I LOVE the event - just the Chef’s feast is frustrating

bokken

bokken

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

I LOVE the event - just the Chef’s feast is frustrating- its a good idea in theory but not so good in actually pulling it off, just not eough people care to participate and gather the ingredients, ((at least in my experience))

Twice now I have been in a district where we did not have all the ingredients for the chefs.
The second time we were short only one final ingredient. SO we did not get the MIini Pig.

I farmed for all the ingredients but just could not get them all to drop. So I had 15 of the 22 needed ingredients. Now I only have 5 left.

Most of the people in the district were afk and of those actually there it seemed that only three or four of us actually had ingredients.

I tried to farm for all the ingredients but it just didn’t work.
I know, I know BOO HOO HOO the mini pig can be got other ways, but its just the disappointment of hanging in the district trying to organize who has which ingredients only to have most people not even try to participate that is frustrating.

This is why I say it is a great idea in theory but in practice it is not.
I do not happen to be part of a guild with many members so coordinating to have all the ingredients does not work for me.

I know it’s a small matter but wasting my hard fought for ingredients just leaves a bitter taste lol Ill get over it just wish there was a better way. Because now as the day goes on I have fewer ingredients to add. I assume it’s the same for others.

I guess this active participation in the feast was maybe an attempt to keep people from afking but they did anyway just to get the bags of loot.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

The event requires extensive teamwork among community...yeah, that never works.

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

It's a shame they didn't limit the ingredients to Shing Jea, or at least not require all of them (have the chef discover he already has the last one, in the final 30 seconds, for instance).

Maybe they should also have given the mini-pet to people who help complete a course, even if the district doesn't finish.

I do love the concept, though - it just needs to be balanced for a more relaxed pace in future.

Couple of things I've noticed:

The higher districts do better - presumably because the lower ones are pre-filled with AFKer's. The pigs I received were in the 40's and 50's. 10's and 20's did nothing for me.

It is very possible to district hop. You can judge before hand if your district is getting there - if it isn't, move! It's also still possible to claim prizes twice, with the higher districts often behind lower ones.

viper008

Banned

Join Date: May 2005

One thing that would've helped if Anet increased the drop rate on some of this stuff since some items are hard to get for some.

The Ernada

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2006

I agree. For those that actually made the effort to get the ingrediants, it was really frustrating to turn in the ingrediants only to have the district fail and get nothing.

I suggest next time that they change it so that anyone who turns in all the ingrediants to one dish automatically gets the reward. They can still make the event about community participation but my suggestion guarantees that people WILL participate and get rewarded.

Blackest Rose

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

With the op on this - now that people know that they can rely on others giving the ingredients and get the pig anyway - why bother?

Spend hours getting ingredients vs. afk in a dist...... hmmm.....

Anet could have thought this one through better and actually distingushed levels of participation.

1. afk in dist
2. giving an ingredient (1 token is pathetic)
3. giving ALL ingredients (special special prize)

This would have rewarded everyone appropriately.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

If your district has 4 minutes left, and still hasn't got everything ready, then you should hop to another district, since it is possible to finish the meal with 4 minutes left.

As I said in another thread, the things you need to acquire are just dumb. 5 of the items can only be found in the RoF, a place most people try to avoid. Furthermore, the things you have to kill for the ingredients are some of the most annoying things on the RoF, and in order to kill them you need a full party of heroes + henchmen, so you're lucky to get an ingredient to drop once per run.

Next time the ingredients need to be from places that are more easily accessible (like azure shadows) so that it's not such a grind if you want to get all the ingredients.

Lord Feathers

Lord Feathers

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2007

ROAR - Rangers of Ascalon Return

R/P

I had three of the feasts complete myself when I went to participate in the finale so that had to help but I was lucky enough to get into a district where people were working togeather. I would have liked to see people rewarded better for individual participation like completing a feast course but I think they managed a nice event. Getting a single token for my trouble was indeed disappointing but I did have a hell of a good time adventuring with some of the guildies scrounging for the items in the 1st place.

