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Yunas Ele

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

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18 Feb 2007 at 01:44 - 1

So I was bored and browsing through youtube when I stumbled upon this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYWXs...elated&search=

The player finishes pre-searing in 5 minutes. So then it got me thinking. Has anyone actually do a whole speed run through the entire guild wars? Any of the campaigns? Like for prophecies, from making your character in pre-searing to finishing Hell's Precipice.

And before anyone says "oh this game is way too long to speed run", people have done speed runs for a lot of long games. The final fantasy and legend of zelda series come to mind. There are tons of speed run attempts at various games in those series (and some of those games are longer than gw).

Personally I don't have the patience to play through a game hundreds of times to find the absolute quickest way to beat it and how to cut off time each attempt. But some people do and then make videos off it and I (and many others) enjoy watching these videos....

So ya, has anyone speed run'd guild wars before? If not, anyone up for the challenge?

Of course there would have to be some restrictions on it like not getting run (you can run yourself though) and can't get higher level people to help you (because that would just make it pointless). Only allowed to use hench/hero or something.... So uh... discuss!

Warmaster Patton

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Insanity

Vis Decus Vertus [vDv]

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18 Feb 2007 at 01:50 - 2

Discussion: Run'd is not a word, ran is.

Seems interesting, but it would take a few days to beat the whole thing, and I'm not watching a video that flippin long.

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

18 Feb 2007 at 01:51 - 3

Ive seen a couple of those videos, zelda i think was the one that was the sickest, watching someone finish Zelda:MM in 3hrs, really crazy considering the average time, the problem with GW is defining "outside help", you said no runners allowed, but if you are going thru the missions you will have party members unless its 100% hench, so what would be defined as being dragged thru in a mission and doing it as a part of team.

The Herbalizer

<3 Ecto

Join Date: Jul 2005

18 Feb 2007 at 01:54 - 4

if you got same lvl guildies/friends to help you on missions and other stuff it would speed it up but be a pain to organise with little benefit to them.

random players would mean longer times as they use builds and items not best suited to certain stuff.

imo it would be too time consuming and tedious for anyone to compete against others to get fastest time.

Deleet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Denmark

Rule Thirty Four [prOn]

Mo/

18 Feb 2007 at 02:02 - 5

With running: Need about 3 warriors, 1 ele, 1 necro and 2 monks.
Finish pre searing
Run to Drognars, buy max armor
Run to Thunerhead Keep
Buy some useful skills @ Dakk.
Do the quest @ ring of fire, remember to cap any elites if the chance arrises, need exp. Use Exp. scrolls.
Do Ring of Fire.
Do Abaddon's Mouth.
Do Hell's Precipe. Done.

Without running it would take too long time, but if you don't record it, you can just do /age. It would take ages if you're restricted to hencies though.

Yunas Ele

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

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18 Feb 2007 at 02:09 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warmaster Patton

Discussion: Run'd is not a word, ran is.

Seems interesting, but it would take a few days to beat the whole thing, and I'm not watching a video that flippin long.

Ya sorry, I wasn't thinking. Should be ran, my bad.

It wouldn't take a few days. As it is, prophecies on my first play through was what? like 40-50 hours, thats with a lot of side quests too. I'm sure someone could cut it down to under ten. Take a game like Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. That game takes at least 50 hours just playing through it at regular pace, yet its already been speed ran at like 5 hours or something. Its also a pretty new game, so I'm sure some more time can be cut off.

Also, the videos aren't that long. Most off them are played at a "fast forward" rate, like anywhere from 2-10x the speed it is played at.

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

18 Feb 2007 at 02:35 - 7

It hardly seems worth the effort. At least with Zelda or Final Fantasy it can be pretty fun to see someone rampage through the game completing it in record time... because its purely them.

Doing in GW seems rather pointless. It wouldn't be interesting to see at all. Zelda/FF you see the character develop to be able to accomplish things at the bare minimum... here you'd see a char been ran everywhere while his team do all the work as he is completely useless. This just isn't the sort of game a speed run would be fun to see.

I mean i got Protector of Tyria on my own for every mission but Hells Precipice on my Dervish in under 24 hours. I'd say that was pretty fast. Was fun to do, least the later game missions were, but to watch? All you'd see is a dervish rampaging around with Avatar of Lyssa leeroying into mobs hoping the heros/hench could save his skin. Believe me, Abaddons Mouths start is alot more fun to rampage through than watch someone having all the fun.

Winterclaw

Wark!!!

