Regional Minipets

milan

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

BONE

N/

I just took the time to look through the wiki Mini pet listings and was fairly suprised by what I saw.

Though the Gray Giant was available to the US and most of Europe via the Magazine voucher code I found a rather alarming disparity when it comes to the Japanese/Taiwan minipet numbers.

To make it nice and simple:

Special Regional Minipets for US and Europe = 1 (Grey Giant)
Special Regional Minipets for Taiwan and Japan = 6 (Panda, Long haired Yeti, Oni, Naga Raincaller, Kanaxi and Island Guardian).

While I'm aware that one of these was awarded only for GvG achievements it does seem to be a little out of order that the numbers don't add up. If this is some sort of carrot to the Far East to try and lure their gamers into GW, should it happen at the expense of the European and US gamers?

Coridan

Coridan

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

US

Old Married Gamers {OMG}

W/

i agree that its TOTAL BS....but i can see how it may be intended to draw players to the game...

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

All mini pets that were REGIONAL will be offered to other regions in the future. Gaile already said that some time ago. >.>

Savio

Savio

Teenager with attitude

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by milan
If this is some sort of carrot to the Far East to try and lure their gamers into GW, should it happen at the expense of the European and US gamers?
What expense did the European/US gamers pay so that Asian territories could get limited-edition minipets?

Warmaster Patton

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Insanity

Vis Decus Vertus [vDv]

R/

It's a mini pet, I have 3, 2 are special (a pig and grey giant) and 1 is normal from my "birthday". I don't really care if other regions get more, I only have my 3 because I was opening Fortunes, I get PC GAMER every month, and I've a character for a year. I'm not going to buy one (well, if Bone Dragons go down I will be...) and I don't really care if other places get more.

milan

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

BONE

N/

Savio. I thought I'd explained this with the number disparity, however I'll qualify further.

1) If the Asian regions are getting more because of the lack of players or the competitiveness of the market over there as opposed to the US/EU where GW seems to have a fairly stable community then we're paying the price of it.

2) If I wanted to be really pedantic I could ask, do the asian regions have their own designers, coders and builders?

Kamikazechicken. I seem to have missed that, if that's the case then it totally invalidates everything I've said. Any chance you could let me know roughly when it was said and I can look for it in gail chats and forum posts.

Let me be clear here, I'm not all that bothered about mini pets myself, I've got a couple I kept and gave away the rest however there does seem to be a pattern emerging with these kind of items that are made available in the Asian regions and I'm not sure why they aren't being offered to the rest of us.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Actually, the number of those asian ones is signifcantly less (ie, only a few hundred of most of them).

Even if there were 6 more different types of mini pets, there are probablly more grey giants out there then those 6 combined. By that logic, Japan and Twain should be the ones complaining.

Brother Andicus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Scotland

The Illuminati

Favour of the Gods can be won in the Hall of Heros

Favour of anet always has and will belong to Korea

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

Korea has no exclusive minipets.

Europe and the US got the mini grey giant and divine aura which is far more common than the select few Japanese ones.

And Japan never gets favour, so the world is balanced

Meat Axe

Meat Axe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2007

Brisbane, Australia

R/

Alright, think about this one. What about people who live outside the US, Europe and Asia? Like Australia and New Zealand. We get no special offers. I couldn't get the Iron Giant, simply because I'm not gonna keep track of when the magazines get released over here. It's usually anything up to a year or two. Sure, I could have ordered it from overseas, or bought it off ebay, but since the only reason I'd want the magazine is for the code, I wouldn't want to buy a second hand one since the code could have been used. And I didn't want to pay for a subscription just to get one issue.

So, in other words, STOP COMPLAINING! You guys have it better off than us down in the middle of nowhere.

holababe

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

Mo/

@Meat Axe

Two things
- It's a Gray Giant, not an Iron Giant
- The magazine was out last November (06) and then they reran it because of a printing error. I bought both copies of the mag so I have a spare code. PM me and I'll give it to you.

