Loopholes??!? gah...

Mekkakat

Mekkakat

Whiner

Join Date: Aug 2006

ok.. so i've seen 3 level 1 characters with 15k armor, and almost 7 level 4 eles with searing flames/glowing gaze and 15k Vabbian armor ect...


i know HOW they did it.. but how could Guild Wars just LET people exploit the game so easily. people that dont have good guilds or cant get in one cant just have people run them ect, they have to play, and play hard, rarely ever learning the game well and getting called "noobs" a lot. my guild used to run members in Proph/NF too, but i put a stop to it cause i realized our members weren't learning how to play the game! what's your opinions?

perry_ratcliff

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Wrath of Honour

D/W

My word of advice is to join a good guild !

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

0.o???

I don't see the problem with it.

-.-

-.-

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

I don't really give it a second glance. I prefer to have beginners to play the game normally so they know the gist of the game. Those who should only get ran are those who are already beaten the game.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Okay, I just checked my calendar, and it doesn't say July '05, so what's the deal?

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

People are still complaining about this? I thought people stopped caring like... 18 months ago.

Mekkakat

Mekkakat

Whiner

Join Date: Aug 2006

ok? i had 80% of those people that i met not even know what a whisper, or PM was, and some didnt even know how to trade???? you think thats fair? and yeah, i care cause i like this game and dont want to see it end up like WoW. w/e, if you guys think its ok for noobs to get crap like that then fine. i just got wind of a level 7 with full Obsidian. thats just gay imo. i've never ascended earlier than level 18 and thats final. w/e.

Mr. Mellow

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

Murder Wind Avengers

N/Me

How is that a exploit?

People do have much gold to spend on their new characters. So, why not get the best armor as soon as you can.

People spend many straining hours to gather gold to have their favorite armor, so they deserve every piece of it.

I don't think its exploit.

Mekkakat

Mekkakat

Whiner

Join Date: Aug 2006

these are people being GIVEN the gold by guild members.. dont you see the flaws in that?!? wtf...

rohara

rohara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Rt/

not really your place to judge others' way of playing the game.

i'll bet most of those people are friends of long-time players and aren't really interested in doing all the noobie stuff, and just want to play with their friends. others are long time players that cba to do noobie stuff over and just want to get their new char up to speed asap. nothing wrong with that, imo.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mekkakat
these are people being GIVEN the gold by guild members.. dont you see the flaws in that?!? wtf...
Note to self: having friends is exploiting life.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Since when does level even matter in GW? I'm at a loss, here.

Seriously, it takes far, far less time levelling to 20 than it does earning the money to buy 15k/Obsidian armor. So, either they were already rich and funding lowbie characters (which doesn't matter because they are already skilled enough), they got a good guild and they funded their armor at a low level (which doesn't matter because that guild can help them become better skilled), or they purchased their gold online (which doesn't matter because they're worthless anyway and will hopefully be banned soon).

Either way, it doesn't matter, not your business, so why fuss?

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mekkakat
these are people being GIVEN the gold by guild members.. dont you see the flaws in that?!? wtf...
No, I've done it, I've taken a brand new character straight to get max armour and then ran through the game using that character... The game doesn't have the replay value to keep upwards of 5 characters going...

I tell new members in my guild not to do it first time, but I help them second time out and actively help them, especially if they want that character pvp ready quickly

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
Since when does level even matter in GW? I'm at a loss, here.
It doesn't, you know that, i know that, but he doesn't... lets let him find out himself

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
Note to self: having friends is exploiting life.
shame it doesn't work like that in real life...

Mekkakat

Mekkakat

Whiner

Join Date: Aug 2006

w/e let noobs learn the hard way. i dont dictace how to play the game, if you all read the op, all i said was i disagree.. at least get your facts straight. closed post.

