Many people seem to think the Chapter 4 is going to be based in Charr territory, or maybe west of Maguuma, or east of Ascalon, or in Orr...
...but I think Chapter 4 will be connected to Cantha.
Why?
1) Canthan events have returned, including a *new* holiday.
2) The same team that created Factions is working on Chapter 4.
3) Elona already expanded Tyria, from a certain point of view.
4) They are not going to abandon a chapter; doing a second "Tyrian expansion" would leave Faction even emptier than it is now.
Cantha is nowhere near as "awful" as some people make it out to be; in fact, over time, I've come to really enjoy many parts of Cantha. Oh, I hate the mind-numbing city quests and initial 10k faction grind, and access ot the elite missions is poorly done -- but in terms of being *unique* and *visually interesting*, Cantha certainly has its good points. And I still think that mobs in Cantha are far more mentally challenging than the ones in Tyria or Elona.
I'd love to see an expansion that focused on the "tunnel" between Tyria and Cantha, the one used by the Dredge in their escape from the Stone Summit. A gigantic underground cave system...
So I think Chapter 4 will be based in Cantha. And I look forward to it.
Edit: I'm home with the flu... and boy, I can't type to save my life! Can a mod please fix the title typos?
Prediciton: Chapter 4 will be realted to CANTHA
ChaoticCoyote
devils wraths
the event is because its that regions new year and last year factions wernt out then.
i dunno they said they tied everyhtign in so i think this will be something no related like that
i dunno they said they tied everyhtign in so i think this will be something no related like that
Shmanka
Truly I would like more of a relation "to the west"
If anyone remembers the Original Guild Wars Trailer, the Charr was an invasion. I would seriously love to see how they came about and decided to hit the Ascalon Kingdom. The story behind the motivation is somewhat lacking in Tyria more then within Cantha IMO. Personally I wouldn't really want anything relating back to there. Cantha had a problem which originated in its continent, and it was settled in its own continent. Tyria has way too many loopholes in its own story of development and history to let loose like this.
If anyone remembers the Original Guild Wars Trailer, the Charr was an invasion. I would seriously love to see how they came about and decided to hit the Ascalon Kingdom. The story behind the motivation is somewhat lacking in Tyria more then within Cantha IMO. Personally I wouldn't really want anything relating back to there. Cantha had a problem which originated in its continent, and it was settled in its own continent. Tyria has way too many loopholes in its own story of development and history to let loose like this.
Str0b0
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Truly I would like more of a relation "to the west"
If anyone remembers the Original Guild Wars Trailer, the Charr was an invasion. I would seriously love to see how they came about and decided to hit the Ascalon Kingdom. The story behind the motivation is somewhat lacking in Tyria more then within Cantha IMO. Personally I wouldn't really want anything relating back to there. Cantha had a problem which originated in its continent, and it was settled in its own continent. Tyria has way too many loopholes in its own story of development and history to let loose like this. |
*LORE SPOILER*
In case you hadn't noticed with the big burning effigy outside of Nolani academy the Char worship fire. Specifically the Charr worship the Titans. The Charr were goaded into the invasion by the Lich's machinations in order to help spur the release of their gods into the world. The Lich in turn worked for Abbadon and yada yada yada.
atkafighter
^They have alot of Titan statues hanging around. Finally someone explains it 
Crimso
Wait but did'nt the charr worship the titans before the lich got the sceptre of orre(and summoning his titans) , wouldent that mean the charr would be following other titans? and still following the lich's titans when they came.
but on topic I'd actually like to see a chapter thats prophecies specific(getting rid of the charr threat maby acess too an after charr's end tyria) It wouldent mean much even though it would be considered time travelling but the same happens when a chararacter goes factions or elona-> lions arch.
but on topic I'd actually like to see a chapter thats prophecies specific(getting rid of the charr threat maby acess too an after charr's end tyria) It wouldent mean much even though it would be considered time travelling but the same happens when a chararacter goes factions or elona-> lions arch.
Str0b0
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Wait but did'nt the charr worship the titans before the lich got the sceptre of orre(and summoning his titans) , wouldent that mean the charr would be following other titans? and still following the lich's titans when they came.
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Nah they worshipped the same Titans. It's not like the Lich made the Titans he summoned he just let them out. The Titans are ancient creatures, old enough to serve Abaddon, and old enough to have been sealed away by the Mursaat, who themselves are a very old race. The charr worshipped those Titans and if someone said." Hey I'll help you spring your Gods from the clink if you can do a little something for me." Wouldn't you do it?
