Obsidian flesh tank

Pan Head

Pan Head

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/R

What is the best build for an obsidian flesh tank. I have tried out a few different skills but just have not found the sweet spot.

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Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

Obsidian Flesh tank just sucks. Go Primary Elementalist.

dies like fish

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

Winter Wonderland [brrr]

W/E

I use...

Obsidian Flesh
Dolyak Signet
Endure Pain
Stoneflesh Aura
Endure Pain
Glyph of Concentration
Wary Stance
Lightbringer's Gaze or Resurrection Signet (depending where you are, of course)

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

warriors

cant

tank

ever




epically not with en ele elite spell. you need an E/R to be an Obs flesh tank.

Stormbringer

Stormbringer

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Coloneh
warriors

cant

tank

ever

. What in the??
Okay.. if you say so.
*Makes party*
*let the eles tank with the earth ench*
*mobs use ench removal*
*ele dies*
*warrior was dmg build-up*
*monk dies*
*party dies*
*party blames the warrior*

Warriors are the only class that do not need enchs to tank, armor bonus like WY Doy and DP and stances that have "no" CD are all you need.
Get real.

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

Tanking is stupid.

Obsidian Flesh tanking is done with an Elementalist, who can chain Obsidian Flesh and use Earth armor buffs. No enchant removal via Obsidian Flesh is win...unless, of course, you get a Chilblains in your face...

Tingi

Tingi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

well all of your questions have been answered Pan Head.

I shall now tell you that Warriors should not "Tank" ever. Ever.

Dealing damage? Tick
Taking damage? Sure, high AL means they are naturally resistant to attacks. And hell you can even bring Watch Yourslef in PvE as this is a very nice skill to bring. But focuss your building around dealing damage. Not Tanking.

Effigy

Effigy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Illinois, US

Heroes of Talia [HoT]

Mo/

I'm pretty sure he's talking about DoA, where tanking is in fact a viable option. I don't know if anyone's come up with a decent team builds that doesn't utilize a tank of some sort (haven't done DoA since the week it was released), but previously a Obs Flesh tank was pretty much a given.

LightningHell

LightningHell

(????????????)???

Join Date: Aug 2005

Hong Kong

Guildless

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Effigy
I'm pretty sure he's talking about DoA, where tanking is in fact a viable option. I don't know if anyone's come up with a decent team builds that doesn't utilize a tank of some sort (haven't done DoA since the week it was released), but previously a Obs Flesh tank was pretty much a given.
Problem is, the Obs Flesh tank is an Elementalist, not a Warrior.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

my point, warriors shouldnt be tanking. E/R can keep up constant obsidian flesh. stormbringer you obviously dont know what your talking about.

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormbringer
What in the??
Okay.. if you say so.
*Makes party*
*let the eles tank with the earth ench*
*mobs use ench removal*
*ele dies*
*warrior was dmg build-up*
*monk dies*
*party dies*
*party blames the warrior*

Warriors are the only class that do not need enchs to tank, armor bonus like WY Doy and DP and stances that have "no" CD are all you need.
Get real. [card]Obsidian Flesh[/card]
Read that. Get real.

This is the only thing you should be afraid of.
[card]Chilblains[/card]

qvtkc

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
[card]Obsidian Flesh[/card]
Read that. Get real.

This is the only thing you should be afraid of.
[card]Chilblains[/card] [skill]Broad Head Arrow[/skill]

EDIT: Obsidian Flesh tanks are not elementalists (well, not in DoA anyway), they are warriors, because you need more than just Obsidian Flesh, you need Dolyak Signet too.

Lord Nibiru

Lord Nibiru

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Croatia

KoD

Mo/

haha,elementalist like tanker? you must be joking,and that joke is very stupid.
Ele with 20 less armor then warrior to tank?! please.......think what you are talking......

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Nibiru
haha,elementalist like tanker? you must be joking,and that joke is very stupid.
Ele with 20 less armor then warrior to tank?! please.......think what you are talking...... Have you ever looked at the earth skills line. Or are you the stereotypical ele predisposed only choosing fire.

