Pre-searing Uniques? Can it be?!

Hmmm.... I can't wait to see:

Guildmaster Cain: I'm wielding a Charr Bag!


No seriously... it is as crap as minipets that can't be shown in towns. NOBODY sees your bag. Only people buying this stuff are the people that bought their platinum on internet, then bought that 2 mill Crytalline Sword, FoW Armor and the Torment Shield with the complementary Bonedragon. Generally I kick these people from my parties, since I know they are just for the show. You rather have a charismatic knight in shining armor which aggros everyone due to his incompetence or the battlehardened warrior with the dulled armor who actually knows the weaknesses and strength of his opposing classes, since he also spend time playing as them?

But I don't mind them buying it from me, but it's just a novelty item and the price will drop as hard as the interest in them.

It's not a novelty item if you are planning to keep your character in pre - it's almost a necessity.

But, if you are planning to move your character into post, then I agree. Don't waste your money buying one.

Yeah, having an option to earn it w/o death-levelling would be nice.

Here's a thought...

I've never understood why the xp gained zeros out after a six level difference. What wold be cool is if, when you reach that point, you only gained 1 xp point from every monster killed.

It's still be a grind, but possibly more rewarding than leaving your character afk for 4-8 hours while a strider or moss spider kills it several hundred times. in a row.

And if one xp point is too much, how about .5 points, or .25, etc.

I hope your name truly emphasises your true feelings on this matter.

1xp per kill?

I'd sooner death-level than suffer that kind of grind... The notion of cutting my way through several thousand enemies per level.... >_<;

Well you would probably still be able to death level if you wanted, even with such a change. But those who wanted to try, for example, to get survivor and defender, they would have the option. They would have to be masochists, to be sure. But it would be another option.

You sound too much of a hater to me... lol Now we can show minipets in towns :P

Anyways, this bag is a nice addition to pre-searing. I wish they can add a few green weapons too tho.

My wife & I did about 10-12 boss-killing runs last night and got one bag between us. Factor that by how many times people going for LDoA are likely to kill the bosses and I figure the pre-searing market will have plenty of Charr Bags available within a short period of time, and prices should reflect that.

No, I was serious. I think it'd be a nice option.

Actually this is the ONLY green EVER that actually serves a utilitarian function, that cannot be duplicated by any other item (at least in Pre).



Wow, somebody needs a reality check. Another angry person who thinks it takes ebaying to make a few million gold. By the way I don't think anyone is buying gold off the internet in order to buy a 5k-10k item.




Personally I think the bags are a great, and long awaited, addition for those of us who keep a character in Pre. Sadly in the 7 solo runs (28 bosses) I’ve made since these came out I haven’t gotten a single bag.

While the possibility of being stuck before level 20 is present, I don't even think about attempt that title, as far as I know is IMPOSSIBLE gain level 20 without doing "tricks" if you prefer that word instead of "exploit"; IMO is better add the possibility of gain level 20 not easy but just playing the game, without "tricks" not originally designed for that purpose.

Ha, reminds me of the South Park, WoW episode, where they have to kill around 2-3 millions boars to reach level 60.

So you usually kick people from your party if they have fancy armor or expensive weapons? If someone mentioned they had a charr bag, would you kick them as well?

As strange as this might sound... sound people actually "earn" it.

i just got an idea for the lvl 20 in pre thing why not add more map and harder foes(the map wont hurt a title b/c it dont count in pre) it would be hard to get to but interesting

Between last night and today I earned 1000 pnts over the wall and got 5 bags. Given that I will need a total of more than 10,000 points to get to lvl 16, I should have about 50 of those bags by the time I'm done - not exactly a rare item.

so would we get something special in Post-Searing too? Like another green bag?

Doesn't even need that, to be honest. If LDoA exists, I don't think you should have to death level to reach it. I mean, come on, how is a hero who spent his time dying over and over and over again considered either legendary or a defender?

Why not actually facilitate LDoA? Add one of two things to pre-searing Ascalon:

1. A single Level 20 Charr Boss, tucked away in The Northlands.
2. A repeatable quest "Prove Your Mettle", which would be obtainable from Rurik on completion of all other presear quests, would require you to go north of the wall and kill the existing four Charr Bosses to prove your worth before joining Rurik's party. This quest would offer a 250 XP reward.

