Yangansin
Kiba of hidden leaf
Wasn't it called a gank so it really doesnt need a spike. Plus this build can get you in and out if you dont kill the target.
SotiCoto
I'm not even sure what "gank" means precisely.... but the build looks good, from my PvE perspective.
Admittedly, I'll usually opt for Assassin's Promise rather than Mobius Strike since I'm typically expecting to kill the enemy in one combo and there aren't any "Lotus" dual-attack skills... but this option would negate the need to point-dump into Deadly Arts.
How well does it work on bosses?
I'm sure wondering if this would be a viable means of taking down Glint in Dragon's Lair? I still don't have that bonus... (though I'm considering asking people to play Spinal Shivers + Battery necros, then running in with Icy Daggers). Beguiling Haze might help too if Glint can be Dazed. ^_^
Admittedly, I'll usually opt for Assassin's Promise rather than Mobius Strike since I'm typically expecting to kill the enemy in one combo and there aren't any "Lotus" dual-attack skills... but this option would negate the need to point-dump into Deadly Arts.
How well does it work on bosses?
I'm sure wondering if this would be a viable means of taking down Glint in Dragon's Lair? I still don't have that bonus... (though I'm considering asking people to play Spinal Shivers + Battery necros, then running in with Icy Daggers). Beguiling Haze might help too if Glint can be Dazed. ^_^
Yanman.be
I don't think Glint will like that. She has some skills that own melee users.
Also, by ganking, I meant ganking NPC's in an enemy guild hall. But there are better builds out there for that.
Also, by ganking, I meant ganking NPC's in an enemy guild hall. But there are better builds out there for that.
clawofcrimson
"Gank" comes from the phrase "gang kill" and refers to the practice of multiple players ganging up to kill a single player or NPC. For example, in GvG players sometimes try to gank the opposing side's Guild Lord in an attempt to achieve a fast victory
-from wiki
-from wiki
SotiCoto
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Originally Posted by Yanman.be
I don't think Glint will like that. She has some skills that own melee users.
Trust me.... I know. I have witnessed them first-hand... despite having the old Disrupting > Fox Fangs > Exhausting type combo to attack her with. I was told she needed to be interrupted, so interrupt her I did. Apparently I wasn't good enough though. She needs the kind of constant interruption offered only by being Dazed or snagged with Spinal Shivers.
Maybe next time I'll just take Spoil Victor with me and attack with my Evil Eye Staff (+5 Energy, +5 Armour) from a distance.... ¬_¬
Maybe next time I'll just take Spoil Victor with me and attack with my Evil Eye Staff (+5 Energy, +5 Armour) from a distance.... ¬_¬
Yanman.be
During the 8v8 weekend I've been running 4 sins, 3 monks and a weapon rit.
3 sp/boa and my yangansin(Some variations: Impale, Shields Up!(bye bye Rspike), Disrupting Dagger, Dash, Pious Haste,Boa. Whatever floats your boat )
Combined with Splinter Weapon, I could quite easily create some serious havoc on 3 or more people. Enough for the monks to panic, and my other sin buddies to wreak havoc in the chaos. We were also unspikeable by a bonder, and vital weapons from the rit. FTW.
3 sp/boa and my yangansin(Some variations: Impale, Shields Up!(bye bye Rspike), Disrupting Dagger, Dash, Pious Haste,Boa. Whatever floats your boat )
Combined with Splinter Weapon, I could quite easily create some serious havoc on 3 or more people. Enough for the monks to panic, and my other sin buddies to wreak havoc in the chaos. We were also unspikeable by a bonder, and vital weapons from the rit. FTW.
SotiCoto
Doesn't Splinter Weapon only work for one attack though?
Shadowfox1125
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Originally Posted by Yanman.be
He's more like Naruto. He kills people, so do I.
Bad analogy, or are you serious? 
Yanman.be
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
Doesn't Splinter Weapon only work for one attack though?
Nope. at 14 channling, you get 4 attacks.
Nope. at 14 channling, you get 4 attacks.
Beat_Go_Stick
Nice build.....now if only you could work on your "build naming" skills 
Yanman.be
Shhhhh...
At least this build now netted me some fame
At least this build now netted me some fame
SotiCoto
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Originally Posted by Yanman.be
Nope. at 14 channling, you get 4 attacks.
Still not quite the same overall effect as Mark of Pain then (since that lasts quite a bit longer, generally) .... but I see your point. Both of 'em together along with Death Blossom could produce quite a bit of nastiness in a hoarde.
Yanman.be
Yeah but the great thing about Splinter Weapon is that it stays for like a minute. You can pre-buff all sins, then spike, and have a huge aoe effect. It only has 5 seconds rc too. So it's still quite superior.
