February TalkingToNoobs Contest

Vindexus

Vindexus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

www.talkingtonoobs.com

Final Dynasty

Hello Internet,

In an effort to increase the amount of TalkingToNoobs (TTNs) being submitted to TalkingToNoobs.com, we will be holding a contest that ends February 23rd. The TTN with the highest rating by that date will win 50,000 Guild Wars gold and a custom name style on the site, for display in Comments, Private Messages and TTNs.

For full rules see www.talkingtonoobs.com/contest.php

So get out there and take screenshots of people saying or doing really dumb things!

Admin Edit: I'll allow this post as an advertisement for your contest but the community cannot post their screenshots on this site. We do not allow the posting of screenshots of in-game characters names without their permission.

JC68

JC68

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Slovakia

DVD Forums [DVDF]

W/

hehe nice contest

Zedd Kun

Zedd Kun

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Bretheren Of Chaos [Dark]

Rt/

^ Lol that one has to be old

Chewbacca Defense

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

667 Neighbour of the Beast

Ttgr

lmao, this site is awesome. Thanks dude!

Myria

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ah yes, now here's a contest that should really raise the level of discourse in GW. It's a good thing screenshots can't be Photoshopped and sentences can't be shown out of context. Then again, I'm sure no one would go out of their way to try and make someone they didn't like look bad, anyway, so no reason to worry about that. Besides, they're all 'noobs', a term used only by the sophisticated and discerning, so it's all good.

But, just as an aside, isn't it against the rules of this site to post screencaps with names without people's expressed permission?

Bastian

Bastian

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/A

Thanks for cheering up my rather boring Friday at work. That is the funniest stuff I have seen in a while. I will definitely be signing up to add my own additions. RA here I come!

kc2000ss

kc2000ss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

3rd rock from sun out of eight?

W/N

Where can I purchase this build? It looks good

King Kong

King Kong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

cool a new ranger hero build

Eonwe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

New Jersey

Idiot Savants

Another fantastic idea Vindexus! Well done!

Rodhin Kinning

Rodhin Kinning

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arkansas

Survivors Of RhyDin [SoR]

W/Mo

Hmm makes me wonder how many of you learned about this game or any other game. Do none of you think to teach these new gammers how to play better or is it just easier to bash them and call them noobs?

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

Vin is cool.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodhin Kinning
Hmm makes me wonder how many of you learned about this game or any other game. Do none of you think to teach these new gammers how to play better or is it just easier to bash them and call them noobs?
Have you tried talking to some of them? You'll probably also be bashing them within five minutes.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodhin Kinning
Hmm makes me wonder how many of you learned about this game or any other game. Do none of you think to teach these new gammers how to play better or is it just easier to bash them and call them noobs?
Vin said it best on TGH - Noobs will get 2 things from me. Help or flames. It just depends on their attitude.

Rodhin Kinning

Rodhin Kinning

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arkansas

Survivors Of RhyDin [SoR]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by tehlemming
Vin is cool.

Have you tried talking to some of them? You'll probably also be bashing them within five minutes.
In my 14 months of playing I have helped many players learn more of this game or if I didnt feel like teaching them myself I then just pointed the way to here or wiki. Many of you forget that you to was a noob at this game and someone along the line helped you in the past.

I wonder how many people thought the many things that we take for granted was noobish and foolish untill they where proved wrong. But hey bash away because it always comes full circle in the end.

Burst Cancel

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

Are you carebears seriously that naive? Take a look at those screenshots again - most of those people don't want help, and will insult you for trying. Attempting to educate anyone in GW isn't just a waste of time, it's masochistic. The only thing you're going to get for your trouble is verbal abuse, so why would you even bother?

Rodhin Kinning

Rodhin Kinning

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arkansas

Survivors Of RhyDin [SoR]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burst Cancel
Are you carebears seriously that naive? Take a look at those screenshots again - most of those people don't want help, and will insult you for trying. Attempting to educate anyone in GW isn't just a waste of time, it's masochistic. The only thing you're going to get for your trouble is verbal abuse, so why would you even bother?
Did you ever stop to think why they react the way they do? It would be because all they ever get is verbal abuse from leetist. If they refuse to learn thats one thing but to just asume they are beyond help is totaly different. Maturity is what brings a community together and I see less and less of that these days. *sighs*

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burst Cancel
Are you carebears seriously that naive? Take a look at those screenshots again - most of those people don't want help, and will insult you for trying. Attempting to educate anyone in GW isn't just a waste of time, it's masochistic. The only thing you're going to get for your trouble is verbal abuse, so why would you even bother?
Obviously its not as I've built an entire Guild around doing it...

And yes, that happens, but maybe 1 in 5 people are like that, i know its alot still, but hell, its worth it to find those 4 that actually want to learn the game and play it properly...

