Protector Of X and Hard Mode ?
Master Ikram
I'm wondering right now why A-Net Made Guardian of X...There was nothing wrong with the title and it was hard enough to get...Also What is Hard Mode ? Please return the Protector Title as it was!! Kind of a Big deal is hard enough to get,People Know me is Harder!
Gli
*giggles*
That takes the number of 'unmaxable' PvE titles up to 5.
That takes the number of 'unmaxable' PvE titles up to 5.
Shanaeri Rynale
It's a glitch, Gaile just confirmed it in chat.
Panic over(for now)
Panic over(for now)
Rahl
Sooo.... what does that mean?
That "Guardian" will be optional? and the Prot title for primary/bonus completion will be enough for the title?
This is very frustrating.
That "Guardian" will be optional? and the Prot title for primary/bonus completion will be enough for the title?
This is very frustrating.
roblethal
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Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
It's a glitch, Gaile just confirmed it in chat.
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
It's not a bug. Protector titles are no longer max.
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10119096 |
roblethal
Thanks. Mayhaps a thread shouldn't be locked with misinformation??
Rahl
Where is Gaile right now? And has she said when it will be "fixed"?
Cass
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Thanks. Mayhaps a thread shouldn't be locked with misinformation??
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TyrianFury
Right I nearly hit the roof when I saw that my Ele had lost her KOABD title. I mean what is Anet palying at. 750 hours and 6 max titles scraped. Agreed masters on missions is the 'hard mode'.
Who wants to do all missions in all three games again to re-earn thier 'Kind of a big deal title'. I have never been one to moan in a forum about game changes but this one is utter madness.
I have been a loyal Guild Wars player since Aug 05 and have worked really hard to get titles for my characters. 'People Know Me' was the uber leet title to go for and was realistic. KOABD was also hard to get and It showed dedication for completing each game 100%.
Updates made to the game are to make the game more playable and enjoyable for the player, and not to deliberatly p*** them off. It seems Anet really want to stop players from enjoying the game.
PLEASE ARENA NET RETURN THE PROTECTOR TITLES AND KOABD TO ITS ORIGINAL STATE. THIS IS REALLY UNFAIR AND UNTIL KNOW I HAVE REALLY ENJOYED THE GAME. 18 MONTHS OF FUN GAME PLAY AND HARD WORK RUNINED BY THE UPDATE.
Who wants to do all missions in all three games again to re-earn thier 'Kind of a big deal title'. I have never been one to moan in a forum about game changes but this one is utter madness.
I have been a loyal Guild Wars player since Aug 05 and have worked really hard to get titles for my characters. 'People Know Me' was the uber leet title to go for and was realistic. KOABD was also hard to get and It showed dedication for completing each game 100%.
Updates made to the game are to make the game more playable and enjoyable for the player, and not to deliberatly p*** them off. It seems Anet really want to stop players from enjoying the game.
PLEASE ARENA NET RETURN THE PROTECTOR TITLES AND KOABD TO ITS ORIGINAL STATE. THIS IS REALLY UNFAIR AND UNTIL KNOW I HAVE REALLY ENJOYED THE GAME. 18 MONTHS OF FUN GAME PLAY AND HARD WORK RUNINED BY THE UPDATE.
Evilsod
Why would he unlock it now there's another thread already active on the same topic...
Wish Anet would be able to at least get something right when they do these updates. But on the bright side... i still have my KoaBD title.
Edit: Tyrian, jeez get over it... if your not prepared to work slightly harder for you Protector titles you don't deserve your KoaBD title either.
Wish Anet would be able to at least get something right when they do these updates. But on the bright side... i still have my KoaBD title.
Edit: Tyrian, jeez get over it... if your not prepared to work slightly harder for you Protector titles you don't deserve your KoaBD title either.
Indian
i think its fair enough, still have my KoaBD title too, was 1 away from PKM but now gotta work haarder as soon as they fix the hard mode, so we can PLAY hard mode
Sir Skullcrasher
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Where is Gaile right now? And has she said when it will be "fixed"?
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I don't think i'll ever get KOABD, I only got one max title and that is protector of Tyria.
Rahl
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Originally Posted by Sir Skullcrasher
Shaban!!! i found you now!!
I don't think i'll ever get KOABD, I only got one max title and that is protector of Tyria. |
And yes, you finally did find me
bhavv
Sorry, but the hard mode idea is the most rubbish update ever made for PVE. I for one do not want to go through every single mission again, and completly changing titles once they were already at max is pretty damn annoying for anyone that had them before.
Revert back to the original protector titles and scrap hard mode.