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mekkakat
w/e let noobs learn the hard way. i dont dictace how to play the game, if you all read the op, all i said was i disagree..
Actually, you said...
Quote:
what's your opinions?
Which strongly suggests that you actually want other people's opinions. And other people's opinions are... they don't care.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
Note to self: having friends is exploiting life.
Reported; I hope you get banned from real life.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mekkakat
w/e let noobs learn the hard way. i dont dictace how to play the game, if you all read the op, all i said was i disagree.. at least get your facts straight. closed post.
Hold on, I agreed with you... the first time through the game, however, if they are doing this, they obviously know the game well enough to know to get a runner and get the armour and weapons, so i doubt they are all n00b's as you say they are anyway

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

Who cares? What does it matter what others are doing? As long as it doesnt affect you in a negative way (i.e. imbalanced in PVP) then what does it matter? This is along the lines of people complaining that others can get stuff more easily (i.e. complainers of inscriptions)

If these people are being handed everything and being run everywhere without lifting a finger, they are just screwing themselves out of fun and experience. But why should you worry so much about it?

Mekkakat

Mekkakat

Whiner

Join Date: Aug 2006

im not retarded, i've been playing for years and when i roll a new char (when i did) i played the games cause i liked them, these people have NEVER played, dont know the mechanics, and dont even know what their skills are called. im closing this post

Mekkakat

Mekkakat

Whiner

Join Date: Aug 2006

and for the millionth time, all i said was what are your views on this way of exploiting the game, not how UPSET i was about this. omg i think you're all idiots honestly. at least read the op before posting. i dont care if someone gets screwed cause they bum rushed the game, i DO think its unfair to hard working players that cant get shit like maxed al armor cause guild discrimination or lack of exp that isnt their fault. shut up and stop posting, im tired of hearing you all bash me for having sympathy for hard working low levels. w/e

rohara

rohara

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Rt/

wow just a tip, dude...don't ask for people's opinions if you can't handle a difference in opinion.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Yeah, I'm complaining.

I'm still pissed off you can't do that in Cantha. Like anyone wants to actually play through the goddamn sewer-city.

OP: If someone has the money to pay for a run and buy Vabbian armor, he already knows how to play the game, probably better than you. Wake up.

zanny

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2007

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mekkakat
if you guys think its ok for noobs to get crap like that then fine. i just got wind of a level 7 with full Obsidian. thats just gay imo. i've never ascended earlier than level 18 and thats final..
ok. heres a question for you,
if theese people are such "noobs" than how could they have enough money to get such expensive armor?

and for thoose of you who will eagerly jump on about them just buying the gold on some .com site. i, just me personally >_>, dont just pay my IRL money for some game ive just bought. also if they just got the game they wouldnt know where to get ran to, and the average priceing on how much it is to get ran there.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mekkakat
and for the millionth time, all i said was what are your views on this way of exploiting the game, not how UPSET i was about this. omg i think you're all idiots honestly. at least read the op before posting. i dont care if someone gets screwed cause they bum rushed the game, i DO think its unfair to hard working players that cant get shit like maxed al armor cause guild discrimination or lack of exp that isnt their fault. shut up and stop posting, im tired of hearing you all bash me for having sympathy for hard working low levels. w/e
mekkakat, i actually agree with you, my point was that its very unlikely that most of these are new players

yes its unfair to hard working players, as I used to be one myself, but theres nothing in Guild Wars to work hard for... I learned that after doing PvP, the game is balanced for lvl 20 which isn't hard to get, its balanced by all weapons of one type having base highest damage which can't be modified... it is purely for looks

Like you it used to gall me that kids didn't play the game "properly", but then I realised that to them, they are playing it "properly" and if they were educated, they would probably leave Guild Wars for WoW or one of the other grinding games out there

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alleji
Yeah, I'm complaining.

I'm still pissed off you can't do that in Cantha. Like anyone wants to actually play through the goddamn sewer-city.

OP: If someone has the money to pay for a run and buy Vabbian armor, he already knows how to play the game, probably better than you. Wake up.
I do, its an easy 10k gold and 10k experience and great for lvling heroes

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

Closed for flaming.