Beat_Go_Stick
Do you find yourself getting screwed over by Shadow Walk? I've been finding myself a little too helpless for 30 seconds....and I think someone played a practical joke on me by painting my suit pastel green or something. I'm being targetted like mad.
Finding that I can't even use that skill since I never know when I'll need to use Feigned.
Finding that I can't even use that skill since I never know when I'll need to use Feigned.
Yanman.be
Shadow walk->combo->deadly paradox->feigned?
Spirit_Axery
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Originally Posted by Beat_Go_Stick
Do you find yourself getting screwed over by Shadow Walk?
Nope, it's my favourite shadow step. As Yan says, deadly paradox FN.
@OP: I tried it in an AB, and although I've gone back to my own I've come here to give you kudos for the build, which works well indeed but doesn't suit me. Sadly, I must also inform you that those points of niftiness were deducted on account of the name and earlier Naruto reference, leaving you back where you started!
~Mitsuki Hiyono~
@OP: I tried it in an AB, and although I've gone back to my own I've come here to give you kudos for the build, which works well indeed but doesn't suit me. Sadly, I must also inform you that those points of niftiness were deducted on account of the name and earlier Naruto reference, leaving you back where you started!
~Mitsuki Hiyono~
I I I Inferno I I I
hmmm any1 ever heard of shadowsteps???
If ur in ha or ab when ur in ur mob u run in with the tanks and when u are "the target" u run in the back lines when all ur eles with sf kill the tank.
And lately i realised: natural born tanks are sceptical of assassins coz of the melee competition, the other day a guy tht i met in ha wanted 2 show me how much assassins suck. glads defence and riposites as usual...
i tried something new unseen fury +blinding powder= a dead tank
If ur in ha or ab when ur in ur mob u run in with the tanks and when u are "the target" u run in the back lines when all ur eles with sf kill the tank.
And lately i realised: natural born tanks are sceptical of assassins coz of the melee competition, the other day a guy tht i met in ha wanted 2 show me how much assassins suck. glads defence and riposites as usual...
i tried something new
unseen fury +blinding powder= a dead tank
SotiCoto
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Originally Posted by I I I Inferno I I I
hmmm any1 ever heard of shadowsteps???
If ur in ha or ab when ur in ur mob u run in with the tanks and when u are "the target" u run in the back lines when all ur eles with sf kill the tank.
And lately i realised: natural born tanks are sceptical of assassins coz of the melee competition, the other day a guy tht i met in ha wanted 2 show me how much assassins suck. glads defence and riposites as usual...
i tried something new unseen fury +blinding powder= a dead tank
Are you totally incapable of typing in English or what? o_0;
I have barely a clue what you're saying...
If ur in ha or ab when ur in ur mob u run in with the tanks and when u are "the target" u run in the back lines when all ur eles with sf kill the tank.
And lately i realised: natural born tanks are sceptical of assassins coz of the melee competition, the other day a guy tht i met in ha wanted 2 show me how much assassins suck. glads defence and riposites as usual...
i tried something new
unseen fury +blinding powder= a dead tank
Are you totally incapable of typing in English or what? o_0;I have barely a clue what you're saying...
Yanman.be
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Originally Posted by Spirit_Axery
Sadly, I must also inform you that those points of niftiness were deducted on account of the name and earlier Naruto reference, leaving you back where you started!
~Mitsuki Hiyono~
I have no clue who Naruto is whatsoever. Some anime char. I've heard some people talking about Naturo= cool and "my sin looks like naruto". So I figured I'd say that to defend myself.
~Mitsuki Hiyono~
I have no clue who Naruto is whatsoever. Some anime char. I've heard some people talking about Naturo= cool and "my sin looks like naruto". So I figured I'd say that to defend myself.
SotiCoto
Naruto is one of those overly popular anime series with a large idiot fanbase.
The main theme of the series is ninjas..... various sorts of ninjas..... HENCE the large idiot fanbase.
See... when I think of ninjas.... I think of Hanzo from the Samurai Shodown games. Definitely MUCH cooler.
... Wheee... Hanzo Sprite! ^_^
[Excuse me.]
The main theme of the series is ninjas..... various sorts of ninjas..... HENCE the large idiot fanbase.
See... when I think of ninjas.... I think of Hanzo from the Samurai Shodown games. Definitely MUCH cooler.
... Wheee... Hanzo Sprite! ^_^
[Excuse me.]
Retribution X
Nice build. I'll try it when I cap mobius.
Personally, I'd throw Impale in after exhuasting, nice little spike...
Personally, I'd throw Impale in after exhuasting, nice little spike...
Beat_Go_Stick
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Originally Posted by Yanman.be
Shadow walk->combo->deadly paradox->feigned?
<- Ok, I'm an idiot
I won't bother explaining what I did and just leave it at that *laugh*
I won't bother explaining what I did and just leave it at that *laugh*
Yanman.be
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Originally Posted by Retribution X
Nice build. I'll try it when I cap mobius.
