out.. Eh? If those particular skills work thank NinjaKai - I was just pointing out that there were two different arguments. I figured you were asking how to deal with the Acolyte of Lyssa in PvE and you were getting advice on how to counter a Dervish using the Avatar of Lyssa in PvP. It is irrelevant that most PvP Dervishes bring Wild Blow and mystic regen out heals those hexes in killing the Acolyte as she doesn't have wild blow or mystic regen.

Personally, I whacked her with Spiteful Spirit/reckless haste along with backfire and empathy and some enchant stripping. I tanked her with my dervish and didn't activate any skills (other than 1/4-1/2 second cast self heals - low chance of her hitting with the insane damage) and let a prot monk mitigate the damage. If you are with a team of humans you could probably do better with a warrior stance tank - but I was capping it with my Dervish and hench/heroes, just make sure that your caster stay away from her and *you* take the damage. And do not activate skills, use you heroes/hench to keep you alive - you can fine control your heroes so use it to you advantage in cases like this.