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

k so the west get pandas from comp for example

currently they sell for like 200 ectos

the west + asia get them so 81 exist instead of 65 (i think numbers are right).

even if the pandas go to 100ectos who will be able to afford to buy them???

the rich is the answer

o noes the rich get mini pets which no poor person can ever hope to get. o noes how unfair of anet to do that. discrimination at its best.


the above says it all.

uberpwnage

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken
All mini pets that were REGIONAL will be offered to other regions in the future. Gaile already said that some time ago. >.>
Yeahh... That's almost an oxymoron.

The question isn't WILL; it's WHEN.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by uberpwnage
The question isn't WILL; it's WHEN.
Quote:
Originally Posted by milan
Kamikazechicken. I seem to have missed that, if that's the case then it totally invalidates everything I've said.
Learn2Read?


Milan: I don't know when it was said. I don't even know whether it was a Guru post or an in-game log. Sorry.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

I remember seeing it too; if you can pinpoint when we started hearing about the panda and kanaxai minipets you can probably find it in a post from around the same time.

Maxiemonster

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

I wouldn't mind a Panda though, those rock!

We'll probably get them soon though, they'll probably all be in the 2nd anniverary (seeing Gaile promised they'd show up in European/American districts someday, and I doubt she was talking about trading).

Grasping Darkness

Grasping Darkness

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

I have always seen the minis issue as quite odd and notice anets favortism to other contries and leaves their own left behind and thats cool..whatever..NF was the last thing I ever bought from this company.
It isnt just the minis its weapons also and im sure theres more...wierd wierd wierd

edited to add realism: I was having a bad day when i made this post and I'm sure that when the new chapters released I will be in line to buy it on the day of release. QQ less more ME plz

lursey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

d2

R/N

I don't think it will be panda,

usually when they release a series, there will be only 1 green, and 2 gold mini.

and we have already seen the one of the golds, which is the piggy, therefore, it probably will not be panda and kanaxai, I think

gameguy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Taiwan

kanaxai=8(japan)+16(taiwan)
panda=16(japan)+49+61+10(2007/03)(taiwan)
island guardians=24(japan)+50+61(taiwan)
oni=250(japan)+61(taiwan)
naga,yeti=250(japan)+250+61(taiwan)

ps. The GW Player is very,very,very^very rare in Taiwan,HK(maybe less 1000)= =|||

ps1. The correct number is on GW Server (update finally )

Lonesamurai

Lonesamurai

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

Cheltenham, Glos, UK

Wolf Pack Samurai [WPS]

R/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by gameguy
The GW Player is very,very,very^very rare in Taiwan,HK(maybe less 1000)= =|||
Although Taiwan has been harrasing Europe and America and trying and even succeding to take hall of Heroes recently, although its rare for them to hold it more than one match

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lonesamurai
Although Taiwan has been harrasing Europe and America and trying and even succeding to take hall of Heroes recently, although its rare for them to hold it more than one match
Granted, the team of players who usually hold halls for Taiwan are actually French.
Just like Wee Free Men who win for Japan are actually British.

Nkah Sennyt

Nkah Sennyt

Awaken from hiatus.

Join Date: Apr 2006

Riding the spiral.

No Fun Allowed [Vdya]

I want a panda. o_o

VanDamselx

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Buffalo, NY

[TTBH]

I don't see what the big deal is since they are just mini pets. Oh well.

The Herbalizer

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by booooYA
I don't see what the big deal is since they are just mini pets. Oh well.
Haves and have nots.

Its not like we cant even own them. You can buy them, I have seen every single one of them, Panda, Kanaxi etc all for sale on the American servers.

Ferret

Ferret

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
Haves and have nots.

Its not like we cant even own them. You can buy them, I have seen every single one of them, Panda, Kanaxi etc all for sale on the American servers.
Personally i think ALL mini-pets shoudl be available to ALL players. There should be no special 'regional' treatment. It's only fair and non-bias.

Yes, you can buy them, but due to their 'regional' availability, they are at silly prices beyond the means of most and far above their worth.

Any player of GW should have the same chance of getting any mini-pet that is available as a birthday present, no matter their country of origin.

MirkoTeran

MirkoTeran

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Slovenia

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/

Not this again...

Quote:
they are at silly prices beyond the means of most and far above their worth.
Haves and have nots all over again... Please read this thread: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10022148

Quote:
Any player of GW should have the same chance of getting any mini-pet that is available as a birthday present, no matter their country of origin.
It does. This thread is about minipets that are not offered as birthday gifts but as special gift.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Actually, I like the idea of regional minipets like the panda. I also like the idea of incredibly rare minipets. But, I agree that they should be a little more evened out. Give America and Europe some more, different minipets, equally rare.