MSecorsky
Back to the point, if I may... Ch. 3 closed the book on the first "trilogy" of the GW world. I have a feeling that chapter four may not even be on the same planet... otherwise Nightfall would have affected them as well. New planet, new gods perhaps?
Travel of characters between realms would be an interesting tie in... but doable... magical wormhole or something...
Whatever we all predict, we'll all be wrong.
Travel of characters between realms would be an interesting tie in... but doable... magical wormhole or something...
Whatever we all predict, we'll all be wrong.
Dutch Masterr
oh the good old newbie days fighting charr outside ascalon city and piken square and the like....i would love to see charr reintroduced into the game. i always wanted to fight level 24 and 28 charr. only time you get to do that is during those few titan quests after hell's precipice (which i might add are my favorite quests/mini-missions out of all campaigns). i also would like to see chapter 4 have some relation to cantha. i loved factions, pve and pvp, but it was just too easy. thats my only problem with it. i liked exploring kaineng city and got to know all the routes and paths to everywhere like the back of my hand. i also like it because i take all my low level characters there and power-level them with all those 2000-4000 exp quests in kaineng center. (level10-20 in about a half hour). i liked the whole city feeling with peasants walking around aimlessly (kind of funny) and i liked the look of the jade sea and the whole luxon side. the kurzick side in my opinion seemed to not have as good of graphics and detail as the rest of the game and that could have been better. (btw, i am kurzick =x).
well, maybe they can try and connect all three games or at least tyria+cantha for the 4th campaign. i dont see guild wars going much farther after a 4th campaign.
well, maybe they can try and connect all three games or at least tyria+cantha for the 4th campaign. i dont see guild wars going much farther after a 4th campaign.
Wertic
Hey... wait a second... the Palawa Joko invasion came from the north down to the Desolation, right? And the Charr came to Ascalon... This might be a chapter that connects the Tyrian part and the canthan part?
Although a place with both Charr and some kind of undead freaks really creeps me off
Although a place with both Charr and some kind of undead freaks really creeps me off
ValaOfTheFens
No way. There's nothing that needs to be answered from Factions. The whole storyline seems like a lead-in to Nightfall's story. Chapter 4 would be better if it weren't focused so much on a country as on the war between the Gods.
Question:How do people know GW is a trilogy? Did ANet say it was? Chapter 4needs to be related or how are we supposed to use our old toons?
Question:How do people know GW is a trilogy? Did ANet say it was? Chapter 4needs to be related or how are we supposed to use our old toons?
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Originally Posted by Shmanka
Truly I would like more of a relation "to the west"
If anyone remembers the Original Guild Wars Trailer, the Charr was an invasion. I would seriously love to see how they came about and decided to hit the Ascalon Kingdom. The story behind the motivation is somewhat lacking in Tyria more then within Cantha IMO. Personally I wouldn't really want anything relating back to there. Cantha had a problem which originated in its continent, and it was settled in its own continent. Tyria has way too many loopholes in its own story of development and history to let loose like this. |
Lonesamurai
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Originally Posted by ValaOfTheFens
Question:How do people know GW is a trilogy? Did ANet say it was? Chapter 4needs to be related or how are we supposed to use our old toons?
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the full lore is actually very interesting read and fills in a lot of the plot holes from all three, here you go: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Storyline
achilles ankle
another cantha...god help us all
ok ok ah just as long as they get rid of the delivery boy quests.....give mhenlo a swift kick to the ____s, plz nothing asian, and make it like..really really really long, close to the amount of missions in prophecies. if they continue to only have like 12 missions at least call it an expansion. just give us something that cant be beat in 3 days and will keep our interest when we replay throught he campagn.
omg almost forgot my biggest point of all PLZ PLZ PLZ NO FACTION NO ALLIANCE FACTION!@!@!
ok ok ah just as long as they get rid of the delivery boy quests.....give mhenlo a swift kick to the ____s, plz nothing asian, and make it like..really really really long, close to the amount of missions in prophecies. if they continue to only have like 12 missions at least call it an expansion. just give us something that cant be beat in 3 days and will keep our interest when we replay throught he campagn.
omg almost forgot my biggest point of all PLZ PLZ PLZ NO FACTION NO ALLIANCE FACTION!@!@!
Lonesamurai
More Asian themes plaese
I need a real samurai obviously
I need a real samurai obviously
Mr_T_bot
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1) Canthan events have returned, including a *new* holiday.
