i'll pay 10+ pounds for a new fully unlocked pve character

I'm a pvp player, i also want to use a good looking character with fancy armor and weapon ... etc but i don't have the time to go through all 3 chapters with new character. And tbh it's pretty boring after i've done it with 3+ characters.

So here i suggest Anet to sell a fully unlocked pve character for a price (10 pounds or so),
i) fully unlocked for all the skill in his/her profession;
ii) fully unlocked map so can go cap any elite for the secondary profession as well as buying new armor.

These kind of characters will NOT have any pve titles. So it's not like paying for titles.

this function doesnt affect pve players since it won't help with getting title (not like there's a competition anyway) and pvp players can be happy with the nice looking new armors. and Anet can make more money.

....what's the point of PvE if everything's unlocked/finished for you automatically?

no. it's not that you don't have the time to do it it is that you are too lazy to do it... if you don't make time to go through campaigns with new PvE chars, then you don't deserve the bonuses

Not that i'm lazy, just that i dont want to spend my time that way, i've done it with 3 characters already, the missions really are not fun anymore. To get one character ready for pvp is not just about finishing the campagins u have to go cap all the elites too, which take as much time as finishing one campaign....

My suggestion doesn't hurt anyone. And it's not for pve, i just want to pvp with cool looking armor and weapon (and maybe sometimes do some elite missions).

Maybe this option is only for an account with 2+ characters completed the game.

What next? Pay £1 to insta-pass the missions on masters?

The only problem I could see with this is that players that haven't built up experience playing through the game will suddenly be at high end PvE areas where mistakes are costly. Not to say this doesn't already happen, but it could potentially happen more. Having this option for people that have already completed the game with 2 characters might help, but they would still be lacking experience with the specific profession they choose.

I agree with Russell.Crowe.
The fastest and simplest way to get a work done is to do it. If you want something, then you'll need to work for it.

Your right...you know what? why dont we put ectos in for say £5 per 100 ectos...because ya know i'm finding it boring farming for them

On a serious note: No...just no. Getting that good looking armor piece in PvE takes your effort to put up with the campaign. If you find it boring doing the same thing...tough. Whats the point of PvE if you can just get a character fully loaded in seconds?.

What would be the point of PvEing anymore, if such an option would exist?
You can't get more powerful than an instantly created PvP-Char. In fact even being on even ground with instant-chars already is a very hard work.
Perfect weapons, capturing/buying all skills, crafting armor, getting all Runes/Insignias and probably several sets of each.

Oh yeah I forgot, the point was that if I can't be more powerful than an instant-char, I can at least LOOK better. Doesn't hurt any PvPer, but gives a great incentive for PvEing.
Why else would I farm and grind for weeks and months (and YEARS)?

Giving PvPers the ability to look as good as PvE-chars, that had to work for months to look like that, would be a punch in every PvE'ers face and make PvE a complete FARCE.

Sorry PvP-only players, you can't have everything. You already got perfect equipment and can unlock all skills for some $$$.
If you don't want to look like an instant-char, don't create one. Go through the grind- and farm threadmill like everybody else.

[edit] Not to mention that it would thin out the PvE-population, and make it even harder to find people for missions (than it already is with the introduction of heroes). Would be very frustrating for newcomers, just as it has been when you could create level 20 chars in DAoC, once you had a max level on your account.

...Yeah this would void the point of PvE in the first place.

you braging around that you have finished the missions with 3+chars so what i am playing for 20 months and finished all the chapters with all my 7 chars(and the rest 2 are pvp)and i enjoy doing the missions evey single time cause anet did a great job with this game.So i dont agree of buying a pve char

you braging around that you have finished the missions with 3+chars so what i am playing for 20 months and finished all the chapters with all my 7 chars(and the rest 2 are pvp)and i enjoy doing the missions evey single time cause anet did a great job with this game.So i dont agree of buying a pve char

I don't like the idea. Why not just use faction to unlock exclusive pvp armor if that's what pvprs want?

10 pounds of what? lawl

Stupid idea, utterly stupid.

I kind of agree, kind of don't, but I think there should be more freedom that what this game currently allows. trobinson97 has got the right idea I think.

Wilhelm, you're an idiot. "10 pounds of what"

If they were to do this, you could pretty well guarantee the death of Guild Wars, as PvE players would cease playing.

Amazing, talk about a kick in the groin to all PvE players.

I think a better angle, would be to grant PvP characters more appearance options. Since basically it sounds to me, like you find PvE a chore, rather than somthing you like playing. So instead of having maxed out PvE characters that you could buy for real cash (an idea I think many people, including ANet, would not condone) it would be far more reasonable to have additional customizations for PvP toons.