Personally, I'd throw Impale in after exhuasting, nice little spike... That's what I'd do too if I had space. I did use it for HA. Nice dps+ pressure.
Personally, I'd throw Impale in after exhuasting, nice little spike... That's what I'd do too if I had space. I did use it for HA. Nice dps+ pressure.
crosswound
twanger sin owns yangasin.
clawofcrimson
twanger??? whats with you people and your weird names.... just post the build...
Retribution X
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Originally Posted by Yanman.be
That's what I'd do too if I had space. I did use it for HA. Nice dps+ pressure.
Looking at the build, the ONLY thing I would change and pretty much keep the same effect would be swap out deadly paradox for dash.
That makes it nice if there's people where you're teleporting to.
That makes it nice if there's people where you're teleporting to.
Yanman.be
Yeah but you need Feigned on a shorter recharge to ensure you staying alive...
Retribution X
Hmm, true. The reason I'd take dash though is so I could quick get back to take out some annoying sin after I just ganked their monk, before their sin kills my monk.
As deadly paradox disables attack skill for 10 seconds. Dash does not.
Deadly is more Defensive, Dash is more offensive.
As deadly paradox disables attack skill for 10 seconds. Dash does not.
Deadly is more Defensive, Dash is more offensive.
SotiCoto
Oddly enough.... I don't recall many AI parties that have a particular Assassin for jumping in and attacking the player team's monk. Isn't that more of a PvP issue?
Retribution X
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Originally Posted by SotiCoto
Quote: Originally Posted by Yanman.be Now, this setup is what I used in AB.
Last I checked, AB is PvP...
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Originally Posted by Yanman.be
That's what I'd do too if I had space. I did use it for HA. Nice dps+ pressure.
Last I checked, HA was PvP... (Except when you could take unlimited hero's/hench...)
Unless you are against/with such a mentally retarded team that the henchmen from prophecies have a higher IQ, I'd say that they'll be going for monks... (In PvP anyway, unless the monk is a hammer monk like I saw today. what insanity...)
Yanman.be
Well...
Our 4sin HA build consists of 3 sp/boa's, a death blossom moebius, a weapon rit, and 3 monks. The db-ms + weapon rit make huge pressure, and try to get balled up groups. In the meanwhile, SP/boa's will pick off targets one by one and killing them. It's a great combo: good spike, with a decent pressure. Please note I didn't take shadowsteps in HA. Just Dash. Spirit_Axery
I think what SotiCoto was getting at, because he said it to me only yesterday, is that this is the assassin part of "the campfire", which is apparently PvE oriented; to which the response of most assassin players must be:
Originally Posted by Retribution X
If you're going to have a forum for PvE assassins only, it's going to be a really small forum without much conversation. Assassins are a PvP class primarily, and if you've got a dedicated assassin forum, that's what most of the conversation is going to be about. My sincere apologies if I'm wrong, I'm just trying to clear that up. Quote: unless the monk is a hammer monk like I saw today. what insanity...
I'm not crazy! He's seen them too!
On Topic: Couldn't stop myself coming back to this build just to try a few variations. Understand some people wanting to change paradox for dash. I've tried dash and restful breeze, which I stuck with for as long as I was playing this assassin. (Most of last night in AB) ~Mitsuki Hiyono~ PS: My build has disrupting dagger, but it's not a matter of course in my combo and I'm often too late in interrupting those damned cookie cutters (shadow prison burst). I love exhausting assault. That is all.
SotiCoto
On the contrary Axery.... I was slightly more at fault here than that. I genuinely thought he was intending to use it in PvE from the statement "I'll try it when I cap mobius."... since I use special builds for skill-capping myself.
Its only after that I realised that the skill in question was the one needed for the build, and hence he meant he'd use it AFTER capping the skill. *Nods* Anyhow... At least as regards the matter of the forum... I believe an Assassin build thread at the very least (if not board) should be in the PvP section... along with all else. The notion of keeping all builds in the PvE section when a vast number of them are PvP exclusive is illogical.... even if this place would become a little emptier without the PvP stuff. If nothing else maybe the board should be moved over to the PvP section if thats its primary focus..... though chances are I would then stop using it altogether (and its not as if anyone would miss me anyway, as my highly defensive attitude is more than a little... abrasive).
lightblade
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Originally Posted by Yanman.be
He's more like Naruto. He kills people, so do I.
Naruto need...
- Heart of Shadow: like Shadow Clone - Holy Strike: like Rasengon - Dancing Daggers: like Kanais Now...make something nice out of these 3 skills.
ShadowsRequiem
I really like using assassult enchantments
I used to use it instead of shadow prisons when I would ab and to Aspenwood its priceless killing those e/ds and the bondered npcs |