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Mekkakat
i still and always will say i loved Factions. I played proph twice, once through i HATED it.. long boring, and 2nd time i was like.. this is worse than the first time.. but thats just me lol.. but i loved Factions.. i like the whole Kurz/Lux war ect blah blah lol... and ASIAN THEMES!!!! lol.. regardless, i feel as though Canthans need more support and storyline.. maybe a new god? maybe new asian professions.. like a samurai/zen kinda prof.. with Mage-tanking abilities.. but not gay like dervs, and not melee focused like a tank.. but like an ele with high AL. idk.. maybe a zombie warrior class or something.. each rank in "undead" raises your condition resistance ect.. lol idk.. WOO!
Mekkakat
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you sound angry and bash-ready like most people that play this game anymore, and while i dont really see your points at all, i do admit factions doesnt have the run-through that nf/proph has, but it keeps noobs out too. i like the art/areas in Cantha better than any other gws game, (except the mirror of lyss/kodash) and maybe you need more practice if Canthan baddies are too rough for you
Phenick
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i still and always will say i loved Factions. I played proph twice, once through i HATED it.. long boring, and 2nd time i was like.. this is worse than the first time.. but thats just me lol.. but i loved Factions.. i like the whole Kurz/Lux war ect blah blah lol... and ASIAN THEMES!!!! lol.. regardless, i feel as though Canthans need more support and storyline.. maybe a new god? maybe new asian professions.. like a samurai/zen kinda prof.. with Mage-tanking abilities.. but not gay like dervs, and not melee focused like a tank.. but like an ele with high AL. idk.. maybe a zombie warrior class or something.. each rank in "undead" raises your condition resistance ect.. lol idk.. WOO!
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Mr_T_bot
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Originally Posted by Mekkakat
you sound angry and bash-ready like most people that play this game anymore, and while i dont really see your points at all, i do admit factions doesnt have the run-through that nf/proph has, but it keeps noobs out too. i like the art/areas in Cantha better than any other gws game, (except the mirror of lyss/kodash) and maybe you need more practice if Canthan baddies are too rough for you
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All the reasons he put for Cantha being the next game don't make sense.
And if you paid attention to the gaming industry, pretty games with bad gameplay don't sell, despite foolish people here praising Cantha for having the best visuals but not the best gameplay or best designed areas.
Mekkakat
and what sort of poll are you using to statistically say the designs and elements are bad? i know tons of people who love Factions, just cause you, and most outspoken hotheads dont cause you dont like shiro and the fact that you cant cheaply run everywhere doesnt make a game bad. i love the skills, sins and rits, the elements and better AI and the i love the lore. so yeah, base your "facts" on something and maybe your opinions won't seem so much like bashing dude.
and yes, a vampire class would OWN... or how about an adventure or journeyman class... one where you have tons of skills based on "skill". like booby traps/throwing daggers or slingshots/bombs.. that'd be cool as heck! ^_^
and yes, a vampire class would OWN... or how about an adventure or journeyman class... one where you have tons of skills based on "skill". like booby traps/throwing daggers or slingshots/bombs.. that'd be cool as heck! ^_^
Phenick
factions is different from prophecies and its different from nightfall.... its still guild wars and its still good, just because SOME people agree that it is worse then the other two does not make it bad. One of the three HAS TO BE worse. If they were all the same quality then would it even be worth playing new chapters. They experiment and some things work and some things do not. It makes alot of sense that they would go back eventually and deal with more canthan related things in order to show that they will not just leave it out of the game from now on. IT IS JUST AS MUCH GUILD WARS AS ANYTHING ELSE... Thusly it's just as important and just as due for more connected content.
Sorry for a brick there, but people need to stop thinking their opinion applies to anything at all... Factions sold well.. I own it, I play it, I like it... Those are my opinions. So stop trying to influence people with negative opinions and let them form naturally if they are so apparent.. TO YOU...
Sorry for a brick there, but people need to stop thinking their opinion applies to anything at all... Factions sold well.. I own it, I play it, I like it... Those are my opinions. So stop trying to influence people with negative opinions and let them form naturally if they are so apparent.. TO YOU...
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And if you paid attention to the gaming industry, pretty games with bad gameplay don't sell
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Lonesamurai
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Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot
And if you paid attention to the gaming industry, pretty games with bad gameplay don't sell,
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Mr_T_bot
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Originally Posted by -Loki-
Since when? Graphics are the prime selling point in the games industry.