Join Date: May 2005

Florida

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18 Feb 2007 at 03:02 - 8

If you skip the jungle missions and go from LA to SC, didn't stop to cap too much, had scrolls and money to buy skills, and ignored bonuses... you might be able to get proph done in 16 hours or less.

If you fought from ascalon and ignored all the missions until SC, maybe quicker, maybe not.

Smile Like Umean It

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/Rt

18 Feb 2007 at 03:45 - 9

You mean something like this?
http://www.lorddragonsden.com/LDDGWWR/LDDGWWR.htm

Psuedo Halgoen

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2006

GMT+10

18 Feb 2007 at 03:49 - 10

Didn't LBS used to do world tours? where they would run a character from pre-sear to the ring of fire islands? I'm fairly sure they did something along those lines.
Not sure if it fits your category of Run'd though :P

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

18 Feb 2007 at 04:44 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psuedo Halgoen

Didn't LBS used to do world tours? where they would run a character from pre-sear to the ring of fire islands? I'm fairly sure they did something along those lines.
Not sure if it fits your category of Run'd though :P

Yeah, we used to do runs like that... can't remember the fastest time though.

You would have to be more specific about the constraints for the run.

-Start in pre? that means you have a group of 4 meet up in ascalon (maybe 2 groups) and then fight/run to droks, where you would join to form a complete group.

-Can you use outside runners?

-All missions?

Draccor The Great

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2006

Archons Of Elona [AoE]

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18 Feb 2007 at 05:03 - 12

A guildie and my self made a Tank and a Monk lvl 1 newb Island. 7hours 43 mins later we beat shiro. All we did is primary quests. It helped alot that we had beaten the game with 4 other chars first. We new what to do. We are going to do it again soon and i am going to try to frap it and put whole thing on you tube.

Peace
Draccor
Archons Of Elona AoE

Coloneh

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2006

D/W

18 Feb 2007 at 06:08 - 13

that kinda reminds me of quake done quick. except instead of skill it requires memory.

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

18 Feb 2007 at 06:14 - 14

when i first got this game, i finished it with protector of tyria in 10 days. that included doing all the quests I could find in the game.

obastable

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/

18 Feb 2007 at 09:13 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deleet

Without running it would take too long time, but if you don't record it, you can just do /age. It would take ages if you're restricted to hencies though.

Prophesies - All missions & bonuses, from Pre to Hells, in less than 24 hours. 2 players (alternating classes along the way) and 1 idle client. Doable, done it quite a few times (and boy did it pay well).

Factions - Faster than Prophecies with the exception of required Faction to proceed.. if the person has that Faction already then it's bloody fast.

Haven't tried "running" NF yet.

I'm sure with the addition of Heros the first 2 runs would go much faster than they used to.

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

18 Feb 2007 at 09:13 - 16

a couple of people in my old guild used to do something similar to this. although they weren't running the entire game. they were just pvp'ers, so they'd make a character and rush through the game to ascension, (back when ascension was instant lvl 20) and go buy 20 skills, and do it again.
they just did it for the unlocks at first, but it quickly became a race of how to do it fastest. ad how many lowbies you could take in a group to complete the various desert missions without sacrificing too much time.

this can all be done faster now, as people have made and perfected better running builds, skills have been changed, and people generally understand the game better.
the running there just consisted of a warrior or a ranger with sprint/charge/stormchaser/whatever, mending, selfheals, condition/hex removal

Sqorgar

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2007

18 Feb 2007 at 10:48 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warmaster Patton

Discussion: Run'd is not a word, ran is.

Technically, "speed run" is an informal name. You don't conjugate verbs that appear in names. However, speed run'd is not exactly proper anyway, being a noun, not a verb. A better way would've been to say "Has anyone completed a speed run of Guild Wars"? But it is typically accepted in colloquial speech to make nouns into impromptu verbs, like "Last night, while we were Guild Wars-ing, Bill and I were playing the newest dungeon, when he totally Leeroy'd me. Then I went tool shed on his butt."

Before you grammar nazi someone, be sure to take colloquial norms into account.

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

18 Feb 2007 at 11:31 - 18

Anyone can get run through the game. That's not a speedrun.

No outside help--at all, whether it be runners, people for quests/missions, nothing. Just AI.

No using storage--at least, to get things from other characters. Fresh, isolated start.

That's about as fair as I can imagine it. I bet it could still be done in a very short amount of time.

