Missing Mask -- Can you help?

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Hi,

I was visiting players in the game tonight during the 9:00 (PST) event and went to lead a celebratory Conga while my mask waited on the ground. By the time I got back, someone else had, mistakenly I'm sure, picked it up.

Could you please check your inventory and see if that you may have mistakenly picked up the mask? I was in ID#1 of Shing Jea Monastery. If you have the mask, I'd like it back. It is labeled as Gaile Gray Europe.

Thank you for any help that you can give me.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

I forsee a ransom.

"WTS GAILES GREY HAT 100k+ECTOZ!!"

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Gaile insisted it was an accident. However, the mentality of players in this game is pretty low standard, and they most likely took it after the 10 min wait period (I picked up her 16 gift bags and returned them to her) to make a profit by selling it. This is called being a SNEAKY LITTLE THIEF, and... you stole from the wrong person bub.

Mesmer in Need

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

I was there Gaile, I and i feel for you. I will make sure you get your mask, and the perpatrator will be punished. I will continue to check the auctions and ventraries sell for the "Gaile Gray Mask"

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Gaile insisted it was an accident. However, the mentality of players in this game is pretty low standard, and they most likely took it after the 10 min wait period (I picked up her 16 gift bags and returned them to her) to make a profit by selling it. This is called being a SNEAKY LITTLE THIEF, and... you stole from the wrong person bub.
I do very much appreciate your returning those red bags, Rahja. It's nice of you to show such consideration. I refuse to believe that someone would steal from me. I'm sure it's a mistake, and that someone, even tomorrow, will look in inventory and say "What the heck? Where did that come from" and PM me so I can get my mask. No questions asked, obviously.

xRustyx

xRustyx

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Bermuda Triangle

W/

Do not fear, Knight Rusty is here.

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

I'd craft ya one at the hat trader, but they are customized

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by xRustyx
Do not fear, Knight Rusty is here.
Well, Rusty, if you have any ideas, I'm all ears!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaern Majes
I'd craft ya one at the hat trader, but they are customized
Yes, exactly. My main girl has a mask. I was just hoping that my European girl, of whom I'm very fond, would also have one.

ryanryanryan0310

ryanryanryan0310

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Gailes mask a true collectors item of GW's.
Hope you find it Gaile....

Hou Lifu

Hou Lifu

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Modus Operandi [MO]

Have ANet generate you one, I say!

You can't tell me that in all of your guys' technobabble and awesome updatetry, you don't have a GuildWarsItemSpawnerobbulator.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
I do very much appreciate your returning those red bags, Rahja. It's nice of you to show such consideration. I refuse to believe that someone would steal from me. I'm sure it's a mistake, and that someone, even tomorrow, will look in inventory and say "What the heck? Where did that come from" and PM me so I can get my mask. No questions asked, obviously.
My pleasure Gaile, I always enjoy being in your company. But I think that you are being a bit too forgiving of human nature right now. People are always out for their own benefit. The INSTANT your mask was no longer bound to you as a drop, someone picked it up, I didn't think to watch who, assuming they would give it to you (again, a misjudgment in human nature). I picked up your bags by rapidly clicking on them, I tried to get all the items for you, but some people were faster then I as on the mask. Your known around about 80-90% of the community, and many people admire you Gaile. The simple truth is, and item "autographed" by you would sell for a large amount to a big Gaile Gray fan. This person did not accidentally stand near your hat, and then rapidly click to pick it up the second it was unbound. I saw this coming, which is why I broke from the Conga line in the first place, to try and get your stuff before self centered jerks did this type of thing. I should have clicked the mask, bags are easily had by other generous players, but the mask is customized, making its "Black Market" value very high to specific buyers. Hopefully, a true Gaile Gray fan would report the seller and get you back your mask though, instead of selfishly hording it. Hope the thief turns up for you Gaile. Sorry that some people are so selfish they ruin other people's events for their own gain. Hope to see you at the 12AM finale. Cheers Gaile.

jrk247

jrk247

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Twenty Gold For Mountain Troll [Tusk]

