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Wretchman Drake

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

I for one am trying to aim getting a SKillz title and eventually want Über Micro Skillz (5) but it'll take forever at the rate the rewarding system is going for the RollerBeetle Racing. 7 for 1st palce, 5 for 2nd, 3 for 3rd, 2 for 4th, and 1 for 5th and 6th... Something tells me this doesn't seem right.

I spent roughly 5 hours (with little breaks in between) racing, and accumulated 140 or so tokens and barley 150 Gamer Points. The title I want is 12,000 points. Hell, (1) requires 1000. How can you achieve something like that when the oppurtunities are only weekend based??? Not everyone likes to stay glued to their computers during a weekend, and even if you did it would take way too long to the point where Guild Wars would probably die out before you can get access to such a title...

I think they need to add more points for the race seeing how we don't have many oppurtunities for these points. This is a title that deserves just as much attention as any other title.

A possible suggestion:

1st place = 50 points (7 Lunar Tokens)
2nd place = 25 points (5 Lunar Tokens)
3rd place = 10 points (3 Lunar Tokens)
4th place = 5 points (4 Lunar Tokens)
5 & 6th place = 2 points (1 Lunar Token)

This would make the title actually possible to achieve and IT STILL requires quite some racing grind. Either that or keep the minigame with the same point system permanently. But even then that's tough.

And please don't come in telling me I "just suck" at races. I've gotten 1st place quite a few times and I would win more if the lagspikes weren't so horrid.

I really like the race game, but the point system isn't quite fair.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

The points are fine imo...you can't expect ANet to hand you over the title on a silver platter, and you can't expect to get Uber Micro Skillz overnight. 50 points for win, that's way too much. If you want a title, earn it. If you have to grind for it, grind for it. If you don't want to grind for it, then don't.

Meat Axe

Meat Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Brisbane, Australia

R/

I agree that there's nothing wrong with the points system. You obviously have never gone for Legendary defender of ascalon... God, now I'm imagining what that would be like if you could only work on it over special events.

Anyway, at least at every event there is a different game to earn gamer points. It's a lot better than the grind you have to put in for other titles. I actually want to max out this title (Hell, I wanna max out all titles), but I don't mind taking my time at it. All titles take time, otherwise you'll have a seizure, or go insane, or your brain will melt. Or a combination of those.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Meat Axe
All titles take time, otherwise you'll have a seizure, or go insane, or your brain will melt. Or a combination of those.
That's what the OP doesn't like. He wants ANet to hand him the titles on a silver platter.

Wretchman Drake

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

Arkantos, you don't get it, do you? You obviously haven't been trying to achieve gamer points from this event, now have you?

"I think they need to add more points for the race seeing how we don't have many oppurtunities for these points."

The Wintersday point system was completely fair, but this...

One weekend to grind for not even 1000 points? I doubt Guild Wars will still be around for another 12 holiday events. Let's get real. Either they add a permanent way of achieving them at a fairly slow rate or boost the points during the SMALL time they're here. I grinded alot yesterday for them and didn't even get 200 so don't tell me I can't work for it if you don't know what I'm talking about, k thx.

holababe

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

Mo/

Yeah, I got 250 points from Wintersday, just doing a few casual snowball fights a day over a period of a week. If I do the same thing for Racing I'll get ~15 Gamer points a day.

cellardweller

cellardweller

Likes naked dance offs

Join Date: Aug 2005

The Older Gamers [TOG]

The problem isn't that it takes time, its that they don't give you said time.

Wretchman Drake

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by cellardweller
The problem isn't that it takes time, its that they don't give you said time.
THANK YOU!!! THIS IS what I was trying to get at!

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

The real problem is, you earn points MUCH slower doing this then you did during snowball arenas.
It should be increased to be equitable.

LifesRestorer

LifesRestorer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2007

London, England

Mo/

snowball fights = around 10m or something like that. 1 win, which wasnt very hard = 10 points

beetle racing, takes 5 mins per race. IF you come first, which is very hard to do, you get 7... seeing as this event is only for 4 days also, you have no hope in hell of getting the title. not even lv1

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
The points are fine imo...you can't expect ANet to hand you over the title on a silver platter, and you can't expect to get Uber Micro Skillz overnight. 50 points for win, that's way too much. If you want a title, earn it. If you have to grind for it, grind for it. If you don't want to grind for it, then don't.
The problem with that is that the event is not open for anywhere near long enough of at time to grind for it.