Now for all the folks who say "PvP players don't care about appearances!", "If they want good looking characters, they should make PvE toons!", and "Anet will never do this!", just remember the following:

PvP players clearly do care about appearance, as a member of a PvP guild, I know of a lot of players who will clear an entire campaign, just to get X elite, or certain armor. This is especially true for GvG, where certain players will have certain key characters they play often (monks and warriors seem especially prone to wielding their E-Peen enhancing gear in PvP).

As for the "You should make a PvE character if you want to look good" argument. I simply say: why? So long as the challange to aquire the added appearances in PvP was equal to those in PvE, I don't see an issue with it. By that I mean, these new appearances would not be open to you initially, but you would have to unlock them somehow. Perhaps a certain amount of balthazar faction, they could even introduce collectors items to PvP, similar to sigils, which could in turn be traded in for account wide PvP rewards.

And finally to those nay-sayers who think ANet wouldn't do such a thing; they've already started. With multiple armour possibilities on PvP toons, along with dyes for weapons and armour.

i would like that good idea.

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pve is for fun, the game is for fun. if u dont like a particular part of it dont do it. but if there's something that can be done which doesn't hurt nobody and can make someone happy at the same time why not? Pve to me is a different game play, not a way to get armor and weapon. It's not like buying ecto on ebay with real money that will mess up the economics, it's just save me time to go through everything for a few times. All i want just map and skill unlocked. Does it affect anyone in anyway? No.

there's someone saying $1 for master mission, but hey if u can't get the title for it then would you still think it's worthwhile?

One said "Giving PvPers the ability to look as good as PvE-chars, that had to work for months to look like that, would be a punch in every PvE'ers face and make PvE a complete FARCE." I don't know what do pve players think, but i hope they don't play because they want to look good (especially to look better than pvp character). If you want to compete with pvp player (in a way) then imo it's the pve titles, not the armor.

I play pve because it's fun. Not just to get the uber gear. I understand the OP's point, but that is not the way to go. I don't think it would stop the pve'rs, but pvp'rs need to earn their stuff like everyone else.

Stop trying to turn PvE into PvP! It would kill that half of the game completely. If you want a ready-made, level 20 character with max stat stuff right from the start, then make a PvP character! So what if it doesn't have the nicest looking armor and equipment? That's not the point.

/definitelynotsignedintheslightest

The OP's suggestion, if implemented, could kill the game.

One thing that ANet has done very well is to balance a free to play game without resorting to retail schemes that create "elite" player classes.

I would be equally opposed to ANet allowing players to purchase max weapons or armor via an online store.

We already have enough people in PvE that don't play with others or actually play the game for that matter.

The ability to by pass all the content and skip to the high end is the equivalent of suicide for a game.

The journey is the game.

hence why I said lawl....an end to a perfectly corny joke.

Probably the lamest coverup in human history.

So you don't want to spent time on leveling and capture the elite's but you want to grind to get your cool looking 15K or FoW armor? That takes the same time or even longer. Or do you also want to buy that?

I spend 1 month to get FoW armor on my Monk and everyone who wants FoW should do the same..

In a word: no.

Work and grind for it like the rest of us.

if you read the Dev Table article posted a few days ago, there seems to be a "visual pack" for pvp in the works (unconfirmed though), which sounds more like what luilui is looking for. better looking pvp characters without the hassle of playing through pve to get it.

I thought it was funny.

You would give 10 pounds for this...10 pounds of what? lol

Must be that British humor...

err, humour.

/not signed.

PvP players already get everything unlocked for a few bucks, and a little bit of time. Even giving them more appearance options, would be a slap in the face for PvE players. But the way Anet is heading I am sure they will be getting something to appease them.

PvP

Max Level
Perfect Weapons
Unlock Heroes ONCE at Max, and how many times do you have to Arm them and Rune them???
Unlock Skills ONCE or PvE for skill unlocks (usable for all PvP toons) OR better yet literally BUY them from the NCSoft Store.
Unlock areas ONCE
Boring Armor....awwwww

Make new toon~everythings already done.

PvE

Start Toon
Level to 20
Hopefully find perfect weapon (or buy it from someone that has)
Gather Items for armor, make(buy) armor (in some places at least 2x until Max armor available.)(Hope for Runes to "unlock" or buy them too)
Unlock Skills
Unlock Areas
Unlock, Arm, and Level heroes.
Beat Game~End Game Armor? WOOHOO.

REPEAT FROM NOTHING or Finally just opt to play one maybe two toons fully.