To some of the other comments I've read in here, your always going to have people that want to do zip and reap the rewards. Perhaps if a person doesn't give at least one item towards the event then don't give that person any special rewards regardless of how the community in that district did.

The drops in some of these areas was indeed very hard to acquire and I probably spent about 4 or 5 hours gaming to complete just three dishes. People that don't have that time to game wouldn't have a chance in hell to complete even one dish, so the community effort was indeed helpful but I still say don't reward your AFK or slackers if they did nothing.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

if anet/gaile, in their infinite wisdom, could have released a bit of info a bit earlier (such as, what the ingredients are for and how you turn them in), this event would have been a lot better

but their record for events is pretty bad

bokken

bokken

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
if anet/gaile, in their infinite wisdom, could have released a bit of info a bit earlier (such as, what the ingredients are for and how you turn them in), this event would have been a lot better

I agree - i guess i understand that they keep things secret so as to keep the surprize factor strong but it really leads to things being a pita. If we had a bit more CLUE like VitisVinifera said - things would go more smoothly.

Mr_T_bot

Mr_T_bot

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Even if the community was relatively tight nit, is would still be nigh impossible to gather together all the ingredients for everything in one district unless every person got every single ingredient for every single chef. This was poor planning and must have been based on the alpha community. I wish they would stop doing that kind of stuff.

reetkever

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/E

Or you could've got all the ingredients, and be treated like a hero for it by the entire district, like me ^^

I was sprinting to the cooks as everyone cheered and said go :P It was fun, and it was worth farming the ingredients. (Truffles and Smoking Remains were kinda hard, though)

Well I enjoyed my moment of fame, and my mini pig

If A-Net isn't clear about what to do with items, just get them anyway, cause something's gonna happen

SerenitySilverstar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by reetkever
I was sprinting to the cooks as everyone cheered and said go :P It was fun, and it was worth farming the ingredients.
Reet, I'm REALLY pleased to hear that. That's very sweet!!!

See, now THAT'S what it's all about

Firebaall

Firebaall

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

They should just rename the chef event to "Leecher's Paradise".

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

4 tries= 4 pigs
Districts in teens
started checking ingredients 1-1/2 hrs ahead.
Last check 1/2 hr before
Gave ingredients to other people to cut down on running.
After I gave my last requested ingredient, I went around checking for chefs who were still missing something and calling for help.

If a chef is missing something he gives you the ingredient donation window, otherwise he tells you the dish is completed.

bokken

bokken

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy
4 tries= 4 pigs
Districts in teens
started checking ingredients 1-1/2 hrs ahead.
Last check 1/2 hr before
.
I did do this.

Twice i spent quite some time talking with others - we tought we had a full set of ingredients. Unfortunatley twice people who said they had specific ingredients spent the event afk or just watching- I looked at their characters and one just stood not moving at all and the other clapped for the whole event. Either they missed the event or did not really have the ingredients in the first place.

I did finally manage to get into a district where people had and actually used their ingredients successfully.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

@bokken - I wasn't bragging or trying to minimize other peoples efforts. This entailed a lot of luck. I only had ingredients complete for one dish and a few for others. That other players in district cooperated with each other each time was amazing.

I'll keep trying until my ingredients run out and then start giving away the extra pigs to those less fortunate.

labsenpai

labsenpai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/E

I'll agree to the fact that the initial impression the Chefs gave, that you needed EVERY ingredient personally, was a bit of a fright.

The fact that the task fell to an entire district of players was a great relief. If there is one thing I have faith in its the farming ability of our community. I'm more ruffled by those that felt entitled to unique prizes or fiscal compensation for their time.

bokken

bokken

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy
@bokken - I wasn't bragging or trying to minimize other peoples efforts. This entailed a lot of luck. I only had ingredients complete for one dish and a few for others.
Darcy

I never thought you were being negative - i was just saying that I still had trouble even after trying hard to arrange for all the ingredients.



sigh,,.....Im sorry to say that it happened again - got into another dist and we were assured by one player for well over an hour that he and his alliance had all the ingredients but one - I had the one he was missing, plus others, so we all agreed that we were covered. 30 mintes to go he and his friends decided to leech off our dist and save their ingredients for a later event.....

