Attribute quests/Heros Challenge,Forgoten wisdom

How do I start these quests,who gives them or where do they originate from? Thanks for any info.

Forgotten Wisdom originates from the quest, "The Forgotten Ones." This quest is available at Destiny's Gorge from Annelle Fipps in the Crystal Desert. After completion of The Forgotten Ones, the NPC who finished that quest will give you Forgotten Wisdom for your first 15 Attribute Points.

The Hero's Challenge originates from Vanyi in Droknar's Forge. Before you can get this quest, you must ascend, and complete one of the quests to change your secondary class in the Crystal Desert. After doing both of those, Vanyi will give you this quest to get your second 15 Attribute Points.

How can I tell if I've done these,I'm up to level 13 and am checking to see if I missed anything.I don't recall the desert .Is there a marker on the map that should be showing? Thanks for the reply!

Have you done the Sanctum Cay mission? That is the mission that takes you to the Crystal Desert area.

Here is the link to guildwiki page for mission progression in Prophecies.
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Mission...8Prophecies%29

How can you tell what ones you've done? I'm stillaround Yaks and Borliss pass,I think I've done all the quests from that area and nothing leads me to the desert!?Thanks for the replys

You have a long ways to go. Thru the Shiverpeaks, Kryta, Maguuma Jungle, back in Kryta and then into the desert.