Some way for your teammates to see your ping (Latency)

master_of_puppets

master_of_puppets

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

I dont like guilds...

Mo/E

A ping feature has been implemented somewhat recently but to the best of my knowledge there is no way you can see someone else's ping, yeah they can tell u but still. Recently I have been getting way more lag than usual and its very irritating. I think some kind of thing should be implemented so you can alert your teammates u are lagging without having to type/ say anything.

Maybe:
-you can ctrl+click the little circle and it would say "My current Ping is X"
-if you are getting lots of lag, so if ur circle is red a red circle pops up beside your name in the party list
-they can make a new window u can open and in it u can see everyones ping on ur team
something like that

NOTE: not in towns/outposts, only in explorable and combat areas

007 Error

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

[FFS]

Mo/

Excellent idea. I play my monk 95% of the time and nothing is more frustrating than being stuck in a lag-spike while your team gets mowed down. This is the kind of stuff they should be implementing instead of giving us mini-pets in outposts.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Edited the title slightly to try and preemptively stop the rush of people who can't read original posts before making one of their own and would inevitably fill this thread with "WTF THEY CAN ALREDY SEE WEN U PING LOL NUB" trash.

I love this idea. It'd be amazingly useful for just about everybody, with no real downsides except the whole spamming thing that might happen (though unlikely).

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

/signed signed signed and "Why isnt this in there already?"

Morgenstern

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

New Zealand

W/R

/signed, excellent idea!! Same reason as said before, nothing wrong that having your ded team raging you while your swearing at your modem.

Viruzzz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

it benefits the team greatly.
the only downside i can think of it people who are either stuck on lowspeed internet or just have horrible ping times for some other reason will be discriminated against when selecting party members

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Sending even more info from the server to your comp, back to the server, then to your teammates would only add more latency. Kinda defeats the purpose of it.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

In theory though, it wouldn't take up any more bandwidth than a manually written message of the same length, so I don't see how that'd really be a problem.

daraaksii

daraaksii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

I'm ctrl+clicking on the red circle all the time :P

/signed. And yes, why isn't this in the game already?:\

master_of_puppets

master_of_puppets

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

I dont like guilds...

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Viruzzz
it benefits the team greatly.
the only downside i can think of it people who are either stuck on lowspeed internet or just have horrible ping times for some other reason will be discriminated against when selecting party members
i guess it wouldnt show in outposts and such, only in explorable/fight areas

Antheus

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

If you're seriously lagging, the lag where not only your response is delayed, but you are unable to perform any action for 5-30 seconds, then pinging your lag would be delayed 5-30 seconds as well.

By the time anyone knew, it'd be too late.

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

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Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

As long as it only shows in combat areas, it's fine for me.

mqstout

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Pittsburgh

Absolutely not. It will then only become another feature used to discriminate during party-making.

master_of_puppets

master_of_puppets

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

I dont like guilds...

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by mqstout
Absolutely not. It will then only become another feature used to discriminate during party-making.
if you actually read you'd see it was determined this would not show in towns and outposts, only in explorable/combat areas. not to mention there is really one place where there is any real 'discrimination' and its perfectly valid.

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

E/

/signed

there are sometimes i lag like hell and others dont know it and it sucks... so yea

Stormlord Alex

Stormlord Alex

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Dec 2005

Beyond the Forest of Doom, past the Cavern of Agony... on Kitten & Puppy Island

Soul of Melandru [sOm]

W/E

/signed

How do I make my post at least 12 characters long I wonder?

I'm off to go ponder that particular problem...

gameshoes3003

gameshoes3003

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by master_of_puppets
if you actually read you'd see it was determined this would only show in towns and outposts. not to mention there is really one place where there is any real 'discrimination' and its perfectly valid.
Actually, if read your first post, if says nothing of the sort. Later, you say that. You should update your first post because not everybody has the time like me to read through every single post, especially if this were to be a long thread. So actually update before bashing....
But I would say no because there are people that have 56k because cable or dsl is not available to them so that's all they got. So this would instantly eliminate those players and not only that as Antheus said, if you're lagging, people will find out through your lack of movement and talking... Or they can just consider you afk and then leave you. Same results.
But this'll still cut out people that have orange pings (medium lag) and people will say forming a Non-Lagging group. Now, I generally have green or orange, but I have orange a lot because I don't have all of the internet to myself. I share with my family.
But all and all, this is going to really separate people with good/okay/bad pings. It's like in the Half-Life games, if you have a ping over 120, you're kicked! Whoopee! I personally hate that.
/notsigned