Lord Nibiru

Lord Nibiru

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Croatia

KoD

Mo/

ele with enchaments is dead ele,I know because I play mesmer and necro

Effigy

Effigy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Illinois, US

Heroes of Talia [HoT]

Mo/

Nibiru, don't get involved unless you know what you're talking about.

I have seen W/E successfully tank in DoA, although I'm not sure how it compares to a E/*. It can work though.

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Nibiru
ele with enchaments is dead ele,I know because I play mesmer and necro Observing and doing are two different things.

Lord Nibiru

Lord Nibiru

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Croatia

KoD

Mo/

I was just talking about tanking,if I look only DoA tank,then ele is better.

Lord Nibiru

Lord Nibiru

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Croatia

KoD

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by NinjaKai
Observing and doing are two different things. And I was doing.

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

Don't listen to Lord Nibiru. He was a pain in teh butt in the assassin board too.

Tingi

Tingi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Nibiru
haha,elementalist like tanker? you must be joking,and that joke is very stupid.
Ele with 20 less armor then warrior to tank?! please.......think what you are talking...... Point 1 - Learn how to construct a proper sentence.

Point 2 - As Yanman said, you're a pian in the a** in the Assassin section as well

Point 3 - An elementalist can "tank" (bah tanking is dead) much, much better than a warrior can. Warrior SHOULD NOT TANK EVER. (tbh I don't really know about DoA - but then again I don't give a monkeys bollocks about it either as PvE is not my thing.

Point 4 - Tanking is dead. The new AI makes enemies go for...guess who...casters yay! Tanking is stupid. End of. The only "exception" maybe DoA BUT it is probably a long, slow and arduous task. As I've said before, I am no expert at DoA. But I am possitive that Earth elementalists makes better "tanks".

Point 4 - I do not mean to sound offensive, but I want to drill into your skull my points. I hope you can take these on board.

Thomas.knbk

Thomas.knbk

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Obsidian Flesh
Stoneflesh Aura
Armor of Earth
Kinetic Armor
Stone Daggers
Mystic Regeneration
Earth Attunement
Res Sig

The perfect OF tank

Lord Nibiru

Lord Nibiru

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Croatia

KoD

Mo/

Whatever.Every1 have different thinking.
Good build,but only for tanking...damage? I don't see damage.
Like Tan Blademaster said: "tanking is stupid"

Teutonic Paladin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

TW

W/

As many have said, tanking is virtually worthless in Guild Wars. However, in the elite area Domain of Anguish tanks are still extremely prevalent and incredibly useful for thier ability to body block and pull large groups of absurdly powerful enemies to choke points where they can be nuked. I typically use the following build.

Signet of Stamina
Endure Pain (can be kept up constantly against Margonite mobs)
Obsidian Flesh
Armor of Earth
Stoneflesh Aura
Ward Against Foes
Wary Stance
Glyph of Concentration

The build can be more effective based on area, this is what I use in Ravenheart's Gloom to allow me to block Savage Shot and the effects of Broadhead Arrow. If you become dazed stop casting until it is removed or wears off.

Jesse

Jesse

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

New York

Vanquishing Memories [VM]

Mo/Me

in the GoA Obsidian Flesh tanks are W/E. Mostly everywere else its an ele.

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by qvtkc
[skill]Broad Head Arrow[/skill]
Wow.. Broad Head Arrow.. That's so scary..

Just wait for it to go away, or have one of your monks remove the damn thing. And I was referring to the guy's comment on Enchant Removal, which is not possible with Obsidian Flesh on, unless you're hit with Chilblains.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Nibiru
Whatever.Every1 have different thinking.
Good build,but only for tanking...damage? I don't see damage.
Like Tan Blademaster said: "tanking is stupid" Damnit, we know that "tanking is stupid," but in some "elite" areas, it's needed.

Pwnd by a guineapig

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

In your imagination.

knights who say Ni Ni [KWSN]

W/

Eh thhis is the build I use when I wanna play as W/E when I do 5 man FoW/UW... I thinks its an ok build since it hasnt gotten me kicked and people know what im doing...