Revert back to the original protector titles and scrap hard mode.
Shanaeri Rynale
Rahl
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Revert back to the original protector titles and scrap hard mode.
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Yarly
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Originally Posted by TyrianFury
Right I nearly hit the roof when I saw that my Ele had lost her KOABD title. I mean what is Anet palying at. 750 hours and 6 max titles scraped. Agreed masters on missions is the 'hard mode'.
Who wants to do all missions in all three games again to re-earn thier 'Kind of a big deal title'. I have never been one to moan in a forum about game changes but this one is utter madness. I have been a loyal Guild Wars player since Aug 05 and have worked really hard to get titles for my characters. 'People Know Me' was the uber leet title to go for and was realistic. KOABD was also hard to get and It showed dedication for completing each game 100%. Updates made to the game are to make the game more playable and enjoyable for the player, and not to deliberatly p*** them off. It seems Anet really want to stop players from enjoying the game. PLEASE ARENA NET RETURN THE PROTECTOR TITLES AND KOABD TO ITS ORIGINAL STATE. THIS IS REALLY UNFAIR AND UNTIL KNOW I HAVE REALLY ENJOYED THE GAME. 18 MONTHS OF FUN GAME PLAY AND HARD WORK RUNINED BY THE UPDATE. |
Went apeshit when i saw 2 titles maxed.... From 5 before
Damn Anet are quite good at raising peoples blood pressure aren't they, now the true meaning of "Games can be harmful to your health" seriously means something. lolWell Gaile didn't exactly explain alot about this "Glitch" did she? I hope its optional, ive only just reached my Koabd, and for it to be taken away again, sheesh id rage untill 2008.
lennymon
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Sorry, but the hard mode idea is the most rubbish update ever made for PVE. I for one do not want to go through every single mission again, and completly changing titles once they were already at max is pretty damn annoying for anyone that had them before.
Revert back to the original protector titles and scrap hard mode. |
to which I say:
, its too damn easy to get protector of anything... imo. heh, go cap 291 elites and you dont get a max title they still havent fixed that either.
Kakumei
Holy shit.
I honestly can't fathom why people are so upset over this, bug or not.
They changed the requirements to max the easiest titles in the game. I don't see why this is such a problem--they're just making KoaBD that much harder to get, which is definitely a good thing. It's supposed to be a prestigious title.
I honestly can't fathom why people are so upset over this, bug or not.
They changed the requirements to max the easiest titles in the game. I don't see why this is such a problem--they're just making KoaBD that much harder to get, which is definitely a good thing. It's supposed to be a prestigious title.
Silver Spook
Protector titles shouldnt count toward KOABD anyways or make it so that if you have all chapters masters/bonuses it count as 1 toward KOABD, same to cartography that 3 max should only get you 1 point in KOABD.
VitisVinifera
i'll tell you why: it is unethical to change the terms of something after the fact. While Gaile did make an obscur reference to some bug with a new title, she needs to come out and address this precise issue.
2 miscommunications in 2 days, the one yesterday about Paragon nerfs being either upcoming or in retrospect.
2 miscommunications in 2 days, the one yesterday about Paragon nerfs being either upcoming or in retrospect.
EdwinD
Yep, lost my KOABD tonight too.
It was a massive guild event to get me this title doing the last 3 missions of Nightfall in a row and getting masters there. So the whole guild was upset when I told them I lost my title.
And if ANet is that silly to keep it this way and thus requiring me to do all the missions again in a certain hard mode is not that bad. But as a software developer I just can't stop laughing at the very bad way this update is presented. Call it a glitch but there are better terms for this. I won't list them here. Yet...
It was a massive guild event to get me this title doing the last 3 missions of Nightfall in a row and getting masters there. So the whole guild was upset when I told them I lost my title.
And if ANet is that silly to keep it this way and thus requiring me to do all the missions again in a certain hard mode is not that bad. But as a software developer I just can't stop laughing at the very bad way this update is presented. Call it a glitch but there are better terms for this. I won't list them here. Yet...
Cass
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Holy shit.
I honestly can't fathom why people are so upset over this, bug or not. They changed the requirements to max the easiest titles in the game. I don't see why this is such a problem--they're just making KoaBD that much harder to get, which is definitely a good thing. It's supposed to be a prestigious title. |
Kakumei
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Is it so hard to see why people would be upset over suddenly losing a 'supposedly' prestigious title?
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It's a prestigious title. If you want it, you do ALL the work it takes to get it, whether those requirements change or not. This is an online game, after all--if you thought it was going to stay the same forever, you clearly have not been paying attention.