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

They are just mini-pets... do people really care that much for them?

taffette

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sunny ol' Manchester

The Trumpet Blowers

R/

Was in Kamadan last night when Gaile Grey made an appearance and suggested there may be a froggy minipet somewhere in the future...

Ferret

Ferret

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MirkoTeran
It does. This thread is about minipets that are not offered as birthday gifts but as special gift.
I thought they were birthday gifts, my bad. How do Asian players get these then?

As for haves and have nots, it's a pointless conversation. I have lots, been playing a while and still think that in a game when the max you can carry is 100k, then nothing should cost more than that (even though i am guilty of selling one item for more in my 20 months of playing), end of conversation.

Still, i'd be interested to know how these mini's are gained...is it a collectors edition thing?

Thanks,

Ferret.

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Miniatu..._of_Miniatures

Ferret

Ferret

Elite Guru

Join Date: Jul 2005

England

Ferrets Unity of Rogues (FUR)

R/Mo

They got the Naga, Longhair and Oni as a netcafe promo...oh that's off. We should definately have got a shot at the purple Asian mini-pets in a similar promo (like the Grey Giant which sucks by comparison).

As for the Panda and co...seems fair that these are special, but should have been a chance for non-Asian players to 'win' these too.

Etta

Etta

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Mancland, British Empire

They just mini pets! They don't do anything for you, they don't cook, don't pick up your drop, don't body block or make anyone trip over them.

Useless I say,.....and I want them all! Gimme Gimme!

The5thSeraph

The5thSeraph

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2007

...... I wouldn't mind a pet Oni...

But what I really want is.... a mini....

... [wiki]Mungri Magicbox[/wiki]!! ^_^

I'd pay through the roof for a Mungri Magicbox Mini-Pet... complete with blue glow...

And I wish I could dye / change Kuunavang to look like [wiki]Star Ancient Koosun[/wiki] (complete with mini stream of health numbers to mimic Sliver Armor)... FTW.

J3mo

J3mo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

NL

Please contact the Administrator if your date of birth has changed.

Mo/

I smell jealousy, anyways, atleast we got favor...

Warmaster Patton

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Insanity

Vis Decus Vertus [vDv]

R/

We need a mini Gaile!

Niioma

Niioma

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

Netherlands

Mentally Retarded [iDum]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Warmaster Patton
We need a mini Gaile!
You just want her for your own .. dont you.. you pervert!

Just kidding...

Totally agree about the japanese and europe Mini-pets... Why do they get all those exclusives...

I guess we just have to wait...

Carmina

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

Cleveland, Ohio

His Divine Shadow

R/Mo

Don't forget about the Coke promotional weapons...

Ellington

Ellington

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

South Carolina

Sons of Zeus [ZEUS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken
All mini pets that were REGIONAL will be offered to other regions in the future. Gaile already said that some time ago. >.>
"The future" is where Anet's promises go to die.

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

I have answered this before. I'd like to not answer it again, so please give this a good read, and refer people to this in the future, when the whole things starts up again.

We occasionally have region-specific offers, prizes, or opportunities. There are no pre-orders in Asia, but they were available in Europe and North America. There were Coke items in Korea, and not anywhere else. There were items offered in conjuction with release of the game in Taiwan and/or Japan. The Gray Giant did not make it to Asia. The GvG prizes did not make it to NA and Europe, yet. PvP Packs are not available in Asia, nor, I believe, are character slots.

Sometimes the items make it into other regions eventually, like through a special edition box or some other means. Sometimes they don't. It's not a case of regional preference or special treatment or trying to lure people to buy the game. It's a case of meeting the various needs of the different communities, or doing unique things to support them that are available at a particular time.

As I said in a visit recently, I have learned that I may be able to get my mitts on a small number of the miniatures that were used for GvG prizes in the Japanese tournament. If so, I'll use them for prizes for community contests that we hold in the future and that will assure their availability to players in regions outside of the original distribution point.

I hope that answers the questions and assures you that no one is being excluded or under-served.