Either way would allow legitimate completion of the LDoA title, as well as the possibility of the Survivor title, and would actually consist of legendary actions in defence of Ascalon!

I'm sure those that have (or nearly have) the LDoA title would say 'Rawr, I did it the hard way!' but these solutions would mean while XP could be earned faster, you would in fact need to be at the screen fighting for the entire time, instead of asleep while you get repeatedly smooshed by a Strider or Charr.

Either that or change the title to Legendary Coffin-filler of Ascalon :P

ROFL!! That's a good one.

I'd love to be able to obtain both LDoA and the Survivor title. If possible I'd also like the ability to display both at once. Something like if you have both titles, you get a new title called "Legendary Survivor of Ascalon"

Well, anyone that is going for the Holy Lightbringer Title has to kill 25,000 monsters at least and have a bounty for it. So there is precedent for this type of endless grind.

Um its not a photoshop....

QFT and /signed a thousand times over!! lol

First off, I know its been confirmed a million times already but I can also vouch for the fact that this item is real. I have 2 of them on my level 17 ele in pre.

No, its not crap. People who plan to stay in pre for a while, such as those going for LDoA now get some extra much needed storage. While I agree that minipets are crap, some people like them and having them in the game isn't doing anyone any harm, so why complain? (P.S - minipets CAN be shown in town now )

Yes because everyone who has expensive items/armor bought the gold off the internet. Oh wise one, how did you make this discovery? Please enlighten us with more of your wisdom, oh wise one.

Like I said before its more than a novelty item. Its pretty much a must have for any character staying in pre for a while. No **** the price will drop. Thats what happens with every new item. White dye, anyone?

Its not a trick. Its game mechanics. You don't need to get the title. If you don't like the game mechanics required to get it then guess what...... don't get it. Who'd of thought it was that easy....

And synch entering RA with friends makes you a Terrifying Gladiator? Sitting afk on a ring makes you lucky? /roll 100 makes you a Triumphant Commander? Drinking and then zoning for 2-3 hours makes you a Incorrigible Ale-Hound?

Now I'm not about the dismiss the idea of having easier ways to get LDoA, however one thing I will say, is that having the ability to get LDoA + survivor on the same character is not fair. Basically this means that only the original 6 characters can get a "1-up" title for KOABD. Right now, you can make a factions/nf and get survivor to get a "1-up", or make a prophecies and get either survivor OR LDoA to get a "1-up". However, if it became possible to get LDoA AND Survivor on the same character, it would give prophecies characters 2 "1-ups", which would be unfair. Wanna have the max amount of titles maxed for whatever level of koabd on a sin/rit/derv/para? Tough luck, you can only do it on prophecies characters. The way it is now is fine, because it gives all characters from all campaigns and equal chance.


While there is a lot of afk time, you do have to do the char setup, which can take 20-30 mins per setup, as well as getting to level 16 (you have to d-level to get experience beyond 16). That being said I'm still not about to dismiss the idea of an easier way to get LDoA. Just make sure you can't get survivor+LDoA on the same character.

Legender Coffin-filler of Ascalon is a much cooler title. If they changed it to that I might actually consider d-leveling again on my ele to get that title. I'm being serious too...

If they made an easy way of getting the LDOA title it would be worthless, people like it now because its hard to get, it annoys me every time i see someone saying they wish a certain title was easier so they could get it, if the title was easier then it would just be as common the all the other simple titles like drunkard and cartographer.

QFT. Hey, why not just add a button to the game. When you click that button it instantly gives you every title maxed. That would own so much, right guys....?

/signed.
i agree.

not starting the debate on its fair or unfair. Or starting the i want it easy because i cant make it. In fact i am almost there after hours of death leveling.

BUT i dont think you should not be able to get one title just because you got another. i dont care how hard it is or how long it takes. if i cant make it because i dont have the skill thats my prob. but i would like the chance to get it.

Some thing I would mind however, is the possibility to get both Survivor and Legendary Defender of Ascalon (Pre-Searing would probably be full of people going for KOABD). I also think 250xp is already too much, seeing I kill all 4 bosses in 5 minutes. I want a quest that takes 40 minutes, and only get you like 100xp, so that it's still hard to get, but at least possible without having to deathlevel.