Yes Anet please hand more things to PvP players they have it so hard when it comes to getting things. BTW, I have played both and have a PvP toon and I even see the unfairness in the current state of things.

Insert credit card for mission bonus now...

/signed to that, great idea

/notsigned to the OP's idea

Ok man, Dude Im so tired of having to grind for r12, ffs a phoenix is so far away,.

Anet can i pay you 10£ and you give me 20k fame?
kkthx

/sarcasm by the way...

/agree

That sums it up completely. So if you want to make PvE complete characters (Joke) for PvP players, then allow PvE players to buy fame or rank emotes, NOT!!!!

It's different, a title mean something u've done, but a fully unlock pve character means nothing but just the look. The armor by no mean indicates what u have achieved in guildwars. Maybe FoW armor, but my suggestion is helping to get to the town, not paying for the armor with real money, u'll still have to pay with gw money.

15k armor is a status symbol in PvE if you weren't familiar with that point.

The higher cost, requires rare materials, and isolated locations make this the status of those that have played above and beyond the norm for that armor.

You and your 10 pounds do not deserve it.

For 10 pounds, they should just give you a character slot, with a level 3 character in the starting area.

It took my first character 5 months to get the first set of 15k armor. That was playing every day for about 3-4 hours.

How much Faction can you get in PvP in 5 months playing 3-4 hours. There is the cost in Faction to unlock elite armor skins for your current PvP avatar.

And I think, if you reroll, you lose the unlock.

omg i'm not asking to buy the 15k armor with 10 pounds, i'm asking to pay 10 pounds to put me in the town where i can buy the armor (as well as something else). and if i want i can do that in 5 hours to get there, but i dont think a 15k armor worth me 5 hours. I can get my friends to run me thought the campaigns. But i don't want to do that because i can have fun pvping or something else.

it took u 5 months to get ur 15k that's fine. I have already played for almost 2 years, i have enough gold to buy almost anything i want(1M gold) , i've done everything in pve at least once. Really the difference is just about that 5-10 hours of gameplay and i'm willing to pay 10 pounds to save that 10 hours that's all.

why do u guys have to look at it as if i want to commit a crime....

The trouble is, if you've payed cash money to get that far then it encourges behaviour to pay more money to go that extra step further. It encourges Gold Buying behaviour.

PvE is PvE. To make progress, you gotta play. Them's the rules and they won't change.

For PvP? Perfect, login and play.

For PvE? NEVER. Play like everyone else does.

the whole thread is a stupid idea that will never happen its over if you want to have ''uber'' armor play pvp with your pve char unlock the skills and play but i doubt a hard core pvper like you has uber armor in his pve players end of story(again)

/Not Signed
everybody else hasto go through PVE to get elites etc and i don't see why you should pay to have a char that already has every PVE outpost

Buying the skills for a PvP character is reasonable, considering if you regularly hang out in RA, you can easily gain balthazar faction to get enough points to buy the skills for a build you want to make. Even in AB if your guild is allied with lux/kurz, it's a fun way to grab some balthazar faction too. So it's not too hard to grab those factions and skills. The reward for PVP is learning how the skills work, learning to work cooperatively with teams (even if random) and titles that give you the ability to hold even more balthazar faction at once. So buying skills doesn't totally rip out PVP per se as you still have to have that *PvP experience* to gain the titles/unlock new arena areas/etc.

I really do not like the idea of making PVE items/skills buyable. OR even placing you in an area to buy either items. You learn after you have played this game through several times (like myself, EXCEPT for NF), that you can either do things again because you're helping a friend/guild mate, or there's a weapon you want, armor you want, skill you want that can only be found in one area. If you were given the ability to unlock your PVE character similarly like the PVP character, it totally drains the PVE experience. I understand it gets old when you're doing things over and over again and I personally have at least 10 characters where each week/month there's always SOMETHING I'm wanting to grab. You only have to go through several times because you choose to. The game is intended to be explored similarly in order to get skills/unlock areas/uncover fog. You chose to make those characters and I chose to make mine.

You GAIN those areas on the map... you UNCOVER fog, grab skills from each town, grab armor from a town of choice because you MADE it there through the story line. Allowing people to skip through like that spoils PvE and would cause more issues just by being implemented.

I also don't agree with the suggestion to make PVE armors available to PVP characters. The armors are gained through showing allegiance to an alliance, or actively playing through the story line. However, it would be interesting if Anet added a special pvp gear to the lines of the ones you can currently create based on PVP titles achieved. X gladiator points can get you a special PVP edition armor choice on PVP characters.

Sorry if half of this is rambling... I got called away several times to work on stuff at the shop. :P