I was there when the mask went missing, and I am certain that it was a mistake. I just hope you get your mask Gaile. The only reason someone would keep the mask would be to sell it, so if that is the case it will pop up in a couple days on an auction of some sort.

snikerz

snikerz

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Rt/A

are you not able to use your admin powers and get it back?

or simply get a new one?

or go on another character, get a hat, then goto the hat crafter, learn the hat, then go back on gaile gray and make it again for 10g

after all its only a virtual item.

i'm sure theres many ways to go about this, personally i would just forget it and get a new one, if you heard all the stories that happened to me from people like that you would freak..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
My pleasure Gaile, I always enjoy being in your company.
lol no comment..

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hou Lifu
Have ANet generate you one, I say!

You can't tell me that in all of your guys' technobabble and awesome updatetry, you don't have a GuildWarsItemSpawnerobbulator.
They don't. It still makes me roll my eyes...

Reppije

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

IRC / Finland

Brotherhood of Life

E/Me

Good luck with finding it. I happened to be around too, and some people on that district was just stupid as hell about it.

Small Conga-line picture, just to remind about good stuff a bit.

EDIT:
Quote:
or go on another character, get a hat, then goto the hat crafter, learn the hat, then go back on gaile gray and make it again for 10g
It's on another account.

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Wouldn't Anet have logs off all the convosations/stuff being picked up in towns? I'm sure they do, maybe it'd show "<insert name here> picks up Lion Mask" maybe?

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

www.guildwarsguru.com/auction

If it pops up, try negotiating

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

It isn't the mask that Gaile is mad about I am pretty sure. It is the fact that she does a lot for the community as a whole and is very nice to everyone, and someone had the audacity to steal from her even after all that. The act is what makes it bad, not the missing item itself.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
www.guildwarsguru.com/auction

If it pops up, try negotiating
If anything does popup, forget negotiating, try BANNING. Stupid thieves...

Hockster

Hockster

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
www.guildwarsguru.com/auction

If it pops up, try negotiating
That club named permaban should be sufficient negotiating power.

Thy Demise

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2007

If You Build It They Will Run It[ekoc]

A/W

Here's a possible solution. You could either borrow my mask or another's and show it to the Festival Hat producer to create yourself a copy. The fact that it is customized to me doesn't matter anyway.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockster
That club named permaban should be sufficient negotiating power.
/agree. I hope does this moron not only get banned, but their account deleted and all of their characters hanged in Lions arch ID1 and then corpses burned after hanging.

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

Riiiiiight. Gaile would threaten a player with any kind of ban for nicking her mask. You know her so well.

Markaedw

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
/agree. I hope does this moron not only get banned, but their account deleted and all of their characters hanged in Lions arch ID1 and then corpses burned after hanging.
you play to much Oblivion

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
It isn't the mask that Gaile is mad about I am pretty sure. It is the fact that she does a lot for the community as a whole and is very nice to everyone, and someone had the audacity to steal from her even after all that. The act is what makes it bad, not the missing item itself.
This isn't about a mask.

Sidheyuna Aetheris

Sidheyuna Aetheris

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2007

On a mitten surrounded by water.

A New Build Is Available [SPAM]

N/

It's not about whether the mask can be replaced. It's about the mentality behind stealing from ANY player, not just an admin.

I'm keeping a post up about it in the Party Search window wherever I go. Of course, the effectiveness of this strategy is hindered by most people's lack of interest in using or checking that window....but I'm doing what I can.

Hope things get settled without too much of a fuss, and I'd like to wish everyone a Happy New Year!

PS...RETURN THE MASK BEFORE I HAVE TO CALL OUT THE WARTHOG ARMY I'VE GOT SAVED UP IN MY INVENTORY!!

Cheers.

StueyG

StueyG

Kamaspama

Join Date: Dec 2005

Nunya Bizness

pupu / SLAP

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Well, Rusty, if you have any ideas, I'm all ears!

Yes, exactly. My main girl has a mask. I was just hoping that my European girl, of whom I'm very fond, would also have one.