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

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18 Feb 2007 at 12:26 - 19

Half Life 2 speedrun is h4x.

pipedream

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

NJ, USA

Blazin Over New Ground

W/Mo

18 Feb 2007 at 14:42 - 20

Its a little dumb... the video anyway. That person missed all the skills. I use to speed though pre-searing the same exact way as the video for only one reason. To make a storage player to get to the Guild Hall. There is no other reason to do it unless you want to be short changed of alot of skills.

seut

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Europa

18 Feb 2007 at 15:48 - 21

no speedrun for gw on http://speeddemosarchive.com/

Yunas Ele

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

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18 Feb 2007 at 17:16 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by pipedream

Its a little dumb... the video anyway. That person missed all the skills. I use to speed though pre-searing the same exact way as the video for only one reason. To make a storage player to get to the Guild Hall. There is no other reason to do it unless you want to be short changed of alot of skills.

You missed the point. The whole point IS to get through it as fast as possible. Sure you miss a few skills but thats a sacrifice you make to get a quicker time. Seriously, go watch like a ff7 speed run and are you going to say "omg he didn't get (insert item/materia/whatever here), how dumb is that video???"

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

18 Feb 2007 at 18:46 - 23

A guildmate and I tried this a few months back, and we (with henchmen) were able to run Prophecies from presearing to completion of Hell's Precipice in about 12 hours. I'm sure people could do it quicker, as we had to stop for smoke breaks, etal. We wound up deleting the characters right after we finished....too funny.

Maxiemonster

There is no spoon.

Join Date: Jun 2005

Netherlands

Mo/

18 Feb 2007 at 19:16 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coloneh

that kinda reminds me of quake done quick. except instead of skill it requires memory.

Yeah, using rockets every level just to get a couple of seconds off, or even skip several levels by jumping over something... Saw a movie of someone doing the whole game in 6 minutes or something, took me more like 6 days

Wretchman Drake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Charr Carvings and [BeeR]

18 Feb 2007 at 19:19 - 25

I beat Factions in less than 2 days with my Ranger. I took the Kurzick route as well. If I were to do it with someone (aka 2 live, 6 heroes) I could have done it in one day probably.

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

18 Feb 2007 at 20:23 - 26

The thing that makes the speed runs I've watched from other games is the lack of items they acquire to get the job done. Were you to speed run in Guild Wars, you'll still be max level by the end of it, probably have a max damage weapon (even with junk mods), some max armour, and at least a few skills to do your job. If people have boasted about beating the game with nothing on their skill bars and a team full of henchmen I don't think this challenge would be quite as interesting.

Lord Natural

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada

Black Crescent [BC]

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18 Feb 2007 at 21:28 - 27

I enjoy watching a good speed run, but a Guild Wars run would just be too long and tedious. For a level 20 to run straight from Ascalon to THK is a slow process. I'd do this (before the AI was ruined that is) with my warrior and though I didn't time myself, I would estimate that it took somewhere close to 45 mins.

Now a true speed run would have to be independant, which would mean starting off at pre-, and using your own means to advance through the game (i.e no help from a runner). Skipping missions and taking shortcuts is fine, but even so you'd have to fight/run from Ascalon to THK. The problem here is, the henchmen at Beacon's aren't up to the task of fighting you to Grenth's or Rankor. So you'd need to have to try run yourself through Lornar's sub-level 20, with non-max armor and a handful of skills. Since this isn't a realistic option, the alternative is to fight to sanctum, through the desert, and so on. Just too many hours to even call it a speed run.

You could probably make a video demonstrating how long it takes to start from Ascalon and finish the game by using a level 20. Run from Ascalon to THK, hench/hero 4 missions and you're done. A few hours work, but it wouldn't really be a true speed run.

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

18 Feb 2007 at 23:35 - 28

I recall sometime last year, a player either here on GWG or another forum documenting their "round the world" tour in X number of hours.

They laid down the rules (from pre to Hell's, all missions with bonus), took screen shots of each accomplishment to prove it. It was quite epic and a lot of fun!

Brother Andicus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Scotland

The Illuminati

19 Feb 2007 at 00:26 - 29

Someone did pre-searing to ascended lvl 20 in 5hrs Xmins a long while back. Been doing a few searches and can't find it, but i'm sure someone will remember.

divinechancellor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

Limited Liability Company [LLC]

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19 Feb 2007 at 00:44 - 30

Does anyone know how big guild wars is? Like how many miles/square miles?

