What is the best avatar for abing?
Zeon
I think Grenth, Balthazar, or Melandru.
Shuuda
Melandru or Balthazar would be best.
BUT!!!! I recommend you go for a none avatar elite for AB. AB matches are just too long for an avatar be as useful as they are in RA/TA/HA
BUT!!!! I recommend you go for a none avatar elite for AB. AB matches are just too long for an avatar be as useful as they are in RA/TA/HA
Llint
Also you'd probably die before getting the full use out of an avatar.
CagedinSanity
I don't die very often unless I get pounded by 3+ people. wierd, the NPC's at shrines can often-times kill me more often and easily than actual players. Wierd.
Anyway, I still with Lyssa 90% of my AB's. If not Lyssa, then Melandru. Definately Melandru. Dwayna also wouldn't be a bad choice, but only if it's currently your only choice. Otherwise,
Lyssa or Melandru.
Grenth would be more useful in Scrimmages and GvG's. Many 55 monks and 105 Derv's I've slaughtered with Grenth ^_^
Anyway, I still with Lyssa 90% of my AB's. If not Lyssa, then Melandru. Definately Melandru. Dwayna also wouldn't be a bad choice, but only if it's currently your only choice. Otherwise,
Lyssa or Melandru.
Grenth would be more useful in Scrimmages and GvG's. Many 55 monks and 105 Derv's I've slaughtered with Grenth ^_^
Coloneh
how about Vow of strength or ebon dust aura? my favorite avvys.
Solus_the_Deadly
Lyssa would be a good option to deal with pesty Minion Masters.
sabretalon
"how about Vow of strength or ebon dust aura? my favorite avvys." ??? these were not avatars the last time I looked!
I use Dwayna a lot in my build, especially with my enchants an my enchant strip, which soon fills my energy and health. Pain in the butt if you come across someone who does a lot of interupts though.
I use Dwayna a lot in my build, especially with my enchants an my enchant strip, which soon fills my energy and health. Pain in the butt if you come across someone who does a lot of interupts though.
CagedinSanity
Sicne my dervish isn't busy casting much of anything (i put up most of my enchantments before i run into a battle) I don't have much problems with interrupts.
Coloneh
I know EDA and VoS aren't avatars, im saing that avatars are stupid apart form greneth HA/GvG builds.
Skuld
There isn't any morale boosts, so none.
CagedinSanity
If you guys don't like avatars, theres another thread to put those comments in.
He's asking which avatar is best suited for AB, so answer the question instead of going "they suck so none."
He's asking which avatar is best suited for AB, so answer the question instead of going "they suck so none."
Teh [prefession]-zorz
Melandru i thought was always good because all of the rangers just condition spam...
Ember010
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Originally Posted by CagedinSanity
If you guys don't like avatars, theres another thread to put those comments in.
He's asking which avatar is best suited for AB, so answer the question instead of going "they suck so none." Go U!! =D
My favourite avatar is Lyssa, it takes out eles so fast and the extra energy helps with my scythe attacks.
He's asking which avatar is best suited for AB, so answer the question instead of going "they suck so none." Go U!! =D
My favourite avatar is Lyssa, it takes out eles so fast and the extra energy helps with my scythe attacks.
Coloneh
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Originally Posted by CagedinSanity
If you guys don't like avatars, theres another thread to put those comments in.
He's asking which avatar is best suited for AB, so answer the question instead of going "they suck so none." but they do suck, and he obviously hasn't read the threads about why. we are just trying to help out someone who asked for help.
He's asking which avatar is best suited for AB, so answer the question instead of going "they suck so none." but they do suck, and he obviously hasn't read the threads about why. we are just trying to help out someone who asked for help.
Riotgear
AB conflicts are about swift kills. You don't need Balthazar, just pack a speed boost and/or Crippling Sweep. Lyssa is good for smacking bad players around for tons of damage, occasionally. Dwayna is... no. Grenth in a place with little prot is questionable, unless you want to headhunt assassins. Melandru is an unstoppable rape machine.
Conclusion: Melandru.
Just bring Wearying Strike and Chilling Victory to kick people in the face.
Conclusion: Melandru.
Just bring Wearying Strike and Chilling Victory to kick people in the face.
LightningHell
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but they do suck, and he obviously hasn't read the threads about why. we are just trying to help out someone who asked for help.
I'll just point to Melandru and run.
BTW, taking an Avatar to AB isn't optimal since you won't get a jump-recharge by morale boosts, unlike in HA or in GvG, or even PvE.
BTW, taking an Avatar to AB isn't optimal since you won't get a jump-recharge by morale boosts, unlike in HA or in GvG, or even PvE.
Avarre
Hi, my name is Melandru, and I am the juggernaut.