I have to say that we pulled together and scrambled to get everything at the very last minute - 2 people even left with 10 minutes to go and quickly were able to get 2 missing ingredients.

Had a great time at the event - just, well you know..... but nothing in lfe worth doing is easy is it? lol


Have to say Celestial Pig Conga lines ftw!!

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

I had a great time getting all the ingredients.....didnt have them all each time (my hubby went farming for the smoking remains and finally got one after 5 attempts and by then I had used my unctuous remains up).
It was fun running from chef to chef.....I did this for 4 of 5 events....I was afk during one (almost feel asleep at the computer so I laid down and a few hours past but when I woke I had 16bags and a piggie ).....and the last 2 I was in a dist where a few were coordinating who had what and who didnt (some people took a chef each)..... I told people which things I was missing and others filled in-----then when that was over I gave the remaining stuff (minus a few for posterity sake) to someone else to use in the last remaining events.....hope they are put to good use.

I got a total of 5 pigs now....giving one to my hubby and his brother (my guildees)....so I m happy enough.....now I never did get one from the fortunes and I opened about 400+ of those (but made a ton of plat so not complaining tooo loudly).
I think it turned out ok, wish that there were soo many afk-ers but what can you do? its just a really really big pug!

Navaros

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Mo/Me

Having events requiring high level drops that cannot be easily gotten unless using a hardcore solo farming build (that most players won't know how to do) is clearly a bad idea.

All the previous events only required drops from easily soloable newbie areas. Not sure why this event broke with that tradition, but it was a bad idea in my view.

perfect

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
Having events requiring high level drops that cannot be easily gotten unless using a hardcore solo farming build (that most players won't know how to do) is clearly a bad idea.

All the previous events only required drops from easily soloable newbie areas. Not sure why this event broke with that tradition, but it was a bad idea in my view.
What tradition are you talking about? You still get a festival hat and goodie bags by sitting afk in the district all night. In fact, this event might have set a new precedence where you get even more by not going afk. No one if forcing you to farm anything and you get what you normally expect. Everyone who posts anything negative whining about it is a spoiled brat.

Artisan

Artisan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Sunset City

Ark Royal [ARK]

A/R

I got lucky, ended up in a pretty good district the third time around.

The first two tries, I kind of figured out what ingredients tended to be missing (people seem to like to get the easy ones and hope they end up in a district with a hardcore farmer), so I specifically went after the toughies for the three hours leading up to the 6 PM EST piggy appearance. So I showed up and was real clutch for my district with a Smoking Remains, a Guardian Moss, a Fiery Crest, and an Igneous Spider Leg (plus a Truffle, Icy Lode Stone, Dragon Root, Kraken Eye, Bonesnap Shell, and Half-Eaten Blob, most of which were also needed). We had it done by the 4 minute mark.

sixdartbart

sixdartbart

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Peace Machine GRRR [DiE]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by Navaros
All the previous events only required drops from easily soloable newbie areas. Not sure why this event broke with that tradition, but it was a bad idea in my view.
*Navaros' phone rings* It's his god saying I'm coming over for dinner.
*Navaros runs down to 7-11 and grabs nachos*
Yes I'm sure that will impress him enough to give you his blessing.
I hope he's not a wrathful god.

beanerman_99

beanerman_99

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the clouds

[Sage]

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jongo River
Couple of things I've noticed:

The higher districts do better - presumably because the lower ones are pre-filled with AFKer's. The pigs I received were in the 40's and 50's. 10's and 20's did nothing for me.

It is very possible to district hop. You can judge before hand if your district is getting there - if it isn't, move! It's also still possible to claim prizes twice, with the higher districts often behind lower ones.
I had this exact experience. I got my pig in dist 75! all the lower ones are full of AFKERs