Since the event is only for a few days and there is no time to grind for any semi-high version of the title, (ie: 3 or higher), the gamer point rewards should indeed be way higher.

/signed

Wretchman Drake

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

Well since Anet ruined this event's oppurtunities for the points I can only hope they do MUCH better during the upcoming Dragon Festival (next holiday event coming).

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake
Arkantos, you don't get it, do you? You obviously haven't been trying to achieve gamer points from this event, now have you?

"I think they need to add more points for the race seeing how we don't have many oppurtunities for these points."

The Wintersday point system was completely fair, but this...

One weekend to grind for not even 1000 points? I doubt Guild Wars will still be around for another 12 holiday events. Let's get real. Either they add a permanent way of achieving them at a fairly slow rate or boost the points during the SMALL time they're here. I grinded alot yesterday for them and didn't even get 200 so don't tell me I can't work for it if you don't know what I'm talking about, k thx.
*Wonders if he spent 5 straight hours rollerbeetle racing for tokens, not gamer points.*

Yeah, I did try to get gamer points this weekend. But have you ever thought rollerbeetle races weren't meant for you to grind 1,000 gamer points? I grinded 239 gamer points in that 5 hours so I know what you're talking about.

Quote:
beetle racing, takes 5 mins per race.
It actually takes 3 minutes, and it usually ends before that 3 minutes.

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

/signed

Raced like crazy with the beetles and only have about 180 gamer points. 50 points for first place may be a bit high (I'd have about 500-600 points if that was the case), maybe a little lower.

leeky baby

leeky baby

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Surrey University

Starting to play again... need a guild

W/E

the snowball event was the way to go :P

eggs0wn

eggs0wn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

/notsigned

The Gamer Title is NOT meant to get during one weekend. That is why you can only obtain the points during special events. I got Tier I in the Gamer Title during Wintersday and I got about 200 points this time. I don't really care if I max out the title but I will probally get Tier II or III by the time I stop playing GW. It is fine how it is. Aside from the Protector of X Title, you can't get any title in one weekend, why make this one so easy to get.


Btw, I 100% agree with Arkantos.

Wretchman Drake

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

I'm not saying get it in one weekend, but it was impossible to get the 1st rank from this weekend when there's about 7 ranks. And did you EVER think maybe people have lives to attend to during weekends or they cannot make certain festivals? Every other title you have all the time in the world to do so except this one...

Every oppurtunity I get I try to grind gamer points but this weekend was terrible for that when Gaile promised it was a good oppurtunity to...

eggs0wn

eggs0wn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wretchman Drake
I'm not saying get it in one weekend, but it was impossible to get the 1st rank from this weekend

Contradiction ftL.

Edit: And yes people do have lives during the weekend, your right. I travel constantly for sports. When the Gamer Title was introduced we had like 12ish days. I was away on vacation for 7 days and was gone all day for 2 days for a sports tournament. That leaves me with 3ish days (forgot how long Wintersday exactly was) And I got the title. Now I don't sit at my computer all day and throw snowballs. The longest I play is from 8pm-11:30ish.pm because I can't fall asleep earlier. And this title is unique because of that fact you can't work towards it whenever you want. That makes it special and the people who have it worked for it. Not everyone should have it. Hey, not everyone has a Mini Panda.

Wretchman Drake

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

I'm saying it was impossible to get the 1st rank from this weekend because it's not fair how this weekend you couldn't but the Wintersday event you could possibly even reach rank 5 with enough work grinded into it.

BahamutKaiser

BahamutKaiser

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Heightened state of mind.

P/W

Wow, I can't believe someone had the gaul to say "grind for it".

If it involves grind it doesn't belong in GW, it should involve skill and reward effectively for success, simple GW guideline.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
I'm saying it was impossible to get the 1st rank from this weekend because it's not fair how this weekend you couldn't but the Wintersday event you could possibly even reach rank 5 with enough work grinded into it.
It's not impossible to get rank 1 within the weekend. 333 points a day is very possible. If you don't want to grind rank 1 this weekend, you don't have to. Wait until the next event and grind some more.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by BahamutKaiser
Wow, I can't believe someone had the gaul to say "grind for it".