I was in ID1 a minute ago and someone was claiming to have the mask, but most likely was someone just spamming. Was someone named blue power ranger or such. Most likely someone just trying to brag though Hope it turns up!


By the way, how come it is set up so you cannot give someone else a mask and they can create one from a customized one? I know of people that did not get Factions and really want a mask.


Edit: Heh... there's a big thing going on in ID1 now with people trying to find your mask. Lots of people asking around and discussing it.

ryanryanryan0310

ryanryanryan0310

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
This isn't about a mask.
It's about not taking what doesn't belongs to you. Plus it's about respect your elders, although Gaile is younger than me. I am 26.......

trobinson97

trobinson97

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guildless :(

R/

I can't help but roll my eyes and pinch my nose at the level of brown nosing in this thread.

Quote:
My pleasure Gaile, I always enjoy being in your company. But I think that you are being a bit too forgiving of human nature right now. People are always out for their own benefit. The INSTANT your mask was no longer bound to you as a drop, someone picked it up, I didn't think to watch who, assuming they would give it to you (again, a misjudgment in human nature). I picked up your bags by rapidly clicking on them, I tried to get all the items for you, but some people were faster then I as on the mask. Your known around about 80-90% of the community, and many people admire you Gaile. The simple truth is, and item "autographed" by you would sell for a large amount to a big Gaile Gray fan. This person did not accidentally stand near your hat, and then rapidly click to pick it up the second it was unbound. I saw this coming, which is why I broke from the Conga line in the first place, to try and get your stuff before self centered jerks did this type of thing. I should have clicked the mask, bags are easily had by other generous players, but the mask is customized, making its "Black Market" value very high to specific buyers. Hopefully, a true Gaile Gray fan would report the seller and get you back your mask though, instead of selfishly hording it. Hope the thief turns up for you Gaile. Sorry that some people are so selfish they ruin other people's events for their own gain. Hope to see you at the 12AM finale. Cheers Gaile.
Oh my God, if I were playing a drinking game based on every time you said "Gaile", I'd have a nice buzz going right now.

If this thread was made by anyone else, well almost anyone, this would be a flamefest full of people telling them how noob they are and and how it's there own fault for not paying attention or whatever. They'd be told that there is nothing that could be done for them and to submit a support ticket at plaync and hope for the best. So Gaile, Anet's support page is located at here. I realize it's a little cumbersome to navigate, but we all have to deal with it. Chances are however that they will just refer you back to here or some other unofficial site. So sorry about your luck.

Quote:
/agree. I hope does this moron not only get banned, but their account deleted and all of their characters hanged in Lions arch ID1 and then corpses burned after hanging.
.....

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

trobinson, what an appallingly unkind post. You do realize it's the weekend? That I was in the game on my own time? That the reason I didn't pick up the mask was that I was answering player questions and leading a conga, at their request? Had I been there to simply get my stuff, I'd be fine. I was distracted, and trying my best to make others happy.

Now, it's great to point at the victim and say "It's your fault," but in this case, I think you're accusations are rude, crude, and socially unacceptable, given the context.

holababe

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

Mo/

Ok, someone did the morally wrong thing by stealing it but I can't believe you are suggesting banning them. If this was anyone else you'd have said:

Quote:
Why didn't you pick it up before the assignation wore off???
That said, I'm really sorry it went missing and I'd hope to see it returned soon.

EDIT: My post got sniped, I'd just like to clarify - I THINK IT WAS THE WRONG THING TO DO.

Gaile can easily get another one, because the event isn't over yet, so the issue is that it was the wrong thing to do.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
trobinson, what an appallingly unkind post. You do realize it's the weekend? That I was in the game on my own time? That the reason I didn't pick up the mask was that I was answering player questions and leading a conga, at their request? Had I been there to simply get my stuff, I'd be fine. I was distracted, and trying my best to make others happy.

Now, it's great to point at the victim and say "It's your fault," but in this case, I think you're accusations are rude, crude, and socially unacceptable, given the context.
Well, technically, you could have left a spot or two in your inventory open...