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Phenick
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Originally Posted by Mr_T_bot
Since ever? Apparently everyone around here lives in a reality warp causes by their undying loyalty to Guild Wars despite its faults.
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and it is not undying loyalty, all games have faults... either you get over them, or you dont, i feel getting over it seems to make me a happier gamer then not obviously makes you...
Mekkakat
i think your lack of understanding todays media and your own ego make you blind to how nice ALL THREE stories of gws are Mr T. Factions layout was good if not better (IMO) than nf, and way better than all of tyria. in fact, a computer with high graphic capabilities will show you the massive difference in quality from proph to factions. factions armors are clean cut, crisp, and shiny. proph looks dull, pixlated, and grainy. nf's nice, and yet another great game, but i find the desert an easy and redundant thing to graff. all 3 have strong/weak points... people bashing factions for the same thing over and over cause it makes them feel good like they know the game, doesnt mean anything in the real world fortunatly.
gilgameshx
I think Ch.4 might be a sea adventure, since there's a mentioning about the Luxons and the corsairs in the nf manual.
Feme Assassin
it is already confirmed that ch4 will be north of tyria so this thread is pointless
Mekkakat
o..k? where did you see that info? i've been looking for it and nothing i've read has said or led me to think that at all.. do you have a link?
Feme Assassin
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o..k? where did you see that info? i've been looking for it and nothing i've read has said or led me to think that at all.. do you have a link?
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anet said that in nf manual there is a tip about next gw
and the only thing that doesnt exist in other manuals and has to do something with the gw world is that
421 DR 843 CC 452 AE Cantha begins trading with tyria elona and the NORTHEN areas
and i dont think there is something north of the continet of cantha except tyria and elona
Mekkakat
so like do you think this will have something to do with the charr? like a charr profession lol.. jk.. but really.. maybe even Orr..or w/e that place where the catyclysm took place ... idk.. thats neat though, and DOES make sense. good find, thanks.
Feme Assassin
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so like do you think this will have something to do with the charr? like a charr profession lol.. jk.. but really.. maybe even Orr..or w/e that place where the catyclysm took place ... idk.. thats neat though, and DOES make sense. good find, thanks.
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orr is located west pf crystal desert the small islands you see(not the fire) and no i dont thinka bout a char prof but i think it will either be north of ascalon and will has to do with charr or north of magnumma and it will has to do with mursaat
thezed
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it is already confirmed that ch4 will be north of tyria so this thread is pointless
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I do like the idea of an underground chapter or area that explores that Dredge tunnel. Reminds me of the game "Mordor: Depths of Dejenol". I dont think we will see that though.
AnkurP992
well if they do make an expansion off of Cantha (HOPE ITS BETTER THEN FACTIONS) i think it would be cool to have the kurzs and the luxs have settlements on it and start fighting over it 
gilgameshx
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i dont have a link but we know that from this
anet said that in nf manual there is a tip about next gw and the only thing that doesnt exist in other manuals and has to do something with the gw world is that 421 DR 843 CC 452 AE Cantha begins trading with tyria elona and the NORTHEN areas and i dont think there is something north of the continet of cantha except tyria and elona |
Isn't Cantha located Southeast of Elona? So wouldn't the Northern areas actually be east of Elona instead? We do know that Cantha is south of Tyria, but how far south?
Feme Assassin
ok my bad ignore confirmed
it is said by players that it will be north and they found a tip in the manual that noone can be sure of if it is true
is this better?
it is said by players that it will be north and they found a tip in the manual that noone can be sure of if it is true
is this better?
Tide to Go
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i dont have a link but we know that from this
anet said that in nf manual there is a tip about next gw and the only thing that doesnt exist in other manuals and has to do something with the gw world is that 421 DR 843 CC 452 AE Cantha begins trading with tyria elona and the NORTHEN areas and i dont think there is something north of the continet of cantha except tyria and elona |
factions could pssibly be connected to 4 but I would think that all things are connected to tyria , unless there was a core continent that started it all???
TechnoSword
Considering anet would be tricky to go past the fan's expectations i'm guessing its going to be a completely different thing from what we all are speculating and as we go back to check the manual either there will be a side comment so unnoticable, or they were just playing with us. But thats just me
Guild Wars Guy
The next World idea would be possible. Maybe another world or realm if you think this is stupid you have lost something called imagination and you could just use portals as easy as abaddon and the margonites do