Attributes I have

Axe mastery 10
Earth Magic 12
Tactics 12 (3+1)

Stoneflesh Aura
Armor of earth
Obsidian flesh (Havent capped yet)(Im replacing it with Crictical chop Until I get Obby flesh)
Evirscate
"Watch yourself!"
Thrill of Victory
Healing Signet
Executioners strike

Im gonna try this build later today to see if it has any Dual hero/Solo farming things on Noob island in Kamadan.

erfweiss

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Cold Black Eyes

W/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pwnd by a guineapig
Eh thhis is the build I use when I wanna play as W/E when I do 5 man FoW/UW... I thinks its an ok build since it hasnt gotten me kicked and people know what im doing...

Attributes I have

Axe mastery 10
Earth Magic 12
Tactics 12 (3+1)

Stoneflesh Aura
Armor of earth
Obsidian flesh (Havent capped yet)(Im replacing it with Crictical chop Until I get Obby flesh)
Evirscate
"Watch yourself!"
Thrill of Victory
Healing Signet
Executioners strike

Im gonna try this build later today to see if it has any Dual hero/Solo farming things on Noob island in Kamadan. Now, I'm assuming you're going to move critical chop in the spot previously occupied by Evisicrate? You can't have Obsidian Flesh on the bar, too. Two elites.

qvtkc

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
Wow.. Broad Head Arrow.. That's so scary..

Just wait for it to go away, or have one of your monks remove the damn thing. And I was referring to the guy's comment on Enchant Removal, which is not possible with Obsidian Flesh on, unless you're hit with Chilblains. Yes I know, I'm sorry. It's just that every time someone says "Elementalists can tank better than warriors" I tend to remember something that happened in Eternal Grove... We had an ele who claimed to be able to "tank". Sure, he was invincible for the first part of the mission. Then the afflicted came, and he got pwnt by their rangers in no time.

Also there are other ways to disenchant without targeting directly with a spell. Order of Apostasy and Avatar of Grenth etc.

Well as said, tanking is kind of stupid, but needed/beneficial in a few (very few) areas. I don't know, but warriors and eles can use Obsidian Flesh efficiently, it depends on other things which profession is best for the occasion.

Dutch Masterr

Dutch Masterr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Long Island, NY

Elite Knights [SWAT]

W/

only 2 places to actually "tank" in this game now are The Deep and DoA.

w/e obsidian flesh tanks are in high demand in DoA...eles cant tank!

snapple

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Sweden

Teh Moabirdz [Moa]

W/

Logan Staal agrees.

Pan Head

Pan Head

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2006

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Masterr
only 2 places to actually "tank" in this game now are The Deep and DoA.

w/e obsidian flesh tanks are in high demand in DoA...eles cant tank!
This is why i started this thread. DoA always wants this build. I started this thread to get some ideas for a good build. Did not know it was going to start a debate if is wa a good idea or not. Seems to me it must be a good idea or there would not be so many GP's wanting them.

Coloneh

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas.knbk
Obsidian Flesh
Stoneflesh Aura
Armor of Earth
Kinetic Armor
Stone Daggers
Mystic Regeneration
Earth Attunement
Res Sig

The perfect OF tank close, but not exactly.

Obsidian flesh
StoneFlesh Aura
Armor of Earth
Kinetic Armor
Aura Of restoration
Earth Attunment
Serpent's Quickness
Res Sig

constant OF is nice

Pwnd by a guineapig

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

In your imagination.

knights who say Ni Ni [KWSN]

W/

The build I use for when I flesh tank is

12 earth magic
10 tactics
rest in sword/axe/hammer master

:::NOTE this attrivutes are providing you ahve runes to help :::

Obsidian flesh {E}
Stoneflesh Aura
Armor of Earth
Final thrust
Healing signet
Steelfang Slash
Galrath Slash
Sunspear rebirth Signet/Ressurect

So yeah... love using this build because i think it PWNS

Effigy

Effigy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Illinois, US

Heroes of Talia [HoT]

Mo/

Guineapig, I have no idea where you plan to use that build, but it misses the mark. Thomas's and Coloneh's are more on point.

On that note, I've seen some tanks bring Ward Against Foes to keep the mobs from breaking aggro before they get AoE'd to death. Something to consider anyway.

Michael Dennis

Michael Dennis

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

N/A

W/

all i can say is: dude, plz dont!

Effigy

Effigy

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Illinois, US

Heroes of Talia [HoT]

Mo/

Please don't what?