Deadly SiNs

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2007

England

Farmers Union [CASH]

W/Mo

05 Mar 2007 at 02:23 - 31

My friend made a R/Mo, and got to fire island in about 14 hours which is pretty impressive i thought :S

Lord-UWR

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Fiction We Live In [FaKe]

W/R

05 Mar 2007 at 04:05 - 32

how about this, get someone to run you from ascalon to THK, do the mission, then do last 3 missions, get infused somewhere, and thats it. Now that would take a total of 5 hours.

VinnyRidira

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2007

Ridirian Guides

W/Me

05 Mar 2007 at 06:33 - 33

Without the assistance of anybody, how fast to level 20 in Prophesy, Factions and Nightfall?

Patrick Smit

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

NiTe

05 Mar 2007 at 06:52 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by pipedream

Its a little dumb... the video anyway. That person missed all the skills. I use to speed though pre-searing the same exact way as the video for only one reason. To make a storage player to get to the Guild Hall. There is no other reason to do it unless you want to be short changed of alot of skills.

Well that's an awfull waste of time if that is so. You could just create a PvP character.

zwei2stein

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Europe

The German Order [GER]

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05 Mar 2007 at 09:47 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by pipedream

Its a little dumb... the video anyway. That person missed all the skills. I use to speed though pre-searing the same exact way as the video for only one reason. To make a storage player to get to the Guild Hall. There is no other reason to do it unless you want to be short changed of alot of skills.

Why would you speedrun char to postsear when you can just create perma pvp character and use it as mule - if you have GH with xunlai its way faster, abnd pvp character can enter Balthazar temple and make trades with people without sthuffling stuff...

Gustin

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2006

R/

05 Mar 2007 at 10:15 - 36

how about slowest time?

I've had my Necro since beta and he's still not on Fire Islands yet, rofl

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

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Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

05 Mar 2007 at 14:05 - 37

Hmm I think it took me about 48 hrs (not nonstop) to finish GW NF for the first time. Ofcourse it was an lvl 20 character from Tyria, but I can imagine that all missions still take about 30 mins to complete, plus all primary quests in between, so that would net to about 15-20 hrs minimum time it would take.

I am not going to watch a boring 15 hrs video of someone beating the game, so don't bother making it. Nobody will look at it.

Edit: Tyria is the easiest chapter to speedrun, my para got to lvl 20 in Elona, but even before he got to Vabbi, I decided to run himself (paragons are excellent runners) to Ascalon City and complete all missions from there. I finished every mission including bonus extremely fast (due to the fact I had 2 SF heroes). Never taking human players gave me the advantage of not having ppl screwing bonusses. For instance I could do Sanctum + bonus in the same try (get spirit stuck first and summon boat, kill Whites and get spirit unstuck and to shrine). Stuff like killing Glint is VERY easy with heroes set up the right way. I killed Mursaat while I was uninfused faster then they could spam Spectral Agony (plus having a Fast Casting (1/4 sec spells) healer monk to outheal SA). In THK I decided to team up with another human player (he was scared at first, cos I was a Para wielding a sword, but later he was very enthousiastic about it). He was an experienced player as well, and we were having a total of 4 SF eles in party, which could kill ANY group, no matter how big within 4 seconds flat. So we cut through the RoF missions and stuff like a white-hot knife through butter. I think that was my record, though I never recorded how much time it took. So far the Para has just entered Vabbi, so I could look at my total time spend on it, which isnt that much I think.

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

05 Mar 2007 at 14:10 - 38

I got 5 characters through Prophecies in 3 days and with all side quests completed, most Bonus's complete and all outposts visited. And thats without any runs or outside assistance, just me and the henchies.

Vipr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Warriors Of Fenrir

R/W

05 Mar 2007 at 16:43 - 39

Our guild , Warriors Of Fenrir [WoF] , did a run through in 12 or 24 hours cant remember, it was pre to level 20 and hells completed, was up on gameamp, i'd try and find it out but it was a good 6 months ago at least

dr1zz one

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

05 Mar 2007 at 19:54 - 40

With the addition of heros, the game can be played thru much quicker. I know I passed Nightfall in about 14 hours from the start of a new character. Im sure there are quicker times out there.

Pre-Heroes, it took me 4 days, about 20 hours, to beat Factions with henchies. This prolly can be done quicker with heroes and getting lucky with the other team being all henchies.

off-topic
I played Legend of Zelda and passed with 0 deaths in about 7 hours back in the days.
played Q3 Defrag a bit...I used to be ok with the circle strafe. Xaero was my bish.