If it involves grind it doesn't belong in GW, it should involve skill and reward effectively for success, simple GW guideline.
Oy...no. Guild Wars was advertised as not requiring grind to become as powerful as someone who plays for 1000 hours more than you. That's fine and excellent, and has nothing to do with titles, which are (for the most part) ALL ABOUT grind. Drunkard/sweet tooth anyone? Treasure hunter/collector of wisdom?

That said, the OP is right; points for this title come in way too slowly. Arkantos, you said it yourself, 239 points in 5 hours. At that rate, it would take over 250 hours to get lvl 5 in the skillz title...which would be absolutely fine, IF someone could actually gain/grind points continuously. It'd be a very nice challenge, and a good way to show off your dedication to minigames. However, as-is, you only get opportunities to spend time getting this title every 2-4 months or so. Assuming you could spend...maybe 10 hours a weekend JUST grinding these points, which really is a lot of frickin time for one game in a festival, at this rate it would take 25 weekends to get lvl5...and since the weekends are on average 3 months apart, it would take about 6 years to get the title.

Something seems wrong with that, no?

Nickhimself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Your face

True Gods Of War [True]

W/Mo

Sweet Tooth is the most joke of a title the game has sever seen, you shouldn't even bring it up.

This title, can literally be maxed from 0 points in 5 minutes. If you have a keyboard like mine, the G15, you can make a macro that double clicks where your mouse is - Set that to 'toggle' and put your mouse over a stack of red bean cakes or another sweet. You will see the stack disappear in about 2 seconds. If you have enough sweets on you, you can fill the entire track in no time at all.

This title sucks.


Gamer Points REALLY DO need more ways to be achieved. Period. If you don't agree, you play all day long and think other people can do the same / want to do the same.

Eldin

Eldin

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

America. How about you, commie?

Fellows of Mythgar [FOM]

R/Mo

I find the events such as the racing and snowball fights to be full of sportsmanship. Unlike PvP where, let's say, someone forgets to bring res "ZOMG YOU ****IN NUB GTFO!!!". In the holiday events, people are always wishing each other good luck and never yelling.

As such, as I stated in my first post, I see no reason for a considerable buff in points, though a small boost would be nice.

...and I agree with eggs - if a title could be acquired in one weekend, then it can't be worthwhile. It should be like the explorer titles which take time - playing through the prophecies campaign will net you about 50-65% (at least in all my characters' cases), and then one would go back and work hard to find the remaining nooks and crannies. The gamer title should be similar, it sholdn't be like "playing through it" a few times will net you a title.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

Difference between being able to "play through" to get a high title, and it taking the insane amount of time to get that I outlined in my post, JUST because the events are so spread out. No matter how hard a player works, they can't do anything about the 2 month (~) breaks in gameplay.

eggs0wn

eggs0wn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

That ^ is what makes the title unique. I don't want to see everyone walking around with it. And for christ's sake, you do NOT need to sit at your computer all day to get the title.

Wretchman Drake

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

Oh, boy... Here we go again...

It's obvious this event was terrible at giving out Gamer Points. I'm not saying they should make it easy so I can achieve Rank (1) in ONE sitting, but I grinded through alot of racing this weekend and barley got close to that. It's not fair this event was terrible at giving gamer points when Wintersday scoring system was much better. Why should the WIntersday have better scoring system than any other event?

lexisus

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

N/Mo

/signed

Why? While I think the points distribution during the Wintersday festival was OK, for some reason A-Net chose to lower the points earned during this event, which also ran during a shorter time-period. (it was slower/harder grinding gamer-points during this event than during the Wintersday, no point arguing that)

However, seeing how many points is really needed for even getting close to the higher ranks, I sincerely hope they'll consider making the rewards a little better for the coming events! And thus it's signed

eggs0wn

eggs0wn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Maybe Anet thought Wintersday gave out too many Gamer Points and they didn't want everybody running around with "Skillz (1)" under there name. Maybe they don't want someone to get a new Tier of the Title every event. Maybe they wanted players to recieve a low amount of points so getting the title is an ongoing process.

Wretchman Drake

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

So what, 3 events to get 1 tier at a time? I doubt someone will get a high rank tier then before Guild Wars is over.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

I just tried the game, without playing much (one or two games for each) and I have more than 50 points.

A game title should be for tho who play games.
You want it? Play more!

Alanus

Alanus

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

USA

Sasquatch Carrot Slingers [FooT]

R/Me

So you raced twice? You can get 14 points if you finish 1st in those 2 runs. I don't think you know how difficult it was in comparison to the Wintersday Event.