I agree that it shouldn't have been changed until Hard Mode is actually implemented, but once it is, I have no problem with them simply making Protector a two-tier title, and making me get Guardian for it to count for KoaBD--and I'm already Protector x 3.
lennymon
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Is it so hard to see why people would be upset over suddenly losing a 'supposedly' prestigious title?
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Yarly
Vitis is right, ethically you can't change the rules of a game when its already started.
That goes for anything, be it a poker game or a video game :P Yes the devs have control, but they can't play god. Thats the point here.
That goes for anything, be it a poker game or a video game :P Yes the devs have control, but they can't play god. Thats the point here.
Shanaeri Rynale
The Ernada
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Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
i'll tell you why: it is unethical to change the terms of something after the fact. While Gaile did make an obscur reference to some bug with a new title, she needs to come out and address this precise issue.
2 miscommunications in 2 days, the one yesterday about Paragon nerfs being either upcoming or in retrospect. |
Oh and they are perfectly in their rights to change the terms of something as insignificant as a title.
Scummyer
So, is it possible to start this 'Hard Mode' yet?
Kakumei
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Originally Posted by Yarly
Vitis is right, ethically you can't change the rules of a game when its already started.
That goes for anything, be it a poker game or a video game :P Yes the devs have control, but they can't play god. Thats the point here. |
Rahl
But they made the mistake of changing the requirements for a title that you already achieved. That was just wrong.
Kakumei
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But they made the mistake of changing the requirements for a title that you already achieved. That was just wrong.
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They're going to change it back to please all of you, but I really can't see why. It'll just make PKM as meaningless as KoaBD.
TyrianFury
Back in the day of Prophecies before factions it was actualy tricky to get the bonus on all missions. Dunes ring a bell anyone, a good group for Glint and THK. Granted as players get more experienced things seem easier but look at it from the view of a Guild Wars novice. New to the game and hundreds if hours ahead of him/her to get max titles and Koabd. I feel the title was fine the way it was. GW as a game is getting on a bit now and more of these titles are showing up as the vetran gw players stick with the game as each chapter comes out.
Besides it may seem an 'easy title title', protector but infact it take dozens of hours to get so why cant it be maxed? In addition there are loads of stupid titles in the game which are near or in soem cases impossible to max so why not have an 'easy' one for a change?
Title either require ridiculous hours of gameplay or in game gold, nice to have some which require you to play the actual game.
This hard mode is a joke. As I said masters or bonus is the hard mode. Elite missions anyone, heard of DoA, the Deep etc?
Oh and If you have actual mapped all 3 continents you will know just how hard koabd is to get.
Besides it may seem an 'easy title title', protector but infact it take dozens of hours to get so why cant it be maxed? In addition there are loads of stupid titles in the game which are near or in soem cases impossible to max so why not have an 'easy' one for a change?
Title either require ridiculous hours of gameplay or in game gold, nice to have some which require you to play the actual game.
This hard mode is a joke. As I said masters or bonus is the hard mode. Elite missions anyone, heard of DoA, the Deep etc?
Oh and If you have actual mapped all 3 continents you will know just how hard koabd is to get.
Sub Frost
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Since its a bug, i don't think people should be that worried, just let them fix it.
Regarding hard mode, just hope it brings more fun to the pve missions, the title it will provide isn't that important(for me at least)
Yagyu_Jyubei
erm.am I the only one but did anyone else notice in the tyrian protector description all 50 missions? I suppose its a bug but 25 new tyrian missions would sure as hell refresh prophecies campaign lol...but it's a glitch IMO
Kakumei
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Back in the day of Prophecies before factions it was actualy tricky to get the bonus on all missions. Dunes ring a bell anyone, a good group for Glint and THK.
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The Protector titles are, without a doubt, the easiest titles to get. By far. I don't really see the problem with making them a little closer to the time/energy it takes to get the others.
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Elite missions are elite missions. That has nothing to do with the case at hand.
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I am fully in favor of making us achieve Guardian in order to count for a KoaBD point.
Gli
What's wrong with giving people who manage to get 5 'easy' titles a single rank of KoaBD? There's higher ranks for greater accomplishments.
Kakumei
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What's wrong with giving people who manage to get 5 'easy' titles a single rank of KoaBD? There's higher ranks for greater accomplishments.
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uberpwnage
I would fall in love with ANet if they made hard mode simply harder for the max-level missions and made all the below-level-20 missions standardized.
Imagine it, being able to play the Ascalon missions and have fun while not 1 hitting everything...
Imagine it, being able to play the Ascalon missions and have fun while not 1 hitting everything...