D4V3

D4V3

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2007

Burning Defenders of Virtue

P/

Sorry that this whole thing happened Gaile. I hope you get one during the midnight one. By the way, this is Akara, I gave you the Mini Pig

Thom Bangalter

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

MO

E/Mo

wtb gaile's mask.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

"Give me the mask back or I'm going to ban you."

Get real. Gailes obviously not gonna ban someone for picking up a mask and not returning it. No offence to Gaile here, but who's fault was it that they had a full inventory? I'm not defending the person who took it, and I'm not saying they shouldn't give it back, but think if it was someone elses mask; would you guys be trying to help, or would you say too bad for you?

Thy Demise

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2007

If You Build It They Will Run It[ekoc]

A/W

[QUOTE=StueyG]I was in ID1 a minute ago and someone was claiming to have the mask, but most likely was someone just spamming. Was someone named blue power ranger or such. Most likely someone just trying to brag though Hope it turns up!

The Blue Poweranger is a guildie. He is rude but harmless. (abit thick in the head imo)
Well, hope that the culprit is found.

holababe

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Now, it's great to point at the victim and say "It's your fault," but in this case, I think you're accusations are rude, crude, and socially unacceptable, given the context.
I think his accusations are socially acceptable. They're slightly rude and crude (especially referring to the ANet support page) but the point he has is that if it was anyone but an ANet Staff Member, then we'd be flaming them.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by trobinson97
If this thread was made by anyone else, well almost anyone, this would be a flamefest full of people telling them how noob they are and and how it's there own fault for not paying attention or whatever.
Unfortunately, knowing the community as I do, I would have to agree with that, to a certain extent. However, the key difference here is that it's not just John Doe, it's an ArenaNet employee who spends a lot of time working with the community (though each individual member has different opinions about how well) on a regular basis. Now, if it was just an accident (I've personally ninja'd other people's drops on accident with some frantic ;+Space action when grabbing my own), then hopefully the person who wakes up with the mask will return it, rather than attempting to make a nice nest egg with the profits that could be reaped. If the taking of the mask was intentional, then it is a problem in that an item was taken by a community member from someone who dedicates a lot of her time to that community.

Sure, it's just a mask (and quite a funky one, at that), and there are plenty more where it came from, but when you take something away from someone who gives so much, it's just a new level of wrong.

Good luck with this whole fiasco, Gaile. I'm glad I don't have your job right now.

trobinson97

trobinson97

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Guildless :(

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
trobinson, what an appallingly unkind post. You do realize it's the weekend? That I was in the game on my own time? That the reason I didn't pick up the mask was that I was answering player questions and leading a conga, at their request? Had I been there to simply get my stuff, I'd be fine. I was distracted, and trying my best to make others happy.

Now, it's great to point at the victim and say "It's your fault," but in this case, I think you're accusations are rude, crude, and socially unacceptable, given the context.
Well, you can think whatever you like, just as I can. As you say, you were playing the game on your own time, not the company's. What that means to me is that you should have been prepared to get your stuff when it drops just like everyone else. If the item stops being designated for you, then its up for grabs by anyone. Sure, it may suck that you didn't get the mask (and almost lost your 16 red bags, lol) but it happens. Everyone else knows that when the pig comes, he's giving out items, so if they want their stuff, they make space for it, they don't stand around answering questions and running around in conga lines. Your fault, just chalk it up as a loss.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

So, uhh.... sorry to hear that happened. But yeah, you should've just made sure you had room in your inventory. How hard is that? I can understand the whole "too busy to..." blah, but really, just a little preparation can avoid potentially nasty situations like this. Don't be blaming the bear in the forest for tearing you up, blame yourself for carrying honey through a forest full of bears.



Now, if we could have a bear-free forest, I'm all for that.

holababe

holababe

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2006

Goon Squad [LLJK]

Mo/

This is spiralling downhill

If the person who has Gaile's hat is willing to sell it, I'll buy the damn thing just to make everyone happy.