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

E/

well if it is not seen in towns and outposts not a problem. I HAVE 56K AND I SIGNED, really not a big deal.

gameshoes3003

gameshoes3003

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by tenshi_strife
well if it is not seen in towns and outposts not a problem. I HAVE 56K AND I SIGNED, really not a big deal.
But this guy is saying it'd be seen in towns/outposts.

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

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bleh either way, if they want to kick you then fine... probably noobs anyway. i have to deal with worst stuff... "GLF RANK 4 NUKER" "im rank 3 but i am quite skilled, i do gvg more" "NO R3, R4 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOB" .... so yes this is the least of my worries

Aeon_Xin

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by 007 Error
Excellent idea. I play my monk 95% of the time and nothing is more frustrating than being stuck in a lag-spike while your team gets mowed down. This is the kind of stuff they should be implementing instead of giving us mini-pets in outposts.

I'm with you on the mini pet thing, which I think might even be the result of a bit more lag than mentioned. That's a major issue with alot of the suggestions people post.


/sign with conditions.


The ctrl+ping click comes up in red or something, because even with armor and weapon sets, hit points and all that, if it's normal, people will fake it.
Not that I had any right doing so, but I was being ran somewhere and for kicks has my guy set up for 55(at lvl 17) an no one believed my 1 hit point, and it infuriated me.....

Also, It would have to be set up in a way so that it's only a notification that the player uses to notify his team.

I don't want to not be able to pug a mission because my ping is 150-300, which is good enough .....

What I'm getting at but lacking the words for is that I don't want to see leet discrimination based on ping rates. I've been booted from FPS rooms for pinging more than two digits, and would hate to see that become prevalent here.

Maybe you could set it up so that it's an automatic thing, and when your ping skyrockets it notifies the team. You set a limit in options and if it climbs above that, a notification is sent.

Player X's ping limit is 150, and his ping is currently 4,897.

This is by no means a final suggestion, just trying to refine the idea a bit, without adding discrimination.

tenshi_strife

tenshi_strife

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

in sardelac getting yelled at.

Angels of Strife[Aoc]

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that seems resonable to me... and worth while

Tarun

Tarun

Technician's Corner Moderator

Join Date: Jan 2006

The TARDIS

http://www.lunarsoft.net/ http://forums.lunarsoft.net/

/not signed - too many people would be left out, even if they had a brief lagspike due to a bad hop. This is just asking for more people to fight in game instead of play together as a team.

However! If there was an option that was enabled by default that said, "Do not show my ping to other players." then perhaps this could be added.

master_of_puppets

master_of_puppets

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

I dont like guilds...

Mo/E

please note that unlike in FPS rooms, in GW you cant kick people out of missions and combat areas

Mars Dragonblade

Mars Dragonblade

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2006

Awesometon.

Ministry of Fate [MoF]

W/

/Signed.

I'm off to help Stormlord work out how to make his post at least 12 characters long .

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

I didn't read the newest posts , but i read the start before , i remember someone saying that if you have to do something to let your party members know that your lagging, then that message will be lagged.

Suggestion : Just make it simple, put a small dot next to everyones name maybe in party window or whatever ( optional) so it just shows red green or orange.

Agyar

Agyar

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

AUSSIE TROLLING CREW - CAPSLOCK CONSULTANT

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How long would it be before PvP groups starting kicking or demanding vacation of players with 'sub-par' pings. I can imagine the requirements for joining a HA team quickly changing from 'LF rank 5+++ BoA sin' to 'LF rank 5+++ <200ms boA sin' or some such.

Australians (amongst others) already get the short end of the stick with higher-than-average pings, I'd hate to see something like this misused as a method of determining suitability for groups.

Of course this is quite a grim take but the first thing that came to mind. Perhaps, if the necessity here is just to indicate when a team member is experiencing a lag spike, to show some kind of indicator beside their name when their ping exceeds something substantial (1000ms perhaps?).