Damnit, even though there are so many people like that though, i still only have one person on my ignore list, after nearly 2 and a half years, i think thats pretty good

Burst Cancel

Burst Cancel

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

Domain of Broken Game Mechanics

You should revise your "1 in 5" statistic, Lonesamurai. Out of those 5 people, 4 of them will either cuss you out for trying to help them or insist that Mending is the best skill in the game, and the remaining one will be afk.

Seriously, GW players aren't worth the effort. Anyone who wanted to learn would have done so already, either by getting on a forum like this and reading/asking questions, or by watching observer mode. I used to be a nice person in-game, but that stopped a long time ago after I realized that nearly everyone I met was an asshole.

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burst Cancel
You should revise your "1 in 5" statistic, Lonesamurai. Out of those 5 people, 4 of them will either cuss you out for trying to help them or insist that Mending is the best skill in the game, and the remaining one will be afk.

Seriously, GW players aren't worth the effort. Anyone who wanted to learn would have done so already, either by getting on a forum like this and reading/asking questions, or by watching observer mode. I used to be a nice person in-game, but that stopped a long time ago after I realized that nearly everyone I met was an asshole.
Sorry but i disagree and My batting record with my guild proves my point

lemming

lemming

The Hotshot

Join Date: May 2006

Honolulu

International District [id???]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodhin Kinning
In my 14 months of playing I have helped many players learn more of this game or if I didnt feel like teaching them myself I then just pointed the way to here or wiki. Many of you forget that you to was a noob at this game and someone along the line helped you in the past.
I don't know about your track record with "teaching them," but significantly more often than not, it ends up something like this.

http://www.talkingtonoobs.com/ttn.php?id=9

Albeit, it seems like noobs in pve areas are more receptive to teaching.

icedwhitemocha

icedwhitemocha

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2006

Ancestral/Grenz

[CneX]

W/

There's nothing wrong with this contest, I think it's hilarious... Lonesamurai, you've had good experiences with talking to ummm... newbs. Burst has had mostly bad ones (I'm in this camp as well). There's no reason either of you are wrong.

I used to try to give lengthy help and advice to people I met in the gameworld about their builds or their playstyles, but I gave up long ago out of frustration. The extent of my advice these days is "get more damage" to a w/mo, or "healing breeze is a bad skill, check some forums to see why", etc. This contest is a celebration of people who are new to the game and say things that experienced players get a kick out of. Nothing wrong with that, when I was new I had some ideas and said some things I'm still laughing about to this day.

Grimm

Grimm

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

IMO, there is a difference between a "noob" and a "newbie".

Newbies are new at the game and are willing to learn and get better. Everyone is a newbie at some point.

Noobs may be new, but they think they're experts and are not willing to learn from others. They're rude and usually insult people who don't recognize their percieved "leetness". Some people can be noobs even after playing a game for a while. It's more a state of mind than a a level of experience.

If you read the TTN site, I think you'll find that most are the latter, and I have no problem making fun of the later.

Vindexus

Vindexus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

www.talkingtonoobs.com

Final Dynasty

The site is not meant to insult noobs and degrade them; think of it more as friendly jibing amongst comrades. If you don't take it too seriously (some of you are) then it's just some good laughs and some awesome Ajax programming (go me).

Also, I've helped plenty of people in Guild Wars, I like to think I've earned being able to make fun of some of them :P.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Wiki
A player that's new will say "I'm a newbie" to imply he/she is new at the game or the area they are in. A veteran might say: "Ok, any newbies here?" to mean, any players who have never before done the task the party is about to do. newb
Ignorant, unaware or clueless:
A player who carelessly aggros a group when the party was not ready or walks into a set of traps and kills himself would cause messages of "Are you a noob?!!!" from other party members. noob
Obnoxious, uncooperative or does not listen:
Many new players try to cover up their ignorance (because of the little tolerance shown to ignorance as seen above) by pretending to know what they are doing and taking brash actions while refusing to heed advice/warnings from veterans. When such players bring about harm to the party they will often stir such responses as "You're a @#%#ing noob!!"
noob

It is important to remember that there is a difference between newbie and "n00b" because everyone at one point was a newbie, but not necessarily a n00b
Learn the difference people.

Vindexus

Vindexus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2005

www.talkingtonoobs.com

Final Dynasty

I've changed the rules. After Feb 23rd, any TTNs submitted will not be apart of the contest. The winner will be decided a week later on March 2nd.

www.talkingtonoobs.com/contest.php

Bowman Artemis

Bowman Artemis

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Gold Coast, Australia.

Overclockers Australia [OCAU]

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Loki-
Vin said it best on TGH - Noobs will get 2 things from me. Help or flames. It just depends on their attitude.
I beg do differ. Noobs will always get ridicule and abuse from me. Newbs on the other hand will get hints, tips and help with the game.

Here's a fun way of showing the difference!

Rodhin Kinning

Rodhin Kinning

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2007

Arkansas

Survivors Of RhyDin [SoR]

W/Mo

Hmm thanks for the clearification but to be honest this is the first time I've seen anyone say there is a difference between the two so I'm sorry if I missunderstood the content of this contest.