Condition immunity, huge health, strong attacks with wearying, pious restoration to deal with hexes, IMBUE HEALTH for team support... there's a reason it's run on splits in GvG, and many of those skirmish principles apply to AB.
Condition immunity, huge health, strong attacks with wearying, pious restoration to deal with hexes, IMBUE HEALTH for team support... there's a reason it's run on splits in GvG, and many of those skirmish principles apply to AB.
Coloneh
uhm can you say 60 second down time? better off with a condition removal , vital boon, and another elite.
Servant of Kali
I'd go with Melandru because in AB you SHOULD NOT fight other players if possible.
1 monk with run boost
3 dmg dealers with run boosts
Go Melandru and Wearying Strike, kill those NPCs fast.. that's pretty much it. Run to next group.
1 monk with run boost
3 dmg dealers with run boosts
Go Melandru and Wearying Strike, kill those NPCs fast.. that's pretty much it. Run to next group.
Just_ A_Nightmare
id go with meladru or maybe balthayar whichever you prefer out of those 2
CagedinSanity
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
uhm can you say 60 second down time? better off with a condition removal , vital boon, and another elite.
Can we say that those 60 seonds can be spent running to other shrines, waiting to cap shrines, or just simple fighting without it? with things like mystic regen (with 3 other enchantments including VITAL BOON) I can be a huge tank without any elite at all, just those 7 skills.
I'm starting to think people hate avatars because they find nothing to do during that 60 seconds. Pathetic, really.
I'm starting to think people hate avatars because they find nothing to do during that 60 seconds. Pathetic, really.
Coloneh
so your agreeing with me? you just said that you can "tank"(not the correct word, but whatever) without an avatar. so if you can do without, then why do with when you could have something thats actually helpful?
Just_ A_Nightmare
in a mission or something where u r fighting lots and can make use of an avatar then its good, if u tend not to be fighting much take a defensive elite that isnt an avatar
Osi Ri S
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
but they do suck, and he obviously hasn't read the threads about why. we are just trying to help out someone who asked for help.
He didnt ask for help on deciding if avys are bad. He asked for help on WHICH avy would be good for AB. Reading comprehension FTW (not in your case though) go troll someplace else, and stop ruining a perfectly good thread.
BTW id have to say, either Melandru or Balthazar. Id imagine that both would be quite nice in capping all the shrines, the Balth speed boost looks like it would help alot too.
BTW id have to say, either Melandru or Balthazar. Id imagine that both would be quite nice in capping all the shrines, the Balth speed boost looks like it would help alot too.
Tingi
Melandru end of.
But I wouldn't run an avatar in ABs.
No morale = what's the point.
But I wouldn't run an avatar in ABs.
No morale = what's the point.
CagedinSanity
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
so your agreeing with me? you just said that you can "tank"(not the correct word, but whatever) without an avatar. so if you can do without, then why do with when you could have something thats actually helpful?
Sure, there are other elites to choose from but an avatar would not be bad to have. On that 60 second cooldown time, you can be spent running to other shrines to TAKING other shrines.
sh4d0whunta
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Originally Posted by Coloneh
how about Vow of strength or ebon dust aura? my favorite avvys.
lol vow of strength owns but the best avatar in ab would be melandru combined with wearying strike and some decent self healing also zealous renewal would be good if u used melandru and wearying strike
Van vincing
dwayna is actually not a bad choice, she cud be self spike healer and spike dmging at once plus a hex remover (which mesmers and necros hate) I personally wud make a build NOT based on elites then fit it in, so far, i only use dwayna in pve or pvp or other things when i NEED to,
TO ppl hu finks avtars suk, they suk. Avatars last 1 min (except for grenth cause they're tooo spamable, removing 1 enchanment per spell att?? Kinda nuts) 1 min is basically all the time u need to kill either monsters surrounding a boss in pve (the monks will look after u) or the boss itself in pve. In pvp, after gettin hit a few times by assasins and warriors, they no longer bother me because they cant get my health down, I heal 50 health per SPELL, they hit me at most 80, in general, with vital boon, dwayna or other avatars are pretty effective
ps: dwayna only cause 5 energy to cast, balthazar cost 10
TO ppl hu finks avtars suk, they suk. Avatars last 1 min (except for grenth cause they're tooo spamable, removing 1 enchanment per spell att?? Kinda nuts) 1 min is basically all the time u need to kill either monsters surrounding a boss in pve (the monks will look after u) or the boss itself in pve. In pvp, after gettin hit a few times by assasins and warriors, they no longer bother me because they cant get my health down, I heal 50 health per SPELL, they hit me at most 80, in general, with vital boon, dwayna or other avatars are pretty effective
ps: dwayna only cause 5 energy to cast, balthazar cost 10
Coloneh